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England; puplic elite schools

Well, our school exchange was with a public (or private?) school somewhere in Hartfordshire and I must admit I was a bit shocked by the whole hierarchy thing.
For some reason, my exchange partner was a grade below everyone else's and when we went to lunch where I was supposed to meet up with the others from my school, the girl at the entrance (she even had a sash) wouldn't let us in because it was lunch time for the higher grades. After much discussing I, at least, was let in but my exchange partner wasn't. The whole situation struck me as very silly and needlessly inflexible. I also have a strong aversion to school uniforms. It gives school a somewhat military character and maybe that's what the OP meant.
Of course, this is just my totally subjective impression and there are of course a lot of different public and private schools.

As far as I know, the OP is from Germany, and school's a lot more informal here (even at the private schools I went to), hence the shock, I suppose.
 
Uniforms are pretty much required at schools throughout the UK. Of course, some are more loosely adhered to than others but schools not requiring uniforms are rare.
 
Yes, I know that but it's exactly the opposite here and that's probably one of the reasons for my impression of the school.
 
My older kids attend a public school, and my dad very kindly pays their tuition fees as I can barely afford to pay for their uniforms and extra-curricular activities. It's a co-ed day school and my daughter and son both enjoy it. My kids were bright enough to pass the entrance exam (this school is Very Academic Indeed) and the local comprehensive school is crap, unfortunately. My proletariat daughter loves telling classmates that her dad works in a grocery store and her mom works in the most deprived area in town. :rommie: The shock can be enough to let the air out of the tires of the other parents' top-of-the-range Land Rovers.
 
school uniforms stop kids from getting into stupid fights about who's dressed as a emo, a skater, a chav, a punk, etc. or who has a posher frock than someone else.

of course, it won't stop kids picking on others cuz one's got £5 sneakers and the other's got £50 Nike Air Jordans or some shit like that. *cough*
 
If I get this correctly, the bad schools in America has the same name as the best ones in England? And run completly different, of course.
 
My older kids attend a public school, and my dad very kindly pays their tuition fees as I can barely afford to pay for their uniforms and extra-curricular activities. It's a co-ed day school and my daughter and son both enjoy it. My kids were bright enough to pass the entrance exam (this school is Very Academic Indeed) and the local comprehensive school is crap, unfortunately. My proletariat daughter loves telling classmates that her dad works in a grocery store and her mom works in the most deprived area in town. :rommie: The shock can be enough to let the air out of the tires of the other parents' top-of-the-range Land Rovers.

My son won a scholarship to a very good Southern UK public school. The educatation was terrific and the uniform was also so...
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(He's the one in the black!) :)

In the UK the difference between a private school is that it is privately funded ~ a public school is funded by the state etc...
 
Well, I'm actually going to a private school right now. Well, off for the summer, but anyway...

My family doesn't pay the fees directly, pretty much because 5 years ago, I aced the entrance exam, and got a good scholarship to go there.

The uniform and rules aren't really too bad, you get used to them, and in the latter case, find good ways of circumventing them, and there aren't really that many toffs at all. Well, I'll admit there are a few.

I'll only say it's got a smaller knit community than most schools, simply because it's small. Everyone really knows everyone, even the kids with the teachers, which provides a good working atmosphere.

I remember everyone was a lot stricter with you in the younger years. Up at pretty much the top of the school now, it's much more relaxed, and I can pretty much work in peace should I want to, or just spend out-of-lesson time socialising with my mates.
 
Heya,

Have to be quick.
What shocked me, is that the puplic schools, and yes I mean privat schools like Eton, seem to be very effecience when it comes to academic education, but they seem to steal away the very soul of the child... like the importance of just enjoying a slow walk in the beauty of nature or whatever. The day seems to be VERY full and busy, with nearly no time for oneself and nearly no privacy, like sleeping in a room with at least 12 other students, in the past the teacher said it were 60 in one room...and they have to go for one time a week to a military service, so they are already officers at the end of school and the whole day is very orginised, its one sex only, (Officer Training Corps) many are boy schools. He said its like a mixture of barracks (military), monastry and prison. And they first stopped beating children in 1999.
Well besides the monastry, but you maybe could put in "loyaltity to the staate" it seems the perfect fit for Cardassians. Dont you think?

