Full Circle as a new series?

[Lighthammer]

I've been reading A LOT recently over on Memory Beta a lot of whats been going on in Trek novels recently.

Merging with a more recent idea (See the Trek Anthology thread) why would the focus of the next series have to be on one crew and one ship?

A nice arched series that covers events across Star Fleet Command, Voyager, the Enterprise, DS9 and the Aventine could make for a great series leading into the 50th anniversary.

What do you guys think ?

 

[AviTrek]

I've been reading A LOT recently over on Memory Beta a lot of whats been going on in Trek novels recently.

Merging with a more recent idea (See the Trek Anthology thread) why would the focus of the next series have to be on one crew and one ship?

A nice arched series that covers events across Star Fleet Command, Voyager, the Enterprise, DS9 and the Aventine could make for a great series leading into the 50th anniversary.

What do you guys think ?

I think that for a series to succeed, the audience needs to find characters they like. If you are jumping over multiple different stories, then no character will get enough time. And what's worse, characters that people don't like will steal time from the characters people want to see. It'll be like heroes all over again.

Also, the more characters and sets, the more expensive the series gets. And the more expensive the show is, the higher the ratings needed to survive.

 

[BillJ]

A nice arched series that covers events across Star Fleet Command, Voyager, the Enterprise, DS9 and the Aventine could make for a great series leading into the 50th anniversary.

What do you guys think ?

You've just proposed the most expensive TV series ever. Plus you're including three character sets from series that the general public has already rejected.

 

[F. King Daniel]

A nice arched series that covers events across Star Fleet Command, Voyager, the Enterprise, DS9 and the Aventine could make for a great series leading into the 50th anniversary.

What do you guys think ?

You've just proposed the most expensive TV series ever. Plus you're including three character sets from series that the general public has already rejected.

"Rejected"? Forgotten, maybe but I'd hardly call TNG, DS9 and Voyager, which all went the full seven series' and finished, "rejected".

As for the OP, of you want the novel stories, read the novels. That's the medium they were designed for and that's the medium they work best in. I'd also suggest that, expense aside, those actors are too old to carry a new TV series. Look at Riker and Troi in "These Are the Voyages", then add five years.

I wouldn't mind seeing Captain Dax in action, though. A mature, all-buisness, ditz-free Nicole deBoer(with Destiny cover hair)? Awesome.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I agree with King Daniel that the previous series haven't been rejected or even forgotten. I think that we will see another series after JJ is finished with the films, this will be the second hiatus for the franchise and a chance to give it a rest while exploring a new reality at the same time. If the new movies continue to be successful then it's possible we could see an off shoot series based in this universe. For some reason I think we're done seeing the prime universe on television, that concluded sadly with "Nemesis".

 

[timelord1010]

If your going to do a anthology series maybe it should be animated. Then you wouldn't have the cost of building sets and you could hire the surviving actors to do the voices.
What I would like to see is Direct to DVD stories, then if something sells well it should continue and it wouldn't interfer with Trek movies since if you want to watch Trek on DVD you have to buy or rent it and you will not have the problem of too much Trek on TV and/or in theaters.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

A nice arched series that covers events across Star Fleet Command, Voyager, the Enterprise, DS9 and the Aventine could make for a great series leading into the 50th anniversary.

What do you guys think ?

You've just proposed the most expensive TV series ever. Plus you're including three character sets from series that the general public has already rejected.

Yep. Plus, look at space opera on TV. You can't! There isn't any! Okay maybe SG:U but that's terrible and its days are numbered.

Now why would any network, much less conservative CBS, want to launch a show in a dead genre? And if they did, why would they handicap what is already a very iffy proposition by saddling it with another dead genre (anthology)?

Or to turn it around: I'm a TV honcho. Convince me to greenlight this show. So far, you've given me nothing.

 

[Lighthammer]

I think you guys are being REALLY over critical in general here.

First off, when you're talking about set costs, you have to stand back and ask yourself why these are massive concerns in something like Voyager, DS9 or TNG when they are making ENTIRE Bridge or ship sets for one or two episodes.

CGI has also come a long ways to help things along in that area.

Beyond that, when you're talking about trying to bring something like Full Circle to life, everyone seems to be thinking about having every single actor from every single where you're probably going to want to focus on a few characters and do a little jumping around. I would actually go so far as to try to treat many of the characters are guest actors instead of main stays.

Take a look at how Full Circle evolves, there aren't too many extremely important characters that follow the series from start to finish. I mean heck, Picard retires over the course of the series.

When you start to talk about who are going to be main characters, obviously you have Chackote, Paris, Kim, Picard, Worf and Dax. People like Janeway, 7 of 9, Sisko dont have a big enough part in the grand scheme of things to do more then just be small, passing stories as guest stars.

 

[AviTrek]

I think you guys are being REALLY over critical in general here.

First off, when you're talking about set costs, you have to stand back and ask yourself why these are massive concerns in something like Voyager, DS9 or TNG when they are making ENTIRE Bridge or ship sets for one or two episodes.

CGI has also come a long ways to help things along in that area.

Beyond that, when you're talking about trying to bring something like Full Circle to life, everyone seems to be thinking about having every single actor from every single where you're probably going to want to focus on a few characters and do a little jumping around. I would actually go so far as to try to treat many of the characters are guest actors instead of main stays.

Take a look at how Full Circle evolves, there aren't too many extremely important characters that follow the series from start to finish. I mean heck, Picard retires over the course of the series.

When you start to talk about who are going to be main characters, obviously you have Chackote, Paris, Kim, Picard, Worf and Dax. People like Janeway, 7 of 9, Sisko dont have a big enough part in the grand scheme of things to do more then just be small, passing stories as guest stars.

