All roads lead to Kate?
Did Picardo ever talk about Voyager?
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All roads lead to Kate?
You mean besides the fact the OP asked what Kate & Wang said over being disgruntled?
Thanks, exodus, for giving us more info on that.
I've often wondered what it was like for Ryan. She seems like a very nice person. I would feel horrible and embarrassed for coming on in the manner they brought her (though not her fault, of course). I get the notion that she was gracious to the others; is that right? She *could've* had the attitude of "Nyah nyah. I'm the star. I saved your show. You losers are lucky to have me." etc. She didn't, did she?
No... no, no, no
Ryan has been reported as being nothing but gracious, humble, and easy-going. Her persona comes off that way a lot even now. If you read her Twitter feed, you'll see she's very down-to-earth (there's no diva in her at all).
Ryan has been reported as being nothing but gracious, humble, and easy-going. Her persona comes off that way a lot even now. If you read her Twitter feed, you'll see she's very down-to-earth (there's no diva in her at all).
No, not at all.
As far as I know, Ryan is good friends with the rest of the cast and invites them to eat at her & her husbands restaurant when they can. Jeri is very humble and hasn't let her celeb. status go to her head. She's even very friendly still with the cast of "Shark", one of the shows she was in after Voyager that starred James Woods.
I swear, I think she acts more like a fanboy/girl than we do.
It seems like it sometimes!
But, who can blame her? Look at all the cool people she gets to hang around.
Felicia Day and Wil Wheaton fangirl/boy all the time.
Just goes to show how grounded they are. If you can still fangirl, then you still remember where you came from, I think.
But, who can blame her? Look at all the cool people she gets to hang around.
Felicia Day and Wil Wheaton fangirl/boy all the time.
Just goes to show how grounded they are. If you can still fangirl, then you still remember where you came from, I think.
Interesting point.
I say that because I remember telling a story at how she was star stuck at meeting Sting, as if she forgot she's been on nearly every magazine cover & on TV.
Frankly, I think she does. I get the impression that she doesn't consider herself a celeb in the least. It seems like she sees herself as a working mom/wife, which is cool because she is just that.
But, the things she posts are what a mom would post, you know?
I just don't think she looks at herself in the mirror and thinks, "I'm God's gift" like I think some actors in the biz do.
But, the things she posts are what a mom would post, you know?
I just don't think she looks at herself in the mirror and thinks, "I'm God's gift" like I think some actors in the biz do.
*cough*Russell Crowe*cough*
Actually, the biggest fanboy of the Voyager cast is Tim Russ.
I think he knows as much about Trek history & trivia as we do.
But, then again, people like Jennifer Lien prove just the opposite, and I've come across a few 'big names' that are stupid amounts of humble when you meet them face-to-face.
I think certain actors relish it and it feeds their ego.
Bill Shatner comes to mind immediately.
But, I think a lot of them treat it as a job they're blessed to have. Tom Hanks or Reba McEntire, for example
I think certain actors relish it and it feeds their ego.
Bill Shatner comes to mind immediately.
But, I think a lot of them treat it as a job they're blessed to have. Tom Hanks or Reba McEntire, for example
I wouldn't say ego but rather courage, to get up in front of any crowd of people and just speak let alone act.I think it takes a tremendous ego to go on the stage. In fact, I've often wondered who needs the bigger ego--actors or politicians?
I can't read the producers minds. They wanted to keep Chakotay and they didn't want to keep Kes for whatever reason, but the producers could have exercised an option to let Beltran go if they felt like it. In this case, they didn't.
Robert B. said he wanted them to kill him and let him go. But they didn`t. Than he asked them for more money. They gave him.
Why didn`t they let him go?
I think I know it. RB had and still has a big fanbase. When I begun to search for him in the net in 2005 I was wondering to find many fansites about him- more than about the other Voyager stars. Some of them are still online, some only available at webarchiv.
I know for sure that I`m not the only one who wouldn`t watch Voyager anymore without Chakotay/RB.
I tell you now his fan base is not as big as Kate's by simple virtue of time spent as an actor. I really don't think his leaving around season 4 or there after would have made that big of a difference. I find this especially true after he started talking about wanting to leave while the show was still running.
Online activity for celebs of that age group are not really good indicators of fan base size.
Online activity for celebs of that age group are not really good indicators of fan base size.
Yeah, I had a funny feeling that it might have to do with his leading man sex symbol status. Beltran does have a great smile, for a dude.
