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Lost from the beginning (NO SPOILERS)

Sun forgetting English is by far my least favorite story arc of the entire show. It just seemed completely unnecessary.
When I first saw it I thought it was some kind of clue and that it had something to do with her counterpart in the FSW and some sort of connection.

As for the rest of "The Package" it was alright. By far the best moment in the episode was the reveal that Des was The Package. I also enjoyed learning how much Widmore knew of Smokey--apparently Jacob kept the Others in the dark about exactly what he was. Smokey mentions the Coming War referenced back in "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham".

The rest of the episode just felt drawn out with a lot of uninteresting padding. It wouldn't hurt if they could streamline the execution of Smokey's Plan--there has been too much of seeing it come together in a laborious manner to the point that instead of a building excitement you just want to scream "Just get on with it!". And you probably know how I felt about the FSW since I have felt the same way about them all season--they are the least interesting part of the episode, they are boring, they are contrived, and are just an excuse for forced nostalgia by inserting old dead faces from past seasons etc etc. And more pointless callbacks with Room 23 from S3.

I never cared for Jin, Sun or Jin/Sun of the early years so seeing them back to their S1 selves didn't exactly excite me. I did however enjoy the quiet scene between Jack and Sun towards the end of the episode--now that was good.
 
^Well, this is also a priest that sells him into slavery. Seems to me, the guy is just an asshole.

Frankly, the matter of slavery worries me less than lack of absolution. The Catholic Church's position on the issue of slavery in the 19th century was at least ambiguous. Instead the work of a priest was to save as many souls as possible! :lol:

My theory was that if Richard had been afraid to go to hell, it would be easier for him to accept slavery. And then it would be easier for the priest to sell him.
 
Happily Ever After:

Desmond is back! That's good. The show has been seriously lacking in time-displaced Scotsmen as of late. The celebration of Desmond's return is marked by throwing him into a shack with a giant electromagnetic thingy. Whidmore is of the impressing that Desmond is immune to electromagnetism, and wants to test that theory.

The giant magnet would seem to have sent Desmond into the flash-sideways universe. He doesn't hold any memory of his real self, though. This Desmond is a successful businessman, and Whidmore's #2 guy. There is no Penny in his life. Now that's a damn tragedy. Desmond is sent by Whidmore to pick up one Charlie Pace and get him to a concert.

Now here's where things get interesting. Charlie seems to realize that something is wrong here. He claims that while he was on the plane dying, he saw the image of a woman and knew he was in love with her. It's obvious he's talking about Claire. Later, he drives Desmond's car into the water. As Desmond is trying to save Charlie in the car, there would appear to be some bleed-through from the other world. Desmond sees Charlie's death, and the words "Not Penny's Boat" on his hand. What the? When Desmond is put through an MRI after the crash, he sees images of Penny herself. Are the two worlds starting to merge? It's clearly no longer just an alternate universe if memories of his other life are flooding back. It couldn't just be that Desmond is displaced either, since Charlie was having flashes of his other life as well. I look forward to seeing what's going on.

Thing get a whole lot weirder when Desmond is forced to tell Whidmore's wife that there won't be a concert. Mrs. Whidmore turns out to be Eloise. She also displays some kind of higher consciousness about what's really going on here, and tells Desmond to butt out. He's then approached by Daniel, who is also suspicious of this world. He's a musician here, but has a notebook full of equations that he can't understand. He also leads Desmond to Penny. Finally when the two meet Desmond, having found his "constant," wakes up.

Desmond seems pretty agreeable now. He's willing to work with Charles. Did the magnet fry his brain, or has he had a serious revelation? Either way, his stint with Whidmore i short lived, as Sayid attacks Whidmore's people and leads Desmond away. Desmond is also very agreeable to this.

Finally we're back in the flash-sideways, where Desmond asks for the manifest of flight 815. He says he has something to show them. Wat's he going to do? Is he going to "wake up" the rest of the passengers as well? What is this world? It's nice to see some momentum building here, at least.
 
That episode is one of my absolute favorites. Desmond is so awesome and there are some very moving moments. I love Des' sigh of relief when Penny accepts his invitation to get coffee.
 
Oh, I didn't mention the flash sideways yet, because it's probably the weakest so far. Jin and Sun aren't married in this universe, but are still banging. They get in trouble with Keamy, who was actually being paid to bump them off. Jin gets captured, Sun gets shot, yadda, yadda. The flashes so far had at least given some character insight. This one really doesn't. It's a shame, since I like both Jin and Sun a great deal. Besides not being married, everything is pretty much the same for them.


