Star Trek V Hangar Deck Set
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I can't believe nobody's actually mentioned this yet: The shuttlebay in STV was so small the shuttles couldn't even turn around in the bay. Massive design flaw, right there.
One Shuttlecraft placed on the black outlined circle can be turned around, but not two at once. Just look at these two links that illustrate that:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/_...ha/en/images/0/03/Enterprise-A_shuttlebay.jpg
http://www.utopiaplanitia.info/interiors/Original Files/1701ashuttlebay.jpg
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The shuttle bay seemed to me, to be about the same size as the far back part of the bay as seen in TMP. However, it seemed to have the back wall/doors and aditional access where the TMP bay was open to the cargo bay. It actually seemed to make a bit more sense this way, since a lost force field with the bay doors open could mean absolute disaster for the shuttle bay. Just the way I see it.
^I think the set is fine. I mean, if someone made a WW2 movie, and they had a scene depicting the hangar bay of the real USS Enterprise (CV-6), you wouldn't see people moaning over how the set wasn't 600'x100'. Then again, I think I'm in the minority in that I view things through the "think of it as a docu-drama of an actual event, rather than a live broadcast as it happens" way of taking one step back.
Easy peasy. They don't even need to build a set. Just pick one of the four WWII-era Essex-class carriers still in existence as museums and include some period aircraft. The USS Lexington in Corpus Christie, Tx already has them. She was used for "Pearl Harbor".
Come to think of it, a aircraft carrier hangar deck would be a good standin for a starship hangar bay. And there's two ships in Cali. USS Hornet (Essex-class) in Alameda and USS Midway in San Diego (Midway-class and slightly bigger).
The set still looks pretty cool in this photo. Except that they obviously didn't have enough dough to build the ceiling!
The miniature was used for the landing sequence early in the film, and also for the crash where the Galileo slams into the deck and slides down.
The shot with the barricade coming up was done full size on the stage. In the Making of Trek V book (written by Shatner's daughter) they talk about how that stage (Stage 5, I think) had a vault underneath with old Paramount furniture and props in it, so they couldn't use a crane to pull the shuttles along inside the set. The floor wouldn't hold the weight.
They resorted to using grips to push the full sized shuttle on wheels with sparklers shooting out of the sides. Some shots in the finished film shows this (during the crash sequence) and it does look pretty poor.
Stage 5 is not that big (it's where the Brady Bunch house set was) Stage 15 is a a lot longer and would have made for a larger set if they have could afforded it. They built the Genesis Planet there and the deflector dish for First Contact. I guess, like people have mentioned, the existence of the Coming to America set on that stage made a full build affordable.
Here's an interesting link I found. Two guys making a low budget film in the 90's happened upon the warehouse where the Trek sets are kept -- low and behold the full sizes shuttles -- fresh from Sha Ka Ree.
http://www.adamstarpictures.com/hollywood_films.htm
People complain that it's so small... 
If it were any bigger it wouldn't fit inside the ship. And then people would complain about that. LOL.
If it were any bigger it wouldn't fit inside the ship. And then people would complain about that. LOL.One of the Trek V shuttles was cut in half and became the mock up shuttle they used for most of TNG.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alba/9285772/
The other full sized one was left out to rot apparently. There's a photo of it in the STAR TREK ACTION book as they tried to use it as Data's scout ship for Insurrection but it had deteriorated too badly.
As for the other sets... they used walls from the Trek V brig set and the Jefferies tube in various episodes of TNG from season 3 on --
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s3/3x11/thehunted196.jpg
The bridge was recycled for Trek VI and Generations and some of the consoles and both turbolift alcoves were used in the 1701-E bridge. The bar from the Nimbus III set became the bar for Ten Forward.
The Klingon BOP walls and consoles built for Trek V turned up in practically every Klingon set from TNG on through Enterprise.
Oddly I don't think they ever used the cool observation lounge again... maybe because they had Ten Forward already.
You know, I rather liked the Observation lounge a lot. Was it a redress of Ten Forward?
Also, I never really minded the shuttlebay looked small. I just thought a better director might've been able to convince the eye through forced perspective that it was larger than it was.
Also, I never really minded the shuttlebay looked small. I just thought a better director might've been able to convince the eye through forced perspective that it was larger than it was.
The Trek V observation lounge was built just for that movie. After that, it was probably trashed. It had a cool "nautical club" feel to it I think. Ten Forward wasn't built until the hiatus between TNG's 1st and 2nd seasons.
For Trek VI, Ten Forward was redressed as the UFP President's office. Those set designers were clever, frugal guys...
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