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Remakes that are better than the originals?

The Ring. I prefer the American one over the Japanese one.
Oooh yeah - the US version seemed to hang together a lot better with one exception - the TV scene wsa just so much creepier in the Japanese version - I can't put my finger on why but it just is.

I agree about the TV part in the Japanese one. Maybe it's because the living room was smaller and not a big apartment like the guy in the US one had. And the lighting...the lighting for that scene in the Japanese one was more realistic.

The part in the US version just looks too CGI-ey. And the main reason it fails for me, is the close up of the girls face (ie. the moments that "kills" the victim) In the original the close up of Sadako is just disturbing, whereas the close up of Samara is just some little brat going "grrrr." It's slightly laughable. And she climbs out the TV way too fast in the US version, whereas its more creepily played out in the Japanese. And she's bigger too.

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Japanese version
US version
 
This one may be too new for most, but the recently released "Let Me In," I find, is superior to the 2008 Swedish version aka "Let the Right One In."

I watched the original last night having seen the American version (filmed here in New Mexico) and found many scenes to be overly plodding.

In many ways, the American version is a shot by shot reproduction, including the script, but the scenes are tighter and more intense, with a bit more backstory given to the lead character (the boy, not the girl)...
 
I think LET ME IN was strengthened by eliminating the subplots with the other apartment dwellers and keeping the focus on Owen and Abby.
 
As mentioned in one of the other threads, the 1985 version of Anne of Green Gables is the one that people think of when you mention the title, but it wasn't the first version. The first version was in 1919, with various other versions in 1934, 1956 and 1972. The one the estate considers canonical is the 1985 version, which spawned many sequels, a TV series and even a cartoon show.
 
I liked the new The Day the Earth Stood Still better than the original.

Keanu Reeves knocked the movie right out the park.

He should have gotten an Academy Award nomination....

(This is Joel's sarcasm).
 
I liked the new The Day the Earth Stood Still better than the original.

Keanu Reeves knocked the movie right out the park.

He should have gotten an Academy Award nomination....

(This is Joel's sarcasm).
For a second there you had me :guffaw:
 
While I wasn't a fan of the remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still, I can't say I'm very fond of the original either. I find it deathly dull and the socio-political message pretty obvious. It might have worked as an hour-long episode of The Outer Limits or The Twilight Zone but not as a feature film. I suppose, if forced to choose, I would watch the original before I would watch the remake again. (The nuclear elements of the original hang together better than the eco-guilt trip of the remake.) But still, I don't think the remake is such a travesty as others suggest because the original was never that good to begin with.

Sabrina. IMO, the only thing that the 1954 original really has going for it is Audrey Hepburn. She is truly a radiant screen presence. However, the rest of the film doesn't seem particularly well thought out and Hepburn has no chemistry with Humphrey Bogart. (Despite Hepburn's best efforts to seem in love with him, Bogart just looks uncomfortable, like he can't shake the idea that he's just way too old for her.) The 1995 remake puts things together much better. True, Julia Ormond is no Audrey Hepburn. However, the romance between Ormond & Harrison Ford develops much more naturally. Ford convey's his character's conflicted feelings in a much more relatable way. Plus, whereas William Holden didn't have much to do in the original other than be a 3rd wheel, Greg Kinnear gives the character a much more satisfying arc.
Amen. I've been saying this for years. If the behind-the-scenes gossip is to believe, Hepburn already had a strike against her in Bogie's book because he wanted Lauren Bacall to play Sabrina, and for whatever reason he hated Holden's guts.

I also felt that Hepburn's transformation from childish, pre-Paris Sabrina to more grown-up (if not older & wiser) post-Paris Sabrina was totally unconvincing. After Paris, Ormond's Sabrina not only has a new hairstyle and wardrobe, but her whole attitude changes as well.

To some degree, you have a point. However, Ormond strains my suspension of disbelief at the beginning when she tries to play young Sabrina at the beginning. I think she's supposed to be barely 18, yet Ormond was 30 at the time and certainly looks it. This works in her favor later in the film because the age difference between Ormond & Ford looks much more subdued than the May-December contrast between Hepburn & Bogart. However, at the beginning, the waifish, 25 year old Hepburn has no trouble playing a convincing teenager.

Another improvement in the remake is the removal of Sabrina's early suicide attempt. While Hepburn plays the scene beautifully with an extra helping of plucky naivete, it kinda feels out of place. You don't usually see comedic suicide attempts in breezy romantic comedies.

As for behind the scenes drama, from what I've heard, Bogart was pretty miserable for most of the shoot. He wasn't the 1st choice to play Linus Larabee. (Not that that's anything new for him. Most of his most famous roles were parts that were turned down by George Raft & Edward G. Robinson.) He thought William Holden was an insufferable pretty boy. He thought that the production crew at Paramount were a bunch of fey twits compared to the relatively macho atmosphere at Warner Bros.

