The Boss.

[Cheapjack]

Have you ever had a work situation, where, a boss thinks you are best off in your present position, makes out they like you, but really they don't, and is just keeping you there out of spite?

Are bosses that whimsical, now? How much capriciousness is allowable in a boss? Are some jobs just purely for that purpose?

 

[Flashover]

Years ago I started in a plastic company as a machine operator. This was right out of university.

I had been promised this that and the other thing if I took the entry level position... Start here work your way up. Yeah RIGHT.

Three years into the job I asked when this that and the other thing would start to happen... The boss who hired me just shook his head and said "once an operator, always an operator."

Well I've been with my current gig for quite awhile. I'm part owner now to boot. Recently I had the satisfaction of picking over the remains of the first place... at an auction... when they closed down last spring. BUAHAHAHAHAHA


But back to the OP's question. Some bosses are good, some are bad. Remember, nothing ties you to a job. If you are unhappy... quietly look around and interview, then leave.

 

[Finn]

Three years into the job I asked when this that and the other thing would start to happen... The boss who hired me just shook his head and said "once an operator, always an operator."

Wow. that's bad.

 

[Joshua Howard]

Not much experience to boot on my part; but from what I've seen, there's three basic kinds of bosses, or as might be more correct sometimes, managers.

There are those who are there to lead people. They are the bad, petty ones with attitude problems and control issues.

There are those who are there to lead results (i.e. the company). If there are any good ones, they are the good ones.

Then there are masses of them who are there just because it is their job, and they are neither good or bad; but when it comes to people in a leadership role who hone the I-could-care-less mentality, don't count on them to go out of their way to help you chart your course.

A good boss shouldn't be interested in one person's whims. The real question for a good leader should be "how can I make this company, or this facility, or this situation, run best?" It shouldn't be "Do I like Joe, or do I want Joe to succeed, or do I want to help Joe's career, etc. etc."

The only sure fire way to get ahead is to prove that you are an asset which is most valuable at the top. That is an easy dream to chase, but a hard bargain to live up to. It is easy to desire a promotion... but being the best person in the room - especially if you are in the presence of other people who are just as motivated as you are - isn't easy.

 

[ares93]

^ i agree with the above poster. although i have only two years of work experience. (only part time because of school. but i've worked since i was 16.) but this is also what i've noticed. thing is, two years aint shit in the long run...

 

[Cheapjack]

My boss thinks I'm a romantic fool, and doesn't want me running the show. I don't want to run the show, I just want an office with a sign outside. You can get some very whimsical bosses, who have superior ruthlessness, and insight, which I acknowledge, but I've got to the stage of near begging, now,on their part; 'Please don't finish this project, I don't want it'.

 

[Mr Awe]

Have you ever had a work situation, where, a boss thinks you are best off in your present position, makes out they like you, but really they don't, and is just keeping you there out of spite?

Are bosses that whimsical, now? How much capriciousness is allowable in a boss? Are some jobs just purely for that purpose?

What this probably indicates is that the person in question has been promoted beyond their competence. There are probably reasons that they can't be demoted into their competence zone. They're also probably not screwing up bad enough to fire them.

So, the logical solution is to keep them exactly where they are. In this sense, the position is perfect for the person and the boss will want to keep them in it. This is not ideal but at least it prevents this employee from causing more damage to the organization. And, yes, there are some positions that are specifically for this.

Mr Awe

 

[Cheapjack]

I've got two projects in the works a the moment, and if anyone should get the credit for them, it should be me. It's very very difficult to get something finished, even sit down at 8.30, when the whole thing could get taken off you at 11.10. I feel as if I am a test case in seeing whether you can treat creative employees like this, whether or not it makes them more productive or whether they just give up. I've got another 300 plus ideas anyway.

Maybe in three years time, I'll be sat in an office, listening in on a conversation for ideas. I won't be, I'll be on a jet with an Apple laptop, thinking of my own and dropping in on my old haunts, to remind me of what it was like to be miserable and picked on.

To be absolutely honest, I guess some of those above, think I'm such a miserable worm, from such a dingy office, with such a pathetic life, that they're amazed I can think of anything at all. They enjoy watching me jump, when they slam my office door. But, they hover around my window, to see what I am up to.

 

[Scout101]

Ah, the "I'm smarter than all of them, someday I'll be super-successful, and THEN I'll show them" defense.

Seems like if you had all these great ideas, you'd probably be doing alright, have had success with some of them, and wouldn't have needed this thread...

 

[Cheapjack]

How many people do you have under you, I wonder?

As I said, my boss is making it difficult for me. Not impossible, but not far off.

Back to the future was on UK TV yesterday. What a deluded big head that George McFly was. Not.

You can wash my car for me.

 

[Finn]

^I'm sorry but even though I don't have all of the information, your story sounds somewhat delusional, with a sense of entitlement.

 

[Cheapjack]

There's loads of people like me, that's why I posted it. I'd keep on your toes if I were you, there might be someone after your job. Hopefully, for me, you won't be saying that next year.

 

[JarodRussell]

Cool, now it's a pattern.

 

[Finn]

There's loads of people like me

Indeed

. I'd keep on your toes if I were you, there might be someone after your job.

I'm a student

Hopefully, for me, you won't be saying that next year.

Huh?

Cheapjack, you might want to think about taking a vacation or a career change if you are for real.

 

[Flashover]

Cheapjack, sounds like you aren't a good fit for your current position. If I was you I'd start looking to get out now if you haven't already.

 

[Finn]

^I think he needs more than that, based on his remarks about my keeping on my toes and how many people works under Scout101

 

[Sparky]

Cheapjack, you might want to think about taking a vacation or a career change if you are for real.

I'm leaning more towards heavy medication or mental institution.

 

[Flashover]

On the other hand, instead of being an insane twat-tard he could simply be frustrated and angry... and just sounding off.

Then again I have been wrong before. I prefer to give him a chance to come back and explain his remarks.

 

[Sparky]

Then again I have been wrong before. I prefer to give him a chance to come back and explain his remarks.

More rope is always a good idea

 

[ares93]

Then again I have been wrong before. I prefer to give him a chance to come back and explain his remarks.

More rope is always a good idea

just don't hang yourself with it.

(sorry, thats a standard response for me)