Crafting a shared DC "filmic" universe
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Actually, if The Avengers were to gross $400 million in the U.S., that would give Warner Bros. plenty of motivation to try a similar idea.
There's no reason for them to do so but their key people have given hints that this is the direction they eventually want to go in. It will be a slow and gradual progression towards a Justice League movie but I do think we will get one. As for Warner Bros having separation after Nolan is finished with his trilogy before using the character again in order to avoid 'offending' him...this statement doesn't make much sense business wise. Nolan has made them quite a chunk of cash and they trusted him enough to go ahead and make "Inception" and made him the "grandfather" of their much maligned "Superman" franchise. Just because he has stated in the past that he doesn't think HIS version of Batman would fit with the rest of DCU doesn't mean that he wouldn't endorse another version.
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Do you guys see Bale in a JL(shared universe) movie? I think too much time will pass and he won't be interested or it will go to the next actor in a Batman reboot.
I would love to see Bale(Batman), Routh or Welling(Superman), Reynolds(Green Lantern) and then whomever is to play Wonder Woman & The Flash. I know some of you hate Smallville but I would love to see Jensen Ackles as The Flash in this movie and Justin Hartley(Green Arrow).
[added] Welling.
I would love to see Bale(Batman), Routh or Welling(Superman), Reynolds(Green Lantern) and then whomever is to play Wonder Woman & The Flash. I know some of you hate Smallville but I would love to see Jensen Ackles as The Flash in this movie and Justin Hartley(Green Arrow).
[added] Welling.
^ Not sure what hating Smallville has to do with Jensen Ackles since he'd be playing a new role, just stay away from Welling as Superman, Hartley as Green Arrow, etc. There are going to be a lot of hurdles to overcome as it is, so no reason to add 10 years of garbage to it. 
You could make a Justice League that doesn't tie in to Nolan's Superman and Batman. Just connect all the other superhero movies (Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, etc.) and then have new actors playing Batman and Superman. Make them older actors than the Ryan Reynolds crop (Jim Caviezel as Superman? Billy Crudup as Batman?), whose characters have clearly been donning their costumes for quite a while and the younger superheroes know of them very well, and make them the leaders of the Justice League.
Edward Norton as Batman!
You could make a Justice League that doesn't tie in to Nolan's Superman and Batman. Just connect all the other superhero movies (Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, etc.) and then have new actors playing Batman and Superman. Make them older actors than the Ryan Reynolds crop (Jim Caviezel as Superman? Billy Crudup as Batman?), whose characters have clearly been donning their costumes for quite a while and the younger superheroes know of them very well, and make them the leaders of the Justice League.
Edward Norton as Batman!
^ The aborted JLA movie was planning to use different actors for Superman and Batman than the (then) incumbents, Bale and Routh. But they were planning to cast younger.
If they went down the line you suggest, I'd like to see Jon Hamm and David Boreanaz as Supes and Bats.
If they went down the line you suggest, I'd like to see Jon Hamm and David Boreanaz as Supes and Bats.
I thought that Nolan had expressed distaste for the idea of two versions of the Batman character existing simultaneously (his version and the version that was going to be in the George Miller JLA film), but it was actually Bale who had issues with it.
Maybe they should just do a Giffen-DeMatteis Justice League International movie. That way they could avoid the whole Superman/Batman issue (although Batman was one of the founding members of that particular team). And imagine the Oreo cross-promotions!
400 million? That's it? The Dark Knight was able to make 500 million in the US.
The JLA will be much more expensive to make than another Batman movie. The good thing about Batman is that he doesn't have powers, which keeps the costs down. Warners can keep cracking out the Batman movies over the next few years.
Everything rests on Batman.
Green Lantern and possibly Superman are part of a new era where it could be possible for Justice League movie.
Batman on the other hand still rests in Nolans hand's. A substantial amount of time has to pass before WB can bring in their Batman.
In the future Green Lantern and Superman will be long finished while Batman is gearing up for it's third reboot.
Basically no one will meet at the finish line. Green Lantern and Superman aren't going to wait 7 years after their movies are done for Batman.
