A-Team, movie... thing. Discussion and Spoilers

[Trekker4747]

Very fun for a remake, no dark bullshit or other "realistic" crap, Hannibal makes plans, Face is after the women, BA is angry and Murdock crazy so all in all I liked it, I hope they'll make some more.

It seems the business this movie is doing isn't great. Unless the DVD sales are incredible and pushes this thing over the edge into "profitable" it's unlikely there will be another one. Which is a shame, it would be nice seeing this group back together in another movie, one not quite so bogged down in establishing the premise.

 

[DarthPipes]

I don't think I've seen Sharlto Copley in anything before but given his performance of Face here I believe he may really be insane.

You mean Murdock. Bradley Cooper played Face,

This was only Sharlto Copley's second film. He made his debut as the star of District 9 and he was fantastic in it. His character was fairly high-strung, played comedy very well, and could really act. He does crazy very well.

EDIT: Never mind, it was already answered.

 

[Danny99]

You cannot judge someone's level of patience from their waiting to the end of the credits. That's silly.

Thank you.

For example, my patience is keeping me from saying some unkind words about Mk'R.

 

[Nardpuncher]

You cannot judge someone's level of patience from their waiting to the end of the credits. That's silly.

Thank you.

For example, my patience is keeping me from saying some unkind words about Mk'R.

You're right...showing patience in the face of adversity ( in the form of his comment) is a better indicator than sticking around in the hope that the credits will have something after.

 

[Wynterhawk]

I give it a C+.

I'm a die-hard A-Team fan, and I was expecting to either love or hate this movie. Well, I had neither reaction. It was just incredibly....average.

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I did enjoy the show when it was in its first run and when I'd heard that there was going to be a movie... well, those movies never seem to turn out well. *coughsTheLoserscoughs*

And, of course, there's the blink-and-you-miss-it cameos from Dirk and Dwight (which are nice; I liked them), but these come only at the very end, after the credits, so remember to stay if you want to see them.

Aww, they got a shout out? That's cool.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Someone answer me this, and if you feel you must, spoiler code it:

Do they ever do the FULL proper A-Team theme? Trek09 had a truncated version at the end, but never the full proper theme.

 

[Aragorn]

It seems the business this movie is doing isn't great. Unless the DVD sales are incredible and pushes this thing over the edge into "profitable" it's unlikely there will be another one. Which is a shame, it would be nice seeing this group back together in another movie, one not quite so bogged down in establishing the premise.

If this is a failure, they'll just remake it again in five years with a new cast.

 

[doubleohfive]

Someone answer me this, and if you feel you must, spoiler code it:

Do they ever do the FULL proper A-Team theme? Trek09 had a truncated version at the end, but never the full proper theme.

Yes. It plays somewhat at the beginning, and the opening bars are the basis of a lot of the score; the full theme is played, largely the same as the original (with minor differences in orchestration) over the end of the end credits, before the cameos. This track is on the soundtrack album as well.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

You cannot judge someone's level of patience from their waiting to the end of the credits. That's silly.

Sure ya can!

If the credits are about 4 minutes, then it seems most people who saw this movie have a less than 4 minute threshold for being patient.

But really, it's silly to pay so much for a movie these days and not watch the full thing. Maybe the movies I see these days (which are mostly superhero and the like) all have the final scene, so I'm just used to sticking around regardless. It's only a couple of minutes. And, at the very least, watching the people in line trample themselves to rush back in when there IS a final scene (the first Iron Man had me sitting there laughing in the theatre at the idiots) is quite fun to do.

This isn't new to these types of movies.

 

[doubleohfive]

At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to take sides on this (I am not), there's a reason movies have end credits. It's so people who work on the film will be credited for the work they do. In this age of ever-increasing personal narcissism, it's disheartening to know that pretty much every joe blow out there can't be arsed to sit in a theater for four minutes to listen to some music and read a few names.

I'm not criticizing anyone for lack of patience. I'm just saying if you can't be bothered to read a little, bonus scenes like these at the end of the A-Team, or Iron Man etc. clearly are not intended for you. In my not-so-humble-opinion, it's the height of narcissistic entitlement to complain after the fact if you missed it at the theater.

 

[Danny99]

For the record, when I saw A-Team, the theatre was empty (except for my girlfriend and I) before the cast credits had ended. We did wait, but I guess we were too narcissistic.

I just think it's poor judgment on the part of movie producers to not put something like extras in the credits. No one in this day in age is going to sit and read the credits. If they wanted people to see the extra material and read the credits, putting them together would have been the smart thing to do.

 

[Christopher]

At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to take sides on this (I am not), there's a reason movies have end credits. It's so people who work on the film will be credited for the work they do. In this age of ever-increasing personal narcissism, it's disheartening to know that pretty much every joe blow out there can't be arsed to sit in a theater for four minutes to listen to some music and read a few names.

You know, I used to feel the exact same way. I always sat through the entire credits, because I believed as you do, that the people who worked on the film deserve recognition. But the thing is... these days there are so many names in the credits going by so fast that it's impossible to read them all anyway. And these days, if I want to read the credits of a film, it's more practical to wait until I get home and look them up on IMDb, where I can peruse them at my leisure.

So these days I only stick around if there's a bonus scene at the end, if there's something cute going on with the credits like in a Pixar film, or if the end title music is something I can tolerate listening to. (The end title score to The Matrix Reloaded was so deafening that I had to wait outside the theater until it was done and then come back in to catch the preview for Revolutions.)

Which, come to think of it, still means I sit through the credits the vast majority of the time I go see a movie. And I do try to read them while I'm there, at least until the names get way too cluttered and tiny to read. So I guess I haven't changed my policy that much. But I no longer consider it necessary to sit through the whole thing.

