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A Sequel Series to Deep Space Nine

The obvious assumption in that scenario is that the unseen enemy will be scary and cool up until the point they make an appearance, whereupon they will be revealed to be a boring, lame ripoff of something else, most likely the Borg or maybe those guys from the Alien movies, and everyone will yawn and change the channel.

Prove I'm wrong.

The problem with your ripoff mention is that just about all possible variations of bad guys have been done in ALL the sci fi series. Any new bad guy will be a mixture of previously seen ones.

We've already had cybernetic bad guys, other dimensional bad guys, nanite bad guys, replicant bad guys, warrior bad guys, secretative and cunning bad guys, shapeshifting bad guys. The list goes on, chances are you've seen it already.

If you have a bad guy that feeds on humans it's a ripoff of the Wraith.

If you have a bad guy that shapeshifts it's a ripoff of the Founders.

If you have a bad guy that's genetically engineered and grown it's a ripoff of the Jem'Hadar.

If you have a bad guy made from nanites it's a ripoff of the Replicators.

If you have a bad guy that can take over your body it's a ripoff of the Goa'uld.

If you have a bad guy from another dimension it's a ripoff of the sphere builders or the Orii in stargate.

If you have a bad guy that's cybernetic it's a ripoff of the Borg.

Any other possible variation of bad guy has either been done somewhere along the line or becomes completely lame simply because it's not good and the reason it's not good is because you've tried to make it something that hasn't been done before and therefore you've had to simply make do with whatever is left.

legend, I've been seriously thinking about doing a fan film of DS9, with plot ideas very similar to yours. But....I don't know if there is enough interest. TOS and various types of TNG stuff seems to be the most popular.
 
legend, I've been seriously thinking about doing a fan film of DS9, with plot ideas very similar to yours. But....I don't know if there is enough interest. TOS and various types of TNG stuff seems to be the most popular.

make it so, i say! seriously, go for it. i think the niners would appreciate it. i know i would.
 
BTW, the enemy could be an ever more powerful Orion Syndicate, with an ever changing face and tactics. But with a small group of entities manipulating things behind the scenes.
It would give a series or a fan film the opportunity to do what Trek does best. Social commentary on current events.
 
legend, I've been seriously thinking about doing a fan film of DS9, with plot ideas very similar to yours. But....I don't know if there is enough interest. TOS and various types of TNG stuff seems to be the most popular.

Hey--if you get at least one of the cast to star in it....:cool:
 
BTW, the enemy could be an ever more powerful Orion Syndicate, with an ever changing face and tactics. But with a small group of entities manipulating things behind the scenes.
It would give a series or a fan film the opportunity to do what Trek does best. Social commentary on current events.

You can copy or borrow aspects of my bad guy idea HERE. ;)
 
BTW, the enemy could be an ever more powerful Orion Syndicate, with an ever changing face and tactics. But with a small group of entities manipulating things behind the scenes.
It would give a series or a fan film the opportunity to do what Trek does best. Social commentary on current events.

You can copy or borrow aspects of my bad guy idea HERE. ;)

Thanks for the offer. Hopefully I can come up with a few ideas of my own.
 
I think any new Star Trek has to stand on its own. It should only lightly reference events from the prior Star Trek shows and not do too many heavy spin off type stories. A new show has to be sold to a new generation of view who probably only seen a few eps of a prior Trek show in reruns. It should not just be for the fans of Deep Space Nine or The Next Generation, needs to draw in new viewers or else in won't survive past one season.

If its going to be on a network like CBS, the network will be going for ratings. Good Establish Actors playing characters, Good Drama, Lots of Action. Have to keep explaining what happened in prior shows is going to make poor drama and make the show boring. Needs to have a new history of what happened after Nemesis and now to make up some really good stories. Some time needs to pass, like 20 or 30 years so a show can exist without relying on heavy connections. Not everyone is going to know what a Cardassian, Bajoran, Borg, or a Feringi is. Deep Space Nine and Voyager are not being aired on a major cable channel as of now. Making a specific sequel to just one of the prior Star Trek shows probably be doomed to failure.