I would disagree with this.

The Jin and Sun who got on Oceanic 815 and crashed on the island were married, but their relationship was in terrible shape.

This Jin and Sun were much happier together.
 
I found "Happily Ever After" highly highly highly overrated. I thought it was decidedly average.

With a series like LOST that tends to not really let a lot of their storylines get some breathing room before frantically jumping to another one I was astonished how this foray into a more leisurely episode wasted such an opportunity--instead we get one of the most labored series of scenes the show has ever done focusing on essentially just one storyline that absolutely bored me. This is no "Company Man"--a similiar single story episode from HEROES that was brilliant or even this season's one story focused "Ab Aeterno".

I never was a Charlie fan even though I loved "Greatest Hits" so all of his scenes with alt Desmond were plodding and totally uninvolving. I was tempted on several occasions to fast forward through them but I was afraid there might actually be something relevant but alas there wasn't. Instead we get annoying Charlie, crazy Charlie driving off into the marina, Desmond inside an MRI, Desmond running into Jack(we have to have a forced crossing of paths) and Desmond chasing after Charlie in a hospital gown--YAAAAWN.
I understood the story itself was necessary to get Desmond to come around to helping Widmore back in our universe but I think it could have been wrapped within a much more interesting story.

I love Eloise--she's like the LOST version of HEROES' Angela--but the alt Eloise scenes and her presence were a total waste. I was waiting all season for her to return but not in this way. Meh. I'm *still* not into the alternate flash stories--haven't been all season--and this was no different. I guess the writers think it's fun for me to see if I can see all the differences between the two worlds of the characters like Widmore offering this Desmond some of his liquor when he originally didn't or seeing old dead faces for a quick cameo is fun I would disagree. I thought it might be more interesting but it really wasn't--if you are going to dedicate one story to an episode make it interesting like Richard's a few episodes back. Alternate reality stories can be loads of fun but it all comes down to how they are executed and shockingly LOST has made them mundane and a chore.

I did like the idea though that Dan's theory that whatever happens happens and that in order to preserve our reality of how things always unfolded a secondary reality was created in the process or that's how I see it.

The best parts of the episode were at the very beginning and the very end but that really comprised so very little of the hour and overall I was pretty bored which is so odd since it's been 3 years since I've said that about an episode of LOST--the Jack flashback to his tattoo in season 3 and the Kate/Juliet episode also in season 3--every one since then up until this season was rock solid.
 
The one problem I had with the episode was Dominic Monahan (or however the hell you spell it). I'm a fan or both Charlie and the actor, but it seemed to me he wasn't playing Charlie, but speaking in the same low, focused, tones of his FLASH FORWARD character. I had a hard time seeing him as Charlie and not as that other character. And it's not because I'm a FLASH FORWARD fan and that's just how I saw him at that point, because I wasn't a FLASH FORWARD fan. I had only seen one of two episodes. I think Dom's head was in FLASH FORWARD at that point.

Incidentally, Sonya Walger reportedly had the same problem. Long before the episode aired, DARKUFO or someone reported that the director, to everyone's amuement, kept having to tell her she wasn't playing her FLASH FORWARD character and to stop speaking in an American accent.
 
I thought Sonya played Penny like she always had--granted she was just a brief cameo but still. And Charlie was in-character for me. Yeah both Simon and drugged up/S2 petulant Charlie are cut from the same annoying cloth but I never once thought "Simon" in any of his scenes. It did definitely bring back a definite S2 Charlie portrayal which went a long way to turn me off the character for good. S3 rehabilitated him to a degree.
 
Maybe I have the advantage of never having watched Flash Forward. He just seemed like Charlie to me. He was darker, but this was a Charlie that hadn't kicked drugs, and just had a near death experience to top it off.

Everybody Loves Hugo:

I see what they did there. :shifty:

This episode was...explosive. First Illana gets Arzt'd.:lol: Well, what a pointless character. It did make for some nice shock value, though. It also led to this rather great exchange:

Richard: I'm going to the Black Rock to get more dynamite. Otherwise she died for nothing.
Jack: Maybe she died to show us to keep the hell away from dynamite.