TerokNor
 
Heya,

Have to be quick.
What shocked me, is that the puplic schools, and yes I mean privat schools like Eton, seem to be very effecience when it comes to academic education, but they seem to steal away the very soul of the child... like the importance of just enjoying a slow walk in the beauty of nature or whatever. The day seems to be VERY full and busy, with nearly no time for oneself and nearly no privacy, like sleeping in a room with at least 12 other students, in the past the teacher said it were 60 in one room...and they have to go for one time a week to a military service, so they are already officers at the end of school and the whole day is very orginised, its one sex only, (Officer Training Corps) many are boy schools. He said its like a mixture of barracks (military), monastry and prison. And they first stopped beating children in 1999.
Well besides the monastry, but you maybe could put in "loyaltity to the staate" it seems the perfect fit for Cardassians. Dont you think?

TerokNor

Erm, well i'm sorry to say your Teacher is talking complete and total bollocks. First stopped beating children in 1999? What planet is he on??

Many Public schools engage children on an intellectual and creative level that is far in advance of what many state schools have to offer. There are lots of good state schools too, but to claim that Public schools drive the individuality out of pupils is utter nonsense, and as somebody who went to one of the most academically successful of the lot I can tell you that was not my experience at all.

Perhaps your teacher went to one many years ago, when I have no doubt much of what he says was true, but these days? No, he's talking out of his rear end.
 
Heya,

Have to be quick.
What shocked me, is that the puplic schools, and yes I mean privat schools like Eton, seem to be very effecience when it comes to academic education, but they seem to steal away the very soul of the child... like the importance of just enjoying a slow walk in the beauty of nature or whatever. The day seems to be VERY full and busy, with nearly no time for oneself and nearly no privacy, like sleeping in a room with at least 12 other students, in the past the teacher said it were 60 in one room...and they have to go for one time a week to a military service, so they are already officers at the end of school and the whole day is very orginised, its one sex only, (Officer Training Corps) many are boy schools. He said its like a mixture of barracks (military), monastry and prison. And they first stopped beating children in 1999.
Well besides the monastry, but you maybe could put in "loyaltity to the staate" it seems the perfect fit for Cardassians. Dont you think?

TerokNor

Ok, lets take these things one at a time.

1. Full and busy? Not at all. The days are quite long, true, but half the time I have at least two hours in the day with nothing to do. I quite often enjoy a walk. It's the state schools where you can't do that, at least, not at school.
2. Sleeping. Ok, I don't board, so I have limited knowledge, but at most it's 3 or 4 to a room in the boarding houses. Maybe in the past, but not now.
3. Military service. My school does do this, but it's only compulsory for the middle years, optional after that, once a week, and it's about as relaxed as you get with military training. I've stopped now, for the record.
4. My school is co-ed, and to my knowledge, most private schools are co-ed now.
5. With regards to the beating: What was your teacher smoking?
6. Cardassians? My school certainly isn't.
 
Do they still have military schools in the USA?
Yes, we do. One of them is in the town I grew up in. Slightly funny story: My senior year in high school, myself and another guy started pole vaulting for the track team. Unfortunately, my school hadn't had any vaulters for many years, so we didn't have any facilities to practice. So after school each day, he and I strapped these 20 foot long poles to our cars and drove over to the military academy for practice (our coaches worked it out). He and I looked quite out of place with our mop hair amongst all the close-cropped and uniformed boys!
 
I can't speak for any others, but the one that was near me is male-only.
 
Pffft! I went to a Scottish state Academy. You can't get more proletarian than that, you posh bastard.

My education was so lacking when i left school at 16 that if you had asked me what a proletarian was, i would have said "somebody who has worked in a library for a long time".:eek::lol:
 
1. Full and busy? Not at all. The days are quite long, true, but half the time I have at least two hours in the day with nothing to do. I quite often enjoy a walk. It's the state schools where you can't do that, at least, not at school.

You know, we had long days as well but we made up for it with 3 month summer holidays, which is twice as long as state schools and an extra week at Easter & Christmas.

It was so cool finishing for the summer a clear month ahead of any of my out of school friends.
 
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