 

[John Picard]

I absolutely loved this movie, as did my 15-year old. Murdock was well played and brilliant with his one-liners. The Murdock/BA banter was great and no cheesy humor that was forced. To me, a lot of it flowed well. A couple of times, when I thought the movie would be ending turned out to be the action ramping up again for another chapter.

I hope they return for a sequel.

 

[Trekker4747]

I'll rarely sit through the credits unless I know there's a post-credit sequence that I want to see. Otherwise, sorry, don't see the point. Everyone did the work, they all deserve credit but, honestly, I don't care who the assistant to the third grip for the second unit was. 00, if you ever play a background part in a movie and you let us know here I'll gladly watch the credits for your name. But otherwise, my reading their name isn't really helping anyone; the movie's made, I bought the ticket, they're getting paid, done.

Not saying my time is more important than a few minutes in the theater, just that I don't like sitting there reading a long list of names and jobs that I don't care about listening to some crappy end-credits song.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Someone answer me this, and if you feel you must, spoiler code it:

Do they ever do the FULL proper A-Team theme? Trek09 had a truncated version at the end, but never the full proper theme.

Yes. It plays somewhat at the beginning, and the opening bars are the basis of a lot of the score; the full theme is played, largely the same as the original (with minor differences in orchestration) over the end of the end credits, before the cameos. This track is on the soundtrack album as well.

Very cool...the trailers all felt like they just wanted to bust out with the theme, but never did. I'm glad it's in the film!

 

[DarthPipes]

Saw the movie again in a packed theater. While I stand by my earlier criticisms, the film still is a lot of fun. It's the four leads and the chemistry between them that really carries the film.

 

[doubleohfive]

At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to take sides on this (I am not), there's a reason movies have end credits. It's so people who work on the film will be credited for the work they do. In this age of ever-increasing personal narcissism, it's disheartening to know that pretty much every joe blow out there can't be arsed to sit in a theater for four minutes to listen to some music and read a few names.

You know, I used to feel the exact same way. I always sat through the entire credits, because I believed as you do, that the people who worked on the film deserve recognition. But the thing is... these days there are so many names in the credits going by so fast that it's impossible to read them all anyway. And these days, if I want to read the credits of a film, it's more practical to wait until I get home and look them up on IMDb, where I can peruse them at my leisure.

So these days I only stick around if there's a bonus scene at the end, if there's something cute going on with the credits like in a Pixar film, or if the end title music is something I can tolerate listening to. (The end title score to The Matrix Reloaded was so deafening that I had to wait outside the theater until it was done and then come back in to catch the preview for Revolutions.)

Which, come to think of it, still means I sit through the credits the vast majority of the time I go see a movie. And I do try to read them while I'm there, at least until the names get way too cluttered and tiny to read. So I guess I haven't changed my policy that much. But I no longer consider it necessary to sit through the whole thing.

I'll rarely sit through the credits unless I know there's a post-credit sequence that I want to see. Otherwise, sorry, don't see the point. Every did the work, they all deserve credit but, honestly, I don't care who the assisstant to the third grip for the second unit was. 00, if you ever play a background part in a movie and you let us know here I'll gladly watch the credits for your name. But otherwise, my reading their name isn't really helping anyone; the movie's made, I bought the ticket, they're getting paid, done.

Not saying my time is more important than a few minutes in the theater, just that I don't like sitting there reading a long list of names and jobs that I don't care about listening to some crappy end-credits song.

These are both reasonable reasons to not stick around. Obviously, it's unrealistic to expect everyone to slavishly stay all the way through the credits for each and every movie ... I wasn't trying to suggest that. Even I don't do that. The issue I have is with posters above who were pretty much crying foul because they didn't get to see the cameos because they didn't know to stay after. I can understand the frustration, but the implication that they were wronged somehow by this irked me. If anything, we as genre fans should come to expect it more often now as it's becoming more and more common, and the suggestion that productions "should" put them elsewhere so viewers don't "have" to stay through the end credits is patently absurd.

 

[Nardpuncher]

^^ The TrekBBS...where hyperbole reigns.

I said "Damn it" or soemthing because I wasn't sure if there was anything after the credits...but don't think there was any gnashing of teeth or weeping or complaining. It was an "Aw shucks" type thing.
Sorry about attaining the height of narcissistic entitlement.

 

[Aragorn]

If anything, we as genre fans should come to expect it more often now as it's becoming more and more common, and the suggestion that productions "should" put them elsewhere so viewers don't "have" to stay through the end credits is patently absurd.

I felt that the Stark cameo in Incredible Hulk was not the best way to end the movie going into the credits. Rather than feeling like the end of the movie, it felt more like a segue into The Avengers. Either they should've left that scene after the credits, or moved it in front of Norton's final scene.

 

[Harvey]

C+

The movie spends far too long establishing the premise, and gets too bogged down in the a convoluted plot that gets in the way of what the film is really about: one-liners and over the top action. When it manages to be about the latter things it is a lot of (stupid) fun, however. The original theme is used liberally, and it helps maintain the appropriate spirit.

When it comes to the cast, Copley steals the show as Murdock, but Neeson and Cooper are good as well. Jackson isn't any good, though, and much of his dialogue being completely incomprehensible. He has the look down, surely, but his acting leaves much to be desired.

The less said about Jessica Biel, the better. She weighs down the movie. Henry Czerny is a non-entity, sadly, and John Hamm's short cameo leaves one wishing he could have been in the movie proper. The cameos are fun, though, including Benedict, Schultz, and director Joe Carnahan.