I'm offended that the 2007 Halloween movie even exists. I've read that it supposedly takes away all the mystery and mystique from Michael Myers by explaining his childhood trauma in excruciating detail and that's appalling to me.

I've never quite understood that criticism. While the Myers family in the remake isn't exactly the most functional family you've ever met, I don't think anything we see on screen there can account for the startling evil that Michael perpetrates.
 
I think LET ME IN was strengthened by eliminating the subplots with the other apartment dwellers and keeping the focus on Owen and Abby.

I agree. I've been thinking about this more and more, but Let Me In is definitely helped by a tighter storyline which removes the extraneous subplots that really dragged the original down. For this reason and others (the remake is creepier, and the darker tone contrasts nicely with the innocence of Owen and Abby's relationship) I tend to think Let Me In is the stronger film, but of course that's probably blasphemous to some.

Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake is definitely flashier and loses some of the satirical elements of the original, but it moves at a much faster pace (helped by faster zombies, which was an interesting change) and for some reason I could resonate more with the characters of Snyder's remake than the original, which did have scenes of plodding nothingness. When Jake Weber's character is doomed, I really felt for him because I grew to like the character so much. That one line where he said his best job was being a father... that really touched me, and I really liked Sarah Polley's character and her dynamic with Weber's character. I couldn't really feel for any of the characters in the original.

I also prefer Christopher Nolan's remake of Insomnia, mostly because I find Al Pacino's Will Dormer a much more sympathetic character. In the original, there isn't much ambiguity over whether or not the main character actually intentionally killed his partner. However, by muddling the moral waters and leaving the partner's killer unknown, at least to Dormer, it makes for a much more multi-faceted and complex character that ultimately provided for a more interesting film.
 
I'm actually supposed to like my own nation's products, but True Lies is far more enjoyable than La Totale!

Nikita v the Assassin is trickier. I think the US version hangs together a bit better overall but the frisson between the two leads just wasn't there in that version. Must be something to do with the French ability to smoulder.
 
The one that leaps to mind is The Thomas Crown Affair. Pierce fit the part perfectly, the location shoots, quick pacing and Renee's performace (with and with cloths) was really good.

Q2
 
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Poseidon Adventure. The original with Gene Hackman was lame, with the sense of danger lacking and the awful "pom=pom" Christmas tree. The remake with Kurt Russell make it seem like they were in real danger.
 
As a John Carpenter fan, I am so happy to see his films both bashed and praised in this thread, yet not quite in contradiction to each other. That's one hell of a tricky balance, I think.
 
I don't hate Rob Zombie's Halloween movies like some do, but I think I prefer John Carpenter's version, which is archetypal when it comes to defining the slasher genre. I also liked Carpenter's thematic reasoning for Michael Myers: that he was the embodiment of evil and that sometimes evil cannot be explained. Nothing tops the opening sequence of the first movie with that classic POV shot. What it managed to capture in just a few minutes speaks leaps and bounds of what Carpenter was trying to do with the film, and what in my humble opinion Zombie just failed to understand.

I think Zombie just had a radically different interpretation of Michael Myers. Carpenter's was the silent boogeyman type, but Zombie's was this sympathetic, well-developed individual that lost a lot of the mystique and allure that made Carpenter's version so dangerous. Sometimes the fear of the unknown is frightening enough. I also just really could not connect to what Zombie was trying to do at all- his "white trash" family for Myers was just flat-out overblown and tacky, and where Carpenter went for minimalism and allegory, Zombie just completely ignored that in favor of unsubtle, blatant storytelling which just completely missed the point of Carpenter's original.

I have no problem with Zombie's Halloween movies- however I don't think they're true Michael Myers movies. I think their Zombie's unique interpretation of Carpenter's classic through his own filter, but I don't really buy them as Halloween movies. I sort of see them as revisionist tales that have similar ideas, characters and even storylines but radically different themes and completely different execution.
 
My additions:
The Thin Red Line
House On Haunted Hill
Casino Royale

I'd disagree with counting Casino Royale as a remake, though, unless you're counting the 1950s TV version with Barry Nelson. The 60s version only existed to spoof the whole Bond phenomenon; it just happened to use the original book as its source material, albeit VERY loosely.

Instead I'd call the 2006 version as the first proper adaptation of the book.
 
As everyone has said:
The Maltese Falcon
The Fly
The Thing
Ocean's 11
Nu BSG

My additions:
The Thin Red Line
House On Haunted Hill
Casino Royale

The odd opinion that'll get me lynched:
Get Carter

I wouldn't say the remake of Get Carter was better, but it certainly wasn't as bad as people make it out to be.
 
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