Hurley also gets a visit from Micheal, who tells him that he has to stop them all from making a terrible mistake. When they get to the Black Rock, Hurley ensures that it goes kaboom. Honestly, big ship full of explosives, I've kinda surprised it took this long for it to go sky high. It's also nice to see Hurley stepping up. By this point he's the closest thing they have to a leader any more. It's his idea to go to see Locke. I have a feeling it won't be all hugs and laughs when they get there, though. There's a second visit from Micheal, where we get an explanation for a mystery I had long forgotten about. The whispers on the island are the voices of the souls trapped there. Michael's soul is one of them, due to his crime. It's a fitting end for him. Also, Smocke throws Desmond down a well. They wouldn't kill him off so unceremoniously as that, though, so I'm sure he's alright.

The flash-sideways gets the ball rolling, it would seem. Hurley in this world has everything. Everything but love, that is. Enter Libby! :D She seems to know him from somewhere. After a bit of a pep talk from sideways-Desmond, Hurley decides to pursue her. When they go on a date, and kiss Hurley seems to "wake up." Is this what we're going to see now? Is Desmond going to go and wake each of them up one by one? What will happen once they're all woken up? I would assume that each of them must find a constant. For Desmond it was Penny, obviously, and for Hurley it was Libby. I'm anxious to see what it will be for the others. Lastly, Desmond runs Locke down with his car. Well, it's Desmond, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. I'm sure he only has Locke's best interests at heart. :lol:
 
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That'll be my alibi when I run over my ex.

Just kidding! I don't even have an ex. :)

My understanding is TPTB had larger plans for Illana, but they ran into a time-shortage. It's unfortunate but didn't particularly damage the series overall IMO. Besides, I like that the show's not afraid to remind us that sometimes people just die rather ingloriously (though explosively). Also another safety lesson in handling dynamite- which is to say, don't.

Liked seeing Michael again. Given his last act was one of the few times he did something right, and he sacrificed himself doing it, his fate kind of sucks. Kind of wonder why Smocke visited him right before the Kahana went boom, though.

Anytime Hurley goes beyond the role of Harmless Sidekick I'm happy. Plus, nice to see him and Libby finally get their picnic.
 
Another average episode in my opinion.

I liked seeing the entire cast in one place after all these years towards the end of the episode. Alt Des running over alt John certainly caught my attention. There was a really good scene between Jack/Hurley about why he came back.

Ilana's abrupt death--well I don't know what to think. Blink and you'll miss it. I have to believe that there is still more for her in the series like giving us more context to her flashback with Jacob in "The Incident".

One of the more interesting moments was seeing the well like the one from last season and "Locke" knocking Desmond down there. And I want to point out I was annoyed by how the survivors kept referring to Smokey as Locke even after they knew he wasn't Locke but something else. I thought it was an awful bit of disrespect to Locke in-story and sloppy writing from L/C in the real world.

That's about all I could muster up to say positively about this episode. The rest of it was a colossal disappointment.

I was never a big Libby fan so her returning did very little for me.

When it comes to epic sf/f the last thing that I'm interested in are feeble attempts at inserting romance. There were a thousand things more interesting than Worf/Troi on TNG, Worf/Jadzia on DS9, Ezri/Bashir on DS9, Isaac/Simone on Heroes, Trip/T'Pol on ENT etc. Same goes for most of LOST's affairs of the heart whether it be Kate/Jac, Kate/Sayer, Sawyer/Ana Lucia, Penny/Desmond or Libby/Hurley. I never cared one way or the other for Libby/Hurley--I could see what they were going for making them a sweet innocent couple but I was totally indifferent. So needless to say I was very tempted to pause those scenes and then fast forward to the good stuff.

Hurley is a character I prefer in small doses. With the exception of S1's phenomenal "Numbers" and S5's "The Lie"--one of the weaker S5 installments--all other Hurley-centered stories have been not very good--"Dave", "Everybody Hates Hurley", "Tricia Tanaka is Dead", his flash forward in S4's "The Beginning of the End". Hurley is exceedingly annoying and much like Heroes' Hiro is not the cute innocent goofball you are rooting for but just an aggravating nuissance to watch. He just goes around doing really stupid shit that makes you want to just throttle him i.e. the Black Rock explosion. And even more bewildering was Jack's decision to go along with Hurley's brilliant idea of going to see the smoke monster who had just slaughtered those at the Temple.

