The distinction being one of genealogy I expect.. Still, thay hailed from France.
Death of the Doctor Spoilers
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That's like saying that the American colonists winning the War of Independance was a victory for the Native American Tribes.
She never met 5, he was in a different room. Dimenstions in Time is not canon.
Hartnell of course.
I'll have to watch again, but I do see to recall Sarah Jane being in Rasillon's room at the end, when alt-1, 2, 3, and 5 all meet up, and she's with the Brig and the others.
And since there is no such thing as "canon" in Doctor Who, your argument is invalid. It's the only time Six and the Brig teamed up on-screen, so it absolutely happened. If we're going to do away with things just because they're silly, why do we have The Mind Robber on dvd?
Yep, Sarah shook hands with Five, but she didn't seem to understand that he was The Doctor. Three said he would "explain later" to her as they left.
But, I think it's evident from School Reunion that Rassilon erased the events of The Five Doctors from the memories of all the past companions (and possibly the earlier Doctors, as well).
I also believe that the Paul McGann TV movie would be better enhanced if, when he's at the party with Grace and he's about to drop the H-H-Bomb on us, it instead swiftly cuts to "MEANWHILE, ACROSS THE OCEAN..." and we see the scene of the Brigadier and Sixth Doctor's encounter. Then, the moment that's done, we switch back to Paul, Grace, and the clock-scientist dude all laughing about some joke The Doctor told.
See? One piece brought in, the other cut out. Two birds with one stone and the universe smiles.
But, I think it's evident from School Reunion that Rassilon erased the events of The Five Doctors from the memories of all the past companions (and possibly the earlier Doctors, as well).
I also believe that the Paul McGann TV movie would be better enhanced if, when he's at the party with Grace and he's about to drop the H-H-Bomb on us, it instead swiftly cuts to "MEANWHILE, ACROSS THE OCEAN..." and we see the scene of the Brigadier and Sixth Doctor's encounter. Then, the moment that's done, we switch back to Paul, Grace, and the clock-scientist dude all laughing about some joke The Doctor told.
See? One piece brought in, the other cut out. Two birds with one stone and the universe smiles.
I think it was Moffat who said it best: Regeneration is nothing more than a plot device to deal with casting issues. Whenever the time comes, they can adapt or change the plot device to suit the needs of the show.
The hints I've seen are that any "revelations" about the regeneration limit will be in a single (and probably rather vague) throwaway line, so I don't expect anything earth shattering.
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the episode when it airs.
The hints I've seen are that any "revelations" about the regeneration limit will be in a single (and probably rather vague) throwaway line, so I don't expect anything earth shattering.
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the episode when it airs.
^ Well said and so am I.
Has anyone actually thought that the Timelords themselves actually suspened the regeneration limit in light of the Last Great Time War? They have been able to grant extra regenerations, why not just suspend the limit? Just think even though the Timelords were one of the 'higher' species, they still resurrected Timelords that were long since dead, The Master and Rassilon. There may have only been a finite number of Timelords to fight in the war as it's intensity grew and we've seen ow the Daleks are able to survive and have an endless supply of drones, even if they do keep creating Emperors and Supremes.
Assuming they were telling the truth when they told the Master that. Who's to say they weren't just BSing him?
^ Occam and his razor.
Yep.
Exidence?
1. The Doc has apparently burned through four regenerations in fewer than ten years (8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 10, 10 to 11). Perhaps a bit careless of him if he's only got a few left.
2. At one point, Martha describes the Master as "immortal". This suggests that she's aware that Time Lords can regenrate indefinitely.
Still, that would require Martha to be unaware that Time Lords can be killed for realsies by traditional, if thorough, means. Considering she said it in the context of explaining her massively implausible anti-Doctor gun, I wouldn't trust her 100%. Especially since she only found out about regeneration when they got back to Earth from the end of the Universe and she was asking what was up with Professor Yana's voice changing.
Still, doesn't mean that they couldn't or didn't remove the limit for the War. And they could still die, it'd just make it harder for the older or more careless members of their society.
Still, doesn't mean that they couldn't or didn't remove the limit for the War. And they could still die, it'd just make it harder for the older or more careless members of their society.
^The Doc first mentioned regeneration to Martha when he thought he was going to die in 42. Personally, I really loved that moment. It showed that he was genuinely scared because he was trying to warn her about his imminent pseudo-death. I don't remember him ever reaching that point in a crisis where it wasn't his final stand, save the cop-out-regen in Stolen Earth. 
Slight problem with your math ... There's at least 100 years between Waters of Mars and End of Time. As the Doctor steps out of the Tardis, he says so to Ood Sigma.
Additionally, we still have no idea just how much time passed in the episode "Rose." At the end, the Doctor flies off in the Tardis. Then, seconds later - from Rose's perspective - the Tardis reappears. While it's possible Nine took off and came right back, it's equally possible he went off and had hundreds of adventures with dozens of companions before deciding to come back for Rose. We already know he was around for JFK's assassination, the Titanic, and other events, thanks to the same episode.
Why? What's not simple about suggesting that the Time Lords were lying to the Master? Remember who actually TOLD the Master that. Borusa! And we all know how reliable he was...
^The Doc first mentioned regeneration to Martha when he thought he was going to die in 42. Personally, I really loved that moment. It showed that he was genuinely scared because he was trying to warn her about his imminent pseudo-death. I don't remember him ever reaching that point in a crisis where it wasn't his final stand, save the cop-out-regen in Stolen Earth.
It was actually one of the only things I really enjoyed in that episode. If only it had been used to sell a threat in a better story.
But, still, all he had the chance to say was that "something" happens if he's about to die. He didn't really described it... well, on screen, he didn't really describe it at all as a means of avoiding death, but either way, Martha's reaction in "Drums" indicated she didn't know about it.
It was 100 years for the rest of time, not the Doctor. He was still only 906 when he was speaking to Wilf later, and was 907 in Flesh and Stone.
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