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It's official: Thank God for Remastered!

I will say from personal experience that it is harder for a modern CG artist to make the effects in the TOS style rather than succumb to making it look more
 
I will say from personal experience that it is harder for a modern CG artist to make the effects in the TOS style rather than succumb to making it look more

Yeah because it is hard to make things look crappy, old, washed out and blurry. ;) :p *runs*
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

IT DOES TAKE SOME TALENT!!!
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Aww the thread was turning friendly and constructive, but you had to ruin it!
 
What I'm really waiting for is the long awaited 1/350 scale TOS Enterprise kit, because I can't justify spending $1200 bucks on a Master Replicas version.

If I can build it right I think I could have loads of fun with that.
Well, it is on course to hit shelves sometime in 2012... or 2013... or 2014... or never. :wtf:

My suggestion, don't hold your breath while waiting for that kit. It seems to have a permanent place at the back of the line over at Round 2. :shifty:
 
Well, it is on course to hit shelves sometime in 2012... or 2013... or 2014... or never. :wtf:

My suggestion, don't hold your breath while waiting for that kit. It seems to have a permanent place at the back of the line over at Round 2. :shifty:
Yer killing me!!!:scream:
 
There wasn't anything wrong with the series as it was. The Remastered version is nothing more than Paramount pandering to those who refuse to watch anything that doesn't have high end special effects and can't grasp the fact the show was made in the 1960's and used 1960's technology for the special effects! It's like when they colorized old black and white movies and tv shows because people couldn't handle watching anything that wasn't in color. As well as the abomination of pan and scan. People couldn't grasp the fact that the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen in a letterbox picture were there because a movie screen and a TV screen are a different shape and thought the bars cut the top an the bottom of the picture off when it's actually pan and scan that cuts the sides of the picture off .

If you're paying more attention to the special effects than the story then you're watching the show for all the wrong reasons. The show was designed to tell a story not be a special effects showcase. Thats the problem with a lot of Sci-fi type movies and shows these days. They mainly care about being a special effects showcase with a tiny bit of a story thrown in to link all CGI and explosion scences together.
 
What I'm really waiting for is the long awaited 1/350 scale TOS Enterprise kit, because I can't justify spending $1200 bucks on a Master Replicas version.

If I can build it right I think I could have loads of fun with that.
Well, it is on course to hit shelves sometime in 2012... or 2013... or 2014... or never. :wtf:

My suggestion, don't hold your breath while waiting for that kit. It seems to have a permanent place at the back of the line over at Round 2. :shifty:

But, but.... :( ... :weep: ... :wah:
 
There wasn't anything wrong with the series as it was. The Remastered version is nothing more than Paramount pandering to those who refuse to watch anything that doesn't have high end special effects and can't grasp the fact the show was made in the 1960's and used 1960's technology for the special effects! It's like when they colorized old black and white movies and tv shows because people couldn't handle watching anything that wasn't in color. As well as the abomination of pan and scan. People couldn't grasp the fact that the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen in a letterbox picture were there because a movie screen and a TV screen are a different shape and thought the bars cut the top an the bottom of the picture off when it's actually pan and scan that cuts the sides of the picture off .

If you're paying more attention to the special effects than the story then you're watching the show for all the wrong reasons. The show was designed to tell a story not be a special effects showcase. Thats the problem with a lot of Sci-fi type movies and shows these days. They mainly care about being a special effects showcase with a tiny bit of a story thrown in to link all CGI and explosion scences together.
SF has always been a visual spectacle. In fairness TOS did the best they could under the circumstances. But you can bet that if they could have done more they would have.
 