Marvel did it right. They start with Iron man then follow with Hulk
Green Lantern and possibly Superman are part of a new era where it could be possible for Justice League movie.
Batman on the other hand still rests in Nolans hand's. A substantial amount of time has to pass before WB can bring in their Batman.
In the future Green Lantern and Superman will be long finished while Batman is gearing up for it's third reboot.
Basically no one will meet at the finish line. Green Lantern and Superman aren't going to wait 7 years after their movies are done for Batman.
Marvel did it right. They start with Iron man then follow with Hulk
I know. I lowered the bar because I don't think superhero movies will ever again top the box office of The Dark Knight.
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I hope the next series of Batman movies include Robin...Movie 1 Dick Grayson, Movie 2 Jason Todd & Movie 3 Tim Drake. That is wishful thinking.
Does it? Would a JLA movie absolutely require Batman to be in it? Heck, we're getting a unified Marvel movieverse that includes the Avengers and the Hulk but excludes major figures like Spidey, the FF, the X-Men, and Daredevil. True, having Batman be absent from the JL would be kind of like having Iron Man absent from the Avengers. But movies don't absolutely have to duplicate their source material exactly.
Batman works well as a grounded, realistic film series. To be honest, he's a little out of place as a member of the Justice League, this team of colorful, superpowered aliens and Amazons and galactic cops and what-have-you who battle cosmic threats. Indeed, I've always had a hard time believing you could drag Batman away from Gotham long enough to have him play a major role in the JL.
So I'd be satisfied with a JL film franchise that didn't include Batman. You could cross over Nolan's Superman with Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash, Hawkman, and Martian Manhunter. Maybe have Hawkman, the tough Thanagarian cop, play a Batman-like role in the character dynamic, clashing with Superman and forming a grudging friendship. (The version of Hawkman played by Michael Shanks in Smallville is a good example of that possibility.) Alternatively, you could have Ted Kord/Blue Beetle fill Batman's shoes. He's a very similar hero type, a non-powered rich guy relying on gadgetry (and of course Nite Owl II in Watchmen is a pastiche of both Batman and Blue Beetle simultaneously). Although he's not as dark a character, so it wouldn't be the same dynamic.
I mean, really, let's face it -- in a comic book series, you have room to serve each hero effectively, but in a 2-hour movie, if you've got Superman and Batman in the room, everyone else is going to get kind of shoved to the side. So excluding the 800-pound Bat-gorilla from the film franchise might be the best way to serve the rest of the characters.
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Or just bring in Green Arrow instead of Batman...works on Smallville.
Or just bring in Green Arrow instead of Batman...works on Smallville.
I'd be cool with that. I like the Green Arrow. Make him look less Robin Hood and I don't think the average filmgoer would have a problem with him. Though by the time he shows up, they'll probably consider him a ripoff of The Avengers' Hawkeye.
Personally I wouldn't go for it. No Batman is like an Apple pie without the apple.
But I'm sure a Justice league movie with Superman,Green Lantern, Flash and Wonder Woman with maybe Huntress is probably the best possibility.
Flash- Hey where's pointy ears?
Green Lantern- he's busy
Woman- Never was a team player
But I'm sure a Justice league movie with Superman,Green Lantern, Flash and Wonder Woman with maybe Huntress is probably the best possibility.
Flash- Hey where's pointy ears?
Green Lantern- he's busy
Woman- Never was a team player
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Jetfire
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If the movie had Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, The Flash & Green Arrow...you wouldn't go see it?
If the movie had Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, The Flash & Green Arrow...you wouldn't go see it?
I'll see it if it ultimately has to end up like that, but i'll just stay quiet.
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I don't think Batman would be the deal breaker...Superman would be...at-least for me.
I'll go you one further. How about a Justice League without Batman OR Superman? Especially if you let Wonder Woman fly, that's a plenty high-powered team right there. With Superman, there's always the invincibility problem, not to mention the dilution of concept damage to the character itself.
As for Batman, he obviously doesn't belong, imo. TPTB stick him in because they can, regardless of whether they should.
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