I am not saying Deep Space Nine is a bad show. I find it more enjoyable than Voyager or Enterprise. Still put the Original Show and The Next Generation above it. That is just my opinion. I try to judge Star Trek per story above saying one show is better than the other. You have to look at the larger picture, Star Trek The Next Generation is the most popular among the fans, had the highest ratings in its first run. That's what the networks look at. They're going to look for material from the Original Show & TNG before going onto DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.
 
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The problem with your ripoff mention is that just about all possible variations of bad guys have been done in ALL the sci fi series. Any new bad guy will be a mixture of previously seen ones.
Even mixtures of old ideas can be mixed in a way that they are effective and scary. The Borg themselves were constructed from parts of vampires, robots and zombies all mixed together. And they were effective and scary for a while...

One thing we all have to keep in mind the future Spock in Star Trek XI will be careful about altering the time line and make efforts to set events back to there original outcomes
For the ten millionth time! :rommie: The timeline HAS NOT CHANGED! Spock is in a different universe, not in his universe. He cannot have changed his timeline, because he isn't in that universe anymore. Temporal rules do not apply.
 
As much as I love DS9, I wouldn't want Series 6 to be a sequel to that fine series. I feel as though the finale put a pretty neat lil' bow on that saga, and I'm content with that. I have had very mixed feelings about the novels, in fact....Captain Ezri? Nope!

If there is a Series 6, I want a new century (25th or 26th), a new ship (for chrissakes, does it have to be called "Enterprise"?), a new crew (no legacy characters, please---I'm not interested in seeing the adventures of Mayweather's great-great-great-great granddaughter), and a new status quo (maybe the Klingons are UFP members, but the Andorians are not---something like that), as long as they're "exploring strange, new worlds", it's all good. Get a veteran actor or actress to play the c.o. and some hot young up-and-comers to round out the crew, get some good writers, and you're off and running............................
 
As much as I love DS9, I wouldn't want Series 6 to be a sequel to that fine series. I feel as though the finale put a pretty neat lil' bow on that saga, and I'm content with that. I have had very mixed feelings about the novels, in fact....Captain Ezri? Nope!

If there is a Series 6, I want a new century (25th or 26th), a new ship (for chrissakes, does it have to be called "Enterprise"?), a new crew (no legacy characters, please---I'm not interested in seeing the adventures of Mayweather's great-great-great-great granddaughter), and a new status quo (maybe the Klingons are UFP members, but the Andorians are not---something like that), as long as they're "exploring strange, new worlds", it's all good. Get a veteran actor or actress to play the c.o. and some hot young up-and-comers to round out the crew, get some good writers, and you're off and running............................

You're not thinking like a producer. Any producer worth his salt who is given the reins to the Trek "franchise" is going to capitalize on the success of the new Trek films. They are not going to go backward and restart something from the prime universe that, in their minds, nobody really cares about, has run it's course and is now effectively over. Now, with this new universe, they don't have to worry about being consistent with 40+ years of what came before it. They have a fresh start, and can tell fresh stories that are more than just the "aliens/planets-of-the-week-that-we-visit-once-and-never-see-again-or-care-about-again" stories that was what killed Trek to begin with.
 
As much as I love DS9, I wouldn't want Series 6 to be a sequel to that fine series. I feel as though the finale put a pretty neat lil' bow on that saga, and I'm content with that. I have had very mixed feelings about the novels, in fact....Captain Ezri? Nope!

If there is a Series 6, I want a new century (25th or 26th), a new ship (for chrissakes, does it have to be called "Enterprise"?), a new crew (no legacy characters, please---I'm not interested in seeing the adventures of Mayweather's great-great-great-great granddaughter), and a new status quo (maybe the Klingons are UFP members, but the Andorians are not---something like that), as long as they're "exploring strange, new worlds", it's all good. Get a veteran actor or actress to play the c.o. and some hot young up-and-comers to round out the crew, get some good writers, and you're off and running............................

