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An idea about the Master

I can't recall who it was, but someone came up with an interesting idea for a 'good' Master. Someone who truly believes that the ends justify the means. Someone who would help a tyrant crush a rebellion, knowing that ten years down the line aliens will try to invade, and the tyrant has a better chance of protecting his people than the democratically elected leaders would.
 
I'm still lamenting the fact that Derek Jacobi was the Master for all of 5 minutes. I just can't get past that - to me it was a shocking tease and an incredible waste of good talent..

Though for me (and I know I am probably in the minority here), those 5 minutes were better than the entirety of John Simm's stint as the Master...

Minority maybe but you are not alone. Now we are two. :vulcan:
 
I'm still lamenting the fact that Derek Jacobi was the Master for all of 5 minutes. I just can't get past that - to me it was a shocking tease and an incredible waste of good talent..

Though for me (and I know I am probably in the minority here), those 5 minutes were better than the entirety of John Simm's stint as the Master...

Minority maybe but you are not alone. Now we are two. :vulcan:

2 1/2, Simm grew on me in The End of Time!
 
3 & 1/2. I didn't hate Simm, but I would rather have gotten Jacobi...
 
I like Simm's Master but I think they ought to have kept Jacobi for a few episodes as The Master, rather than have him regenerate within minutes of realising who he is.

Despite the Master's apparent end in TEOT and its near-nobility (it wasn't quite a heroic sacrifice but it was moving), the character is an archetypal nemesis/ arch-villain and has to and will return one day. I agree that Cumberbatch is the fairly obvious counterpoint to Matt Smith, just as John Simm made a good reverse-coin to David Tennant.
 
Personally I'd counter Smiths old man in a young man's body with a Master who was a young man in an old man's body (if that remotely makes sense!)
 
My personal dream-actor Master-match-up preferences?

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Hartnell vs Ian McKellan


Troughton vs Derek Jacobi


Pertwee vs Delgado


Baker vs the Failed Incarnation


Davison vs Ainley


Baker vs Eddie Izzard


McCoy vs Alan Rickman


McGann vs Roberts


Eccleston vs James Nesbitt


Tennant vs Simm


Smith vs Crispin Glover

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Hey, not every Master has to twirl his mustache or flail around like The Joker, you know... ;)
 
Didn't Yana basically regenerate because his human mind couldn't take the time lord conscienceness that it was hiding? I would have liked to have seen Jacobi as the Master for at least the first part of the two part finale. We saw glimpses then of what we would be getting.
 
Jacobi's Master regenerated because he was shot by that alien lab assistant. To quote him -

"Killed by an insect! A girl! How... inappropriate."

ETA - Snap!
 
Love your list The. Though I think I could go my whole life without seeing Eric Robert's Master again.

Well if we can't have him as the Doctor, Benedict Cumberbatch would make an interesting Master for Matt Smith. Hes certainly got the cultured intensity down. Though I can't seem to find a clip anywhere of him behaving like a baddie.
 
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I dunno why I keep calling him Bernard!!! The first thing I thought to myself after I saw him in "Sherlock" was that he would make a great Master (and this was before I found out that he had auditioned for the Doctor), and I forgot that he got shot in the back.
 
Just saw 'Sherlock'. Yeah, he'd be a good Master, but I think that would be spreading him a little thin. The characters are similar in too many ways.

Trivia: Matt Smith auditioned for the Watson role, but his take was "too barmy".
 
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