Being Erica - Season 3

[Owain Taggart]

Did you guys notice the title of the episode was "Being Adam"? They did that with Dr Tom last season too, but I'll grant that Dr Tom is a more important character to us. What they're doing wrong is they aren't hooking us gradually with Adam like they did with Kai last season. Kai was a little bit at a time and by the middle season when we find more out about him I was interested. Adam is a lot all at once, I guess because they have more in mind for him and need to accellerate it?

Maybe they're feeling that Erica alone has played itself out and they want to set up a stronger dynamic between her and Adam to play out the time travel story line, which is something that couldn't play out between Erica and Ethan for example. If so the problem is they haven't made us like Adam enough or be interested enough, but so far I like him OK, just not as interesting as Erica's adventures. Mostly because I'm not a violent criminal as much as I'm a neurotic loser.

Yeah, although with the Dr Tom episode, Erica was more directly involved in helping him with his daughter issue, we had already spent one season figuring out the mystery of Dr Tom, so we were a lot more invested into the character because of the way she'd become part of Erica's life. Sure, Adam did need an episode like this, but it could of been done better with more involvement from Erica.

I don't like Adam so much either, and so far, I don't think he's right for her. He doesn't really seem to be her type, what with his violent tendencies. I just can't picture them being together.

I kind of wish they'd get her to do some adventures with the others in the group so that we'd get to know some of these characters other than Adam. Just so they aren't two-dimensional.

By the way, was that woman he bought the book from at the end the same one he was married to in the alternate timeline?

I think you're right. That was kind of interesting and made me wonder if we'll see more of her.

 

[Guy Gardener]

He an't go back to her because they lost a child together and he can't blame her and she dosen't deserve to live with him blaming himself for somethign she can't understand.

Journeyman muddled with the conception of his child by just a few hours once and returned home to the present to discover that his girl was now a boy... or vice versus. It's been a while.

But he and the wife were arguing over which timeline was more real and which child they should murder by demolishing which established history.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Spoiler: 3x306: Bear Breasts

Wow, epic episode. Lots of hilarious moments. This and the Groundhog episode are the best of the season. Melted penis!

 

[intrinsical]

I miss this wild and crazy Erica

 

[intrinsical]

Btw, is it just me or does anyone else have issues with the way Doctor Tom is bringing Erica and Adam together instead of just letting them go with the flow?

 

[Owain Taggart]

Btw, is it just me or does anyone else have issues with the way Doctor Tom is bringing Erica and Adam together instead of just letting them go with the flow?

Yeah, the relationship seems rather forced. If this episode has shown though, it's that the writers know they're not compatible, and that it might or might not happen, and I like that they explored that. The conversation she has with Dr Tom at the end seems to indicate that maybe they're not going to pursue it much more. They've pretty much sent a clear message though, that they've thought about this ahead of time, which goes in line with what we were all thinking. So, who knows what will happen.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Are the groups dictated not by how useful they are to one another finding a good fit but just be contemporalariness(RESULT! I INVENTED A WORD!)? Does that mean that Doctor Tom only was purview over this point in history or (considering that his therapy with these people might go on for years and then then these people become doctors, if he and his students are only allowed to look after patients a few years either side of where they are now, Tom must have a point in time he's not allowed to practice past that he has to voyage back to continue accruing new patients?) that these are his patient s in this time locus and he has many other cluster during other years backward and forward of what Erica considers "now".?

It just seems odd to let them interact outside of groupm, but then if they weren't all fromt he same 'date" then they could start playing with the web of time when Tom isn't looking.

When the frack is Kai going to clockblock Adam?

 

[Owain Taggart]

Yeah, that's certainly what I thought in terms of the group. They're there because of the therapy, not because they could potentially be useful to each other. As for Dr Tom, I look at the time-travelling in this as being linear where he lives in the present. I don't think he's allowed to go back to get new patients. The only way he's able to appear and talk to Erica in her adventures is because he's a therapist, and that's what he's able to do as a therapist, not to mention the fact that he's more or less inserting himself into her past. Notice that we've never seen any of the other therapists in her past.

 

[intrinsical]

Actually, it seems more certain to me that Adam and Erica are meant to be together for the long haul. I think Cassidy's right in her assessment of Erica. Erica has been choosing weak men (Ethan and Kai) so that she can be in control of the relationship.

And if I'm right about Erica's future, she needs a strong partner to get through what's coming and Doctor Tom is helping Erica prepare for the future. This is almost the exact same plot used in The 4400, where the future people literally gave Tom Baldwin a wife, Alana, to be his rock in the on coming storm.

Spoiler: my predictions

Kai's going to sleep with Erica soon. Somehow, Adam finds out and beats the shit out of Kai. Jealous Adam eventually realizes he actually loves Erica.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Oh, and by the way Cassidy is the freaking Lost Girl!

How cool is that?

 

[Owain Taggart]

Actually, it seems more certain to me that Adam and Erica are meant to be together for the long haul. I think Cassidy's right in her assessment of Erica. Erica has been choosing weak men (Ethan and Kai) so that she can be in control of the relationship.