You're not thinking like a producer. Any producer worth his salt who is given the reins to the Trek "franchise" is going to capitalize on the success of the new Trek films. They are not going to go backward and restart something from the prime universe that, in their minds, nobody really cares about, has run it's course and is now effectively over. Now, with this new universe, they don't have to worry about being consistent with 40+ years of what came before it. They have a fresh start, and can tell fresh stories that are more than just the "aliens/planets-of-the-week-that-we-visit-once-and-never-see-again-or-care-about-again" stories that was what killed Trek to begin with.

WRONG!!!

Any producer worth his salt is only going to take a Trek tv series to implement his vision. He will have no more loyalty to the Abramsverse than the Bermanverse.
 
As much as I love DS9, I wouldn't want Series 6 to be a sequel to that fine series. I feel as though the finale put a pretty neat lil' bow on that saga, and I'm content with that. I have had very mixed feelings about the novels, in fact....Captain Ezri? Nope!

If there is a Series 6, I want a new century (25th or 26th), a new ship (for chrissakes, does it have to be called "Enterprise"?), a new crew (no legacy characters, please---I'm not interested in seeing the adventures of Mayweather's great-great-great-great granddaughter), and a new status quo (maybe the Klingons are UFP members, but the Andorians are not---something like that), as long as they're "exploring strange, new worlds", it's all good. Get a veteran actor or actress to play the c.o. and some hot young up-and-comers to round out the crew, get some good writers, and you're off and running............................

You're not thinking like a producer. Any producer worth his salt who is given the reins to the Trek "franchise" is going to capitalize on the success of the new Trek films. They are not going to go backward and restart something from the prime universe that, in their minds, nobody really cares about, has run it's course and is now effectively over. Now, with this new universe, they don't have to worry about being consistent with 40+ years of what came before it. They have a fresh start, and can tell fresh stories that are more than just the "aliens/planets-of-the-week-that-we-visit-once-and-never-see-again-or-care-about-again" stories that was what killed Trek to begin with.

WRONG!!!

Any producer worth his salt is only going to take a Trek tv series to implement his vision. He will have no more loyalty to the Abramsverse than the Bermanverse.

No, a producer is going to go, "Hey, Star Trek '09! Everybody loved that frakking movie, and it made a shitload of money. Maybe my TV series should capitalize on that." Don't ever forget that a producer's "vision" is always led by dollar signs before anything else.
 
Hoping for a DS9 sequel series is really overestimating the tolerance of the average Trekkie for bold, groundbreaking storytelling that goes against in-universe norms.

That, and there'd be, you know, more Ferengi episodes so maybe it's not a great idea after all.
 
A new sequel to DS9? That almost writes itself: the consolidation of the other side of the wormhole. That would be like the second birth of the Federation.
 
I enjoyed DS9 but find it to be the most consistently over-rated of the Trek shows. Still, what I liked most about it was that it had a clear ending - the big story was over and the characters moved on. No reason at all for a direct sequel, IMO.

If we're going to have a new Trek TV series, I'd much rather see an Abramsverse series anyway. We've had countless hours of programming in the Bermanverse, I'd like to see them explore this new spin on Trek some more.
 
i dont know how ds9 could be continued. i'm thinking post dominion war, late 24th century or early 25th century. new ship, new crew and some guest starring from the old series. by moving up the timeline those 10-15 years since tng-ds9-voy shouldnt really matter. and no abramsverse just the plain old star trek universe.

the ultimate thing would be a post Destiny series. hey, you can dream ,right?
 
I enjoyed DS9 but find it to be the most consistently over-rated of the Trek shows. Still, what I liked most about it was that it had a clear ending - the big story was over and the characters moved on. No reason at all for a direct sequel, IMO.

If we're going to have a new Trek TV series, I'd much rather see an Abramsverse series anyway. We've had countless hours of programming in the Bermanverse, I'd like to see them explore this new spin on Trek some more.

Agreed. As you may recall, few of the main characters stayed on the station at the end -- Worf, O'Brien, and Odo all went on to do something new, while Sisko moved on in the ultimate manner. I liked how Kira got the top job, and Nog, who started out as a thief, became chief of operations. Talk about a character arc!
 
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