You think they built a new bridge set for every ship in TNG? They were all redressed versions of 1701-A. Thats why all the federation ships were older than 1701-D, so they could reuse the movie sets.

Also, you've just named 6 characters as stars already. You're already into the ensemble cast range and the costs associated with it. Keep the main cast to 4 people, simplify the sets, and maybe you have a shot at keeping the budget under control.

 

[Clawhammer]

This is why I think a new series should be set on a way smaller ship. Maybe 4 or 5 persons as a main cast.

The ship should be a small (100-200 meters long) but comfortable scientific scout ship.

With a newly created "Trekno catapult device" that is based in the Alpha Quadrant it can be sent out to deep space missions in minutes (Delta quadrant and beyond.) It then can travel back to the Alpha quadrant in a couple of months by using the quantum slipstream drive. This would however still be called "warp" as the term is 100% Star Trek. (Scaled again from Warp 11 to....?)

This way we could put the ship and it's crew on "missions". Guest stars could be doing 1 or 2 episodes, acting as specialists for that specific mission etc. I believe starting out with a smaller show is far more effecient and cost effective and even more important: It's back to the basics of what Star Trek once was.

*I will edit this later, when I get home.

 

[timelord1010]

This is why I think a new series should be set on a way smaller ship. Maybe 4 or 5 persons as a main cast.

The ship should be a small (100-200 meters long) but comfortable scientific scout ship.

With a newly created "Trekno catapult device" that is based in the Alpha Quadrant it can be sent out to deep space missions in minutes (Delta quadrant and beyond.) It then can travel back to the Alpha quadrant in a couple of months by using the quantum slipstream drive. This would however still be called "warp" as the term is 100% Star Trek. (Scaled again from Warp 11 to....?)

This way we could put the ship and it's crew on "missions". Guest stars could be doing 1 or 2 episodes, acting as specialists for that specific mission etc. I believe starting out with a smaller show is far more effecient and cost effective and even more important: It's back to the basics of what Star Trek once was.

*I will edit this later, when I get home.

I think that is a good idea, I never liked the idea of the seven or more cast members being locked into their ranks for up to 7 years. After Best of Both Worlds starfleet needed Captains and Riker remains first officer for at least 10 years? With a smaller crew "guest actors" could be rotated in and out over shorter periods of time as either specialists or have them stay for most of a season and then promote them off the ship.

 

[BillJ]

When you start to talk about who are going to be main characters, obviously you have Chackote, Paris, Kim, Picard, Worf and Dax. People like Janeway, 7 of 9, Sisko dont have a big enough part in the grand scheme of things to do more then just be small, passing stories as guest stars.

I'm sorry, but any TV producer that pitches a show (costing roughly 2.5 to 3.5 million dollars an episode) with Chakotay, Paris and Kim as regulars is going to get laughed at.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

When you start to talk about who are going to be main characters, obviously you have Chackote, Paris, Kim, Picard, Worf and Dax. People like Janeway, 7 of 9, Sisko dont have a big enough part in the grand scheme of things to do more then just be small, passing stories as guest stars.

I'm sorry, but any TV producer that pitches a show (costing roughly 2.5 to 3.5 million dollars an episode) with Chakotay, Paris and Kim as regulars is going to get laughed at.

Exactly.

No one has answered my question: if space opera is a dead genre, why should any TV honcho take a chance on it? Just do another police procedural instead.

I do know one thing for sure: if and when it happens, a new Trek series will be pitched to people who think Chakotay is a new type of coffee at Starbucks. The suggestions in this thread are waaaay too inside baseball.

 

[BillJ]

No one has answered my question: if space opera is a dead genre, why should any TV honcho take a chance on it? Just do another police procedural instead.

It'll take someone with a huge love of space opera and alot of capital built up (green-lit multiple hits) to get Trek back on the air.

And it definitely won't resemble any Trek we've seen on the air for the last thirty years.

 

[BillJ]

When you start to talk about who are going to be main characters, obviously you have Chackote, Paris, Kim, Picard, Worf and Dax. People like Janeway, 7 of 9, Sisko dont have a big enough part in the grand scheme of things to do more then just be small, passing stories as guest stars.

I'm sorry, but any TV producer that pitches a show (costing roughly 2.5 to 3.5 million dollars an episode) with Chakotay, Paris and Kim as regulars is going to get laughed at.

Exactly.

No one has answered my question: if space opera is a dead genre, why should any TV honcho take a chance on it? Just do another police procedural instead.

I do know one thing for sure: if and when it happens, a new Trek series will be pitched to people who think Chakotay is a new type of coffee at Starbucks. The suggestions in this thread are waaaay too inside baseball.

I do believe that the next time we see Star Trek on TV it'll be either a live-action or animated reboot of the original series.

The success of AbramsTrek has guaranteed that Star Trek for the forseeable future will revolve around Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

The success of AbramsTrek has guaranteed that Star Trek for the forseeable future will revolve around Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

Honestly, I can't say I'm unhappy with that.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The success of AbramsTrek has guaranteed that Star Trek for the forseeable future will revolve around Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

I don't think it needs to be that narrowly defined, but an animated series might not be a bad idea either.

 

[dgguy2006]

Unfortunately, unless the success of the newest ST movie causes unabated ST riots, it is unlikely that we are going to see a new ST series in the foreseeable future.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

AMC just started a zombie show. I don't recall zombie riots being required for it to be made.

More likely, we'll get a Star Trek show when and if CBS suits decide it's a vital part of their overall strategy for 2011-12.