And if I'm right about Erica's future, she needs a strong partner to get through what's coming and Doctor Tom is helping Erica prepare for the future. This is almost the exact same plot used in The 4400, where the future people literally gave Tom Baldwin a wife, Alana, to be his rock in the on coming storm.

Spoiler: my predictions

Kai's going to sleep with Erica soon. Somehow, Adam finds out and beats the shit out of Kai. Jealous Adam eventually realizes he actually loves Erica.

If anything, I think it shows that anything can happen at this point. They've shown that he doesn't want a relationship with her, so it while you may be right that she needs a strong man, it probably won't be Adam. Or maybe he'll change his mind.

Spoiler: stuff

I kind of doubt that they'd go in that direction. While Adam might feel jealous, I think more than anything, Adam beating up Kai would repel her. It would only show that he still has violent tendencies and that she wouldn't want to be around him, which would undermine the point of the therapy. Why would she want to have any interest in a guy who could potentially be abusive to her?

 

[Guy Gardener]

making my way through moonlighting at the moment.

Bruce Willis is about the tell Cybil how he feels and then mark freaking Leroy Gibbs Harmon shows up as THE PERFECT MAN... Understanding and considerate, and doesn't get snipping or dicking or take any bait drawing him into being aggressive or an asshole. He treats Bruce like a decent human being even though he doesn't deserve it and he's trying to take his girl because he knows that he has walked into the middle of a very complex clusterfuck.

Mark Harmon was the Betterman.

Unfortunately Cybil wanted the worse man.

It's so refreshing to see the hero getting cockblocked by someone they can't hold a candle too.

Adam doesn't have to beat up kai, he just has to "outdecent" him.

First one to be an idiot usually loses.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Ohhh, good episode. The writers on this show are really good. The dialogue feels really natural.

Btw, is it me or does the writer of The Purple Room look a bit like a young Johnny Depp? He could play a younger Jack Sparrow lol.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I love Paula Brancati's outgoing, carefree, sexually charged character Jenny. I hope we see her again.

 

[intrinsical]

Hmm.. I guess how good an episode is really depends on how resonant the story is to our own lives. I heart Jenny and I'm happy to see her again, but this episode does very little for me.

On a side note Jenny is reminding me of Forrest Gump's girlfriend, Jenny. They've both lead such tragic lives, constantly making the wrong choices.

 

[Worf2DS9]

I enjoyed the episode as well, thanks in part to very little of Erica's new therapy group. I'd forgotten how meanish Julianne used to be until she unleashed her snarky side with Jenny. And I liked that scene at the end when Erica "broke up" with Jenny; Erin was really good there, you could almost feel her pain.

One thing though: What was that sequence with Erica & Jenny working at that farm? The phone distracted me at one point and I didn't see what that was all about. Was that a regret she'd gone back to? I notice Adam popped up briefly there too.

I also like this thing going on with Julianne and that one co-owner of Goblins. It'll be interesting to see where that's going, if anywhere.

Finally: Brent is evil!!

 

[Owain Taggart]

And I liked that scene at the end when Erica "broke up" with Jenny; Erin was really good there, you could almost feel her pain.

Yep, that's what I referred to in terms of writing. It was written very believably, and what it said is very true. Sometimes you have people that are just destructive and they'll be like a leach, and sometimes you just have to let go of them.

One thing though: What was that sequence with Erica & Jenny working at that farm? The phone distracted me at one point and I didn't see what that was all about. Was that a regret she'd gone back to? I notice Adam popped up briefly there too.

That was Black Creek Pioneer Village near Toronto, where Erica said they both worked at one summer. The idea was that she was supposed to help Jenny learn that she has to fix her own mistakes, that Erica wasn't going to be doing it for her.

I also like this thing going on with Julianne and that one co-owner of Goblins. It'll be interesting to see where that's going, if anywhere.

Yeah, it's quite an interesting dynamic. At first I thought maybe she was just referring to the discussion they had in the last episode, but you can see some chemistry there and that it might be going further than that.

Finally: Brent is evil!!

I think we all knew he was evil, trying to steal things all the time, but I liked how they did this. It was kind of sutble, but I'm just wondering where Jenny met him. That came out rather out of the blue.

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ Thanks. I thought it was Upper Canada Village.

And Jenny didn't seem all that destructive. I can imagine worse.

 

[intrinsical]

And Jenny didn't seem all that destructive. I can imagine worse.

That's my problem with this episode too. Its not as if Jenny is a drunkard or a drug addict who is constantly getting Erica into trouble. Besides, I see Judith as Erica's responsible and proper shoulder angel while Jenny is Erica's wild and sexy shoulder devil. And loosing Erica's devil makes Erica boring.

While I agree that things have to change between Erica and Jenny, I believe there are better solutions than totally breaking off their friendship. For one, I would have mothered Jenny with tips, advice and even warnings without directly helping Jenny by giving her a job.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Erica didn't break off a friendship, she merely admitted that there was no friendship.

The difference between a parasite and symbiont.