We finally learn what the whispers are but a huge letdown--one of the least interesting explanations out of the entire series run and certainly doesn't help when the writers have mostly pulled out very clever and satisfying explanations for all of their dozens and dozens of mysteries thus far. Maybe I'd feel differently had it not been a mystery that had been built up and drawn out for 5 years so I was expecting something a bit more inventive like the way the "what is the smoke monster" mystery was so expertly handled. I had always figured they were a Chorus of those who were the original inhabitants. Mike's cameo was yet another pointless cameo return just because this was the show's final season. And poor Bruce Davison was just wasted in a predictable bit of casting. Not impressed.

It was about here I was giving up on the show giving us a satisfying wrap-up. This episode was the epitome of going through the motions. L/C were on autopilot. Where is the focus on revisiting the mythology and wrapping that up rather than giving us all these back-and forth camp to camp crap and boring sideways stories.
 
"Feeble attempt" to "insert romance?" You're talking like love is something out of the ordinary realm of human experience that just doesn't happen to real people. Having Hurley in the middle of an emotional scene suddenly don a top hat and cane, kick his legs high in the air and sing, "Hello mah baby, hello mah honey..." That would be something "feebly inserted," tacked on. I don't quite see how an ordinary human experience that everyone can relate to is something "inserted" which shouldn't be there.

People do actually fall in love. It happens. For a series so character-centric, it would be very odd if they were to avoid a very important part of the human condition. If we're going to avoid romance, why not avoid other human emotions entirely just for the heck of it?

And you seem to be generalizing all romances on SF TV series as exactly the same. Hurley and Libby ain't Worf and Troi.
 
"Feeble attempt" to "insert romance?" You're talking like love is something out of the ordinary realm of human experience that just doesn't happen to real people.
I have no problem with a drama tackling romance--*if* done well and I find myself invested in both individuals and their relationship.

It has just been my experience that most sf shows don't do it well whether the examples I mentioned or the horrible nBSG love rectangle that monopolized a good portion of S3 of that show. Granted there have been a few that really worked like Riker/Troi on TNG, Roslin/Adama on nBSG, Scully/Mulder on The X-Files. I just have thought the overwhelming number have failed more often than not.

I'm sure there are plenty of Kate/Sawyer fans or Jack/Kate fans or Libby/Hurley fans just as there are plenty of Trip/T'Pol fans as evidenced by the shipper wars from ENT. Doesn't mean *I* have to find them involving. I was never all that crazy about S2 of LOST owing a small part to the inclusion of characters like Libby. I also thought the innocent crush Hurley had on her to be a wasteful thread that year so seeing it revisited here struck me as totally unnecessary. It made the parallels with S2 and S6 all that more glaring--back when the writers focused on the wrong stuff.
People do actually fall in love. It happens. For a series so character-centric, it would be very odd if they were to avoid a very important part of the human condition.
Like I said I have no issue if the topic of love is tackled. It just needs to be handled well and I have to care about it. I loved the Juliet/Sawer relationship--expertly handled. I loved that one to pieces and thought it was a highlight for the series. Both actors sold the idea of this love as well as the writers developing it well which is something I can't say for Libby/Hurley.
Hurley and Libby ain't Worf and Troi.
You're right. I enjoyed the latter more.
 
I havn't stopped. Don't worry. :lol:

I've just been busy these past few days. I'll have some time to watch another for sure once I get home from work tonight, don't worry.
 
You're putting work over watching (and more importantly, reviewing) Lost?

Wow...I think I need to sit down...(faints)
 
Madness? THIS IS The Last Recruit:

It seems to me that there's really only so long you can move the pieces into place until you have to make an attack. We've kinda reached that point. This episode is mostly just people moving. Don't get me wrong, there's some good character moments. The conversation between Jack and Smocke is a good one. Jack's leap of faith out of the boat also shows just how much his character has changed. Then there's Jin and Sun finally, FINALLY reunited after almost two whole seasons apart. Wow. Has it really been that long since these two were together? That's awful. Oh, and look. I was right about what would trigger Sun regaining her English. Predictable, but I'll go with it. I still think it was a terrible idea to do it in the first place.

In the flash-sideways, there's more of people moving. Now they're all starting to come together in this universe as well. What is Desmond's purpose here, now? Is he some kind of temporal agent, making sure that things go the way that they're supposed to? He's kinda become the flash-sideways Abbadon, in getting people to where they need to be. Hmmmm, Desmond Hume: Temporal Agent sounds like another awesome spinoff to me.
 
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