Poll: Abby or Jessica?

[gturner]

The rules of the sea are different. Both of these young women sailed near pirate infested waters, and both of them have twice, heck, five times more boobage than Keira Knightley. You know Captain Jack Sparrow would hit it, but he's a pirate and that's the way he is. William Turner would at least initiate a romantic relationship, and Lord Beckett would demand a hand in marriage, assuming her parents were rich.

 

[Miss Chicken]

I never use 'cute' in a sexual sense, maybe because I am a woman.

 

[Amaris]

I never use 'cute' in a sexual sense, maybe because I am a woman.

Women do use "cute" in a sexual sense. I think it has more to do with individual perspective rather than a gender based perspective.

 

[gturner]

I never use 'cute' in a sexual sense, maybe because I am a woman.

You mean I needn't have gone straight to the pirate's booty boobage volume index?

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

Neither of them are 18, which makes this question gross.

16 is legal in most places in the Western World.

Legal age of consent perhaps, but still not legal adults. That begins at 18, throughout the Western World.

Neither of them are 18, which makes this question gross.

While I think the question is in bad taste, I don't think gross is an accurate way to describe it. I would say it is impolitic and that it does fall into a gray area. Looking at it purely from a pragmatic point of view, the girls both have secondary sexual characteristics. In two years they will look about the same as they pass the line that we recognize as full adulthood. That said, they are still minors, and it is still generally unwise.

I think Shameless is allowed to think this is gross. Certainly the feeling of being grossed out doesn't exist in a vacuum -- i.e., it's subjective. I'm pretty grossed out too, a feeling for me which has both to do with their ages and the meat-market-y feel to the OP. Regarding age, it's less their technical legal status and more the preying-on-inexperience-and-extreme-youth vibe. I think nearly any parent of teenage girls knows what I'm talking about, even if your teen girls are older than 16...

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Also: When I think something is gross, i think it's time to re-evaluate.

 

[Miss Chicken]

Legal age of consent perhaps, but still not legal adults. That begins at 18, throughout the Western World.

Why would it be gross to have sex with someone who is above the age of consent but under the age of adulthood? I lost my virginity at 16 and there was nothing gross about it.

 

[Brent]

It has always stricken me as odd that because the government has set the "legal" age at 18 to have intercourse, all the sudden for some reason if you are 17, and then turn 18, its like magical and you are a different person, your gross at 17 but hot at 18. Like an arbitrary number set by the government makes everything alright to look at a girl all the sudden.

I wouldn't have sex with her at 17, that's gross and your a pedo.

I will sex her when she is 18, heck ya.

It makes no sense how you could think someone is gross, or wrong, or a child, or pedo, or whatever at 17, but just 12 months later, or even less, all the sudden, things are right as rain at 18 and she is HOT, and SEXY, and you want to HAVE SEX WITH HER.

Sorry, rant.

 

[Amaris]

The capitalization really helps.

 

[auntiehill]

Yeah, when the guy who's user name is "Shameless" thinks you've crossed the line, it's definitely time to re-examine.

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

Legal age of consent perhaps, but still not legal adults. That begins at 18, throughout the Western World.

Why would it be gross to have sex with someone who is above the age of consent but under the age of adulthood? I lost my virginity at 16 and there was nothing gross about it.

Ah, but your partner was also probably 16. If someone my age (25) had sex with someone that's 16, that person would probably be going to jail.


Are you being purposely obtuse?

 

[Miss Chicken]

I clearly remember when the age of adult was changed from 21 to 18 in Australia. Every 19 or 20 year old I knew at the time stayed at the same level of maturity as they were the day before the change.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Also: When I think something is gross, i think it's time to re-evaluate.

Yeah, when the guy who's user name is "Shameless" thinks you've crossed the line, it's definitely time to re-examine.

Scorch!

 

[gturner]

Legal age of consent perhaps, but still not legal adults. That begins at 18, throughout the Western World.

Why would it be gross to have sex with someone who is above the age of consent but under the age of adulthood? I lost my virginity at 16 and there was nothing gross about it.

But did it generate any revenue for the state of California?

 

[Brent]

I clearly remember when the age of adult was changed from 21 to 18 in Australia. Every 19 or 20 year old I knew at the time stayed at the same level of maturity as they were the day before the change.

Precisely. Unfortunately, there isn't a way to properly measure maturity so I understand why they have to set an arbitrary number.

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

I clearly remember when the age of adult was changed from 21 to 18 in Australia. Every 19 or 20 year old I knew at the time stayed at the same level of maturity as they were the day before the change.

So you are being purposely obtuse. Got it.

 

[Miss Chicken]

Legal age of consent perhaps, but still not legal adults. That begins at 18, throughout the Western World.

Why would it be gross to have sex with someone who is above the age of consent but under the age of adulthood? I lost my virginity at 16 and there was nothing gross about it.

Ah, but your partner was also probably 16. If someone my age (25) had sex with someone that's 16, that person would probably be going to jail.

Are you being purposely obtuse?

Nope. I lost my virginity to a 20 year old. At 17 I had a 26 year old boyfriend. At 18 I married a 25 year old.

I admit this was 35 years ago when it was considered quite normal for girls to get married as teenagers and often to men in the early to mid-20s. My sister-in-law was 17 when she married my 22 year old brother-in-law in 1976.

 

[greenguy]

Abby Sunderland is under the age of consent in the state which she lives, and she is under the legal age of adulthood in the federal jurisdiction she lives. Also, 17-18 is a world of difference from 19-20-21 especially when the person in question is a whopping 16 and the lines have already been drawn.

 

[Jetfire]

Just because something is the law it doesn't necessarily stop a person from thinking, feeling or doing what they want...this goes for many things in our society and people can get offended by it but it doesn't stop it from happening.



I don't find either one of them "cute"

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

Why would it be gross to have sex with someone who is above the age of consent but under the age of adulthood? I lost my virginity at 16 and there was nothing gross about it.

Ah, but your partner was also probably 16. If someone my age (25) had sex with someone that's 16, that person would probably be going to jail.

Are you being purposely obtuse?

Nope. I lost my virginity to a 20 year old. At 17 I had a 26 year old boyfriend. At 18 I married a 25 year old.

I admit this was 35 years ago when it was considered quite normal for girls to get married as teenagers and often to men in the early to mid-20s. My sister-in-law was 17 when she married my 22 year old brother-in-law in 1976.

Whatever. You just don't get it. I'm done.

 

[Brent]

Abby Sunderland is under the age of consent in the state which she lives, and she is under the legal age of adulthood in the federal jurisdiction she lives. Also, 17-18 is a world of difference from 19-20-21 especially when the person in question is a whopping 16 and the lines have already been drawn.

For having sex with, yes.

For saying she is cute, no.

Nothing in the world wrong with saying she is cute, pretty, a good looking women, etc..... Holy cow, have we gotten to the stage in our society where we cannot simply admire beauty without having to have a sexual connotation to it?