Hawthorne, I don't think it mattered that his fanbase wasn't as big as Mulgrews. What did matter was keeping the audience watching. I'm guessing his fanbase was big enough to warrant keeping him to spite his disgruntled behavior. Once again, it's why Hollywood still puts up with Russell Crowe.
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I laugh at the idea of Beltran having this enormous fan base.
Just because he wasn't great on Voyager, doesn't mean he doesn't have fans from every other film & project he's done. I have no issue with the man, I've met him and he was nothing but nice too me. He even took the time to talk about football(his favorite sport) with me. So I have no reason not to be a fan.
exodus and AdmHawthorne: that is both cool and refreshing to hear that about Jeri Ryan.
But I agree that some actors probably do have big egos. Others just have the "courage" needed to put themselves out in public and open themselves up to ridicule: it's almost impossible to win a libel or slander suit if you're a public figure. The burden is *very heavy* to show intentional malice and harm. I don't know about other nations. I've heard it's far different in the UK. IIRC, it's hard for *anyone* to win a libel or slander case.
Let me say this: there's *no way* I'd be willing to be a public figure on a TV show. Ok, maybe that's going too far: if I had to choose between appearing on TV and 100 babies getting tortured, I guess I would go on TV. But I'd never desire to.
And I'm sure many actors we see are really not very nice people in reality. But many regular people aren't nice, either. There's probably a greater number of TV stars who have big egos than the average population, but whether it's *caused* by celebrity or it *causes* people to seek celebrity, is unclear to me. That is, there's probably a correlation, but the direction of causality is unknown (to me, at least; perhaps sociologist know).
Finally, about Robert Beltran/Chakotay: I *really* wish he weren't so down on Trek and his VOY experience. He was always one of my favorite characters, in part because he didn't say a whole lot but was a (usually) stalwart supporter of Janeway and her enforcer, especially among the former Maquis. I thought he was a fine XO. Not so independent-minded as say Riker or Kira, which *was* a little odd considering he was a former * Maquis leader*. But it pained me when I first learned of his negativity towards VOY, Trek, and its fans. I still like Chakotay, though.
I wonder, though: was he or *any* of the VOY cast actually difficult to work with? The way Tim Russ describes things, it seemed like a big laugh fest (albeit with hard work). How could a show that has Russ, Picardo, Phillips, and even McNeill, Wang, and of course Jeri Ryan be tense? I know Kate Mulgrew *was* likely a little bit of a diva, but she *was* the star, and she seems rather charming. I'd think the rest of the ensemble would put up with most anything she did, much like how a pro sports team will give a lot of leeway to its star player. If you're the star, you can get away with that. Not if you're a bench-warmer, though.
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But I agree that some actors probably do have big egos. Others just have the "courage" needed to put themselves out in public and open themselves up to ridicule: it's almost impossible to win a libel or slander suit if you're a public figure. The burden is *very heavy* to show intentional malice and harm. I don't know about other nations. I've heard it's far different in the UK. IIRC, it's hard for *anyone* to win a libel or slander case.
Let me say this: there's *no way* I'd be willing to be a public figure on a TV show. Ok, maybe that's going too far: if I had to choose between appearing on TV and 100 babies getting tortured, I guess I would go on TV. But I'd never desire to.
And I'm sure many actors we see are really not very nice people in reality. But many regular people aren't nice, either. There's probably a greater number of TV stars who have big egos than the average population, but whether it's *caused* by celebrity or it *causes* people to seek celebrity, is unclear to me. That is, there's probably a correlation, but the direction of causality is unknown (to me, at least; perhaps sociologist know).
Finally, about Robert Beltran/Chakotay: I *really* wish he weren't so down on Trek and his VOY experience. He was always one of my favorite characters, in part because he didn't say a whole lot but was a (usually) stalwart supporter of Janeway and her enforcer, especially among the former Maquis. I thought he was a fine XO. Not so independent-minded as say Riker or Kira, which *was* a little odd considering he was a former * Maquis leader*. But it pained me when I first learned of his negativity towards VOY, Trek, and its fans. I still like Chakotay, though.
I wonder, though: was he or *any* of the VOY cast actually difficult to work with? The way Tim Russ describes things, it seemed like a big laugh fest (albeit with hard work). How could a show that has Russ, Picardo, Phillips, and even McNeill, Wang, and of course Jeri Ryan be tense? I know Kate Mulgrew *was* likely a little bit of a diva, but she *was* the star, and she seems rather charming. I'd think the rest of the ensemble would put up with most anything she did, much like how a pro sports team will give a lot of leeway to its star player. If you're the star, you can get away with that. Not if you're a bench-warmer, though.
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