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What makes a real Scientist?
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Phew! I was worried I had to turn back my "Guy who kinda does sciencey stuff" card! 
1. Have a crazy hair style or long hair in order to make people think you are cool when you really arent.
2. Have an insane look in your eyes
3. Mock the Bible because "science" has disproved it
4. Try to talk like Carl Sagan
5. Get excited about concepts and theories that nobody else cares about
6. Talk down to non-scientist about a subject you know alot about but can't prove either therefore making you no better than the uninformed.
2. Have an insane look in your eyes
3. Mock the Bible because "science" has disproved it
4. Try to talk like Carl Sagan
5. Get excited about concepts and theories that nobody else cares about
6. Talk down to non-scientist about a subject you know alot about but can't prove either therefore making you no better than the uninformed.
The question might be a confusing one, if so sorry.
My thought on this is:
A scientist is a person who not just smart or have a career in science. A scientist like Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawkins. What makes them scientist isn't that they accomplished, its that they have Imagination, they have dreams, and they are absolutely curious about anything, and that they don't let someone else tell them whats impossible, they experience it themselves and see if its Impossible to them.
That is my thought on what makes a scientist.
Still has that imagination, that isn't held back by scientific facts.
What drives them to explore is both science and they fact that they believe that saying the skies the limit, is actually setting a strict limit.
They don't let someone else dictate whats real or whats impossible to them.
My thought on this is:
A scientist is a person who not just smart or have a career in science. A scientist like Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawkins. What makes them scientist isn't that they accomplished, its that they have Imagination, they have dreams, and they are absolutely curious about anything, and that they don't let someone else tell them whats impossible, they experience it themselves and see if its Impossible to them.
That is my thought on what makes a scientist.
Still has that imagination, that isn't held back by scientific facts.
What drives them to explore is both science and they fact that they believe that saying the skies the limit, is actually setting a strict limit.
They don't let someone else dictate whats real or whats impossible to them.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like the exact opposite of a scientist--at least the parts about not being bound by "facts" and rules and whatnot. It's also unfair to characterize people who follow the scientific method as lacking in imagination.
Being able to think up fanciful bullshit does not make someone a scientist, nor should it. A scientist, at the core, investigates the workings of our universe in a systematic way. This doesn't necessitate a lack of imagination--rather, it requires it because one must often find clever or unusual ways to test a hypothesis or run an experiment.
You seem to think "scientific facts" are some kind of shackle or deterrent. All new science is built on research that came before it. While one needs a good understanding of how we got to where we are today, there is no need to "reinvent the wheel" and confirm every basic scientific assumption for yourself.
In the most basic sense, a scientist is anyone whose primary system of living involves the utilization of science; and so the question furthers itself, to more accutely be, What is Science?
Science is the realm of logical study; so in a certain sense, it is entirely correct to say that anyone who is a student of logic (rather than faith or presumption) in life is a scientist. Anyone who would rather understand than accept. Summarily, all curious, open minded people are scientists of sorts.
Science is the realm of logical study; so in a certain sense, it is entirely correct to say that anyone who is a student of logic (rather than faith or presumption) in life is a scientist. Anyone who would rather understand than accept. Summarily, all curious, open minded people are scientists of sorts.
Does anybody else watch Bones? In a recent episode they had a guest visitor who hosted a kids TV show. The "fun" bit at the end of the episode shows the start of the guest's show. They begin by reciting the "scientists' oath:"
<quote>We see big stars
Tiny atoms, too
Because that’s what scientists do
We get the facts
And say what’s true
Because that’s what scientists do
We use our minds
And praise what’s new
Because that is what scientists do</quote>
Bit flippant, but makes certain good points.
dJE
<quote>We see big stars
Tiny atoms, too
Because that’s what scientists do
We get the facts
And say what’s true
Because that’s what scientists do
We use our minds
And praise what’s new
Because that is what scientists do</quote>
Bit flippant, but makes certain good points.
dJE
Don't forget the black goggles.
My theory is that a scientist is a man in a white lab coat, with a basement lab full of half-finished inventions, accompanied by a comely young assistant who joins him on adventures when local authorities call on him to investigate things from another world or strange disruptions of the natural order.
I will now set out to prove this theory. Step One: Advertise for a comely young assistant on Craigslist.
I will now set out to prove this theory. Step One: Advertise for a comely young assistant on Craigslist.
I think is a scientist is someone who--in addition to knowing many facts and figures about their particular field of expertise--also has many questions, and has the ability to consider and accept plausible possibilities, including those they may not personally like...
But are they all science-ing as fast as they can?
I never said they couldn't have imagination. What I mean by that is that, they don't let the science trump the imagination.(40/60) I never said that scientific fact, meant scientific method, you want to put two and two go ahead.
Scientist have actually tested what was thought to be old science fact and proved it wrong, my point is that a scientist wouldn't be afraid to do that. Scientist today(the people in the white lab coats) are shackled by the fact that a lot of them let the impossible hold them back from even doing a small expirement(which would take the scientific method) to see if certain things that they are interested in(Ex. Warp Drive) are possible. I know what I write can be confusing, but I never meant that a scientist is someone who just throughs all science to crap and lives in lala land.
A science major stole his girlfriend in college.Pingfah said:
I don't think you have very clear what is to be a scientist. What you describe may be a dreamer, a nonconformist, maybe a visionary. Which is great, and a scientist could be like that in some regards. But that doesn't even come close to define what a scientist is, or does.
Lemme ask this, how many scientists have you met in real life?
lol wut?
I never asked what a scientist does. I did ask for opinions on what a single person thinks some qualities of a scientist might be.
Now I clarified my position above. That may clear up some further confusion.
Since we are editing:
I have apparently only meant real ones. I have meant 15 real scientist(not including teachers). My friends are also not just dumb rednecks, I have actual intellectuals. Just wish one of them was in this forum, he could give a lot of you a run for your money.
Now I clarified my position above. That may clear up some further confusion.
Since we are editing:
I have apparently only meant real ones. I have meant 15 real scientist(not including teachers). My friends are also not just dumb rednecks, I have actual intellectuals. Just wish one of them was in this forum, he could give a lot of you a run for your money.
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I think the problem is, in order to understand what a scientist is, you have to understand what a scientist does. And your attempts at distinguishing what a scientist does doesn't seem to be entirely based in reality. Scientists are not people unconstrained by other theories while the great mass of people doing "science" follow blindly. There are scientists who are theoretical and look to expand our theories and there are those who are practical and look to make use of the theories. But neither is constrained by the rules. After all, if the rules aren't accurate, it would be less than helpful to follow them.