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There wasn't anything wrong with the series as it was.
Agreed. Well, except for Doomsday Machine... & Tomorrow Is Yesterday...& Ultimate Computer... & Enterprise Incident...;)
The Remastered version is nothing more than Paramount pandering to those who refuse to watch anything that doesn't have high end special effects and can't grasp the fact the show was made in the 1960's and used 1960's technology for the special effects!
Good buisness is where you find it- Robocop
It's like when they colorized old black and white movies and tv shows because people couldn't handle watching anything that wasn't in color.
Mark Of Zorro works better in colour: I don't care what anyone says!!!:shifty:
As well as the abomination of pan and scan.
Pan&scan should be banned, like trans-fats!
If you're paying more attention to the special effects than the story then you're watching the show for all the wrong reasons. The show was designed to tell a story not be a special effects showcase.
BUT,
and here's the 'but,'
High-def matte line distractions in the form of 60's limited opticals on a TV-shoestring budget DETRACT from the excellent stories!!!!!
NOW, I can feel Matt Decker's pain without having to suspend my disbelief at the AMT model burned with matches & painted very hastily in the Trek/Mission Impossible dumpster area of 60's era Paramount!:guffaw:
 
There wasn't anything wrong with the series as it was. The Remastered version is nothing more than Paramount pandering to those who refuse to watch anything that doesn't have high end special effects and can't grasp the fact the show was made in the 1960's and used 1960's technology for the special effects! It's like when they colorized old black and white movies and tv shows because people couldn't handle watching anything that wasn't in color. As well as the abomination of pan and scan. People couldn't grasp the fact that the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen in a letterbox picture were there because a movie screen and a TV screen are a different shape and thought the bars cut the top an the bottom of the picture off when it's actually pan and scan that cuts the sides of the picture off .

If you're paying more attention to the special effects than the story then you're watching the show for all the wrong reasons. The show was designed to tell a story not be a special effects showcase. Thats the problem with a lot of Sci-fi type movies and shows these days. They mainly care about being a special effects showcase with a tiny bit of a story thrown in to link all CGI and explosion scences together.


Even if you HATE the remastered version, it's worth picking up the blu rays if you have HD capability.

the HD quality alone is so awesome it knocks replay value through the roof! It really is awesome. I mean... At first I was underwhelmed. But after the detail sinks in, you are really blown away constantly.

Since you can watch the OLD effects while still keeping it in HD, it's great for everyone.

I mean, if you look at it that way, the remastered version could be nothing but a silly bonus you could turn on and off.

the real value is in the HD quality of the blu rays, not the remastering itself. that's why i picked up the set. However, I do appreciate both old and new graphics equally.
 
SF has always been a visual spectacle. In fairness TOS did the best they could under the circumstances. But you can bet that if they could have more they would have.
I bet the FX crew of Trek drooled at what they could have accomplished with the resources of Kubrick's 2001....:(
 
SF has always been a visual spectacle.
Yes some Sci-fi of the past had some spectacular SFX but the story came first and the SFX came second. The effects were used as a tool to help the story along not the story stitching together the SFX. Sadly these days it's become the standard of making flashy SFX first and making an uninteresting and usually bland story to stich the effects together.



In fairness TOS did the best they could under the circumstances. But you can bet that if they could have more they would have.
We have George Lucas to thank for this type of thinking of "We didn't have the resources that we do now so I'm going to redo it with this new stuff" these days. Just because you can update and redo the effects doesn't mean you should. I think when you remove all the original SFX and replace them with mediocre CGI one like they've done with the remastered version it's disrespectful to the hard working people who made the original ones.
 
SF has always been a visual spectacle.
Yes some Sci-fi of the past had some spectacular SFX but the story came first and the SFX came second. The effects were used as a tool to help the story along not the story stitching together the SFX. Sadly these days it's become the standard of making flashy SFX first and making an uninteresting and usually bland story to stich the effects together.



In fairness TOS did the best they could under the circumstances. But you can bet that if they could have more they would have.
We have George Lucas to thank for this type of thinking of "We didn't have the resources that we do now so I'm going to redo it with this new stuff" these days. Just because you can update and redo the effects doesn't mean you should. I think when you remove all the original SFX and replace them with mediocre CGI one like they've done with the remastered version it's disrespectful to the hard working people who made the original ones.


See, that's the thing. Nobody freakin' replaced anything.

Nobody removed the old original SFX. It's for sale. Everyone who wants it can buy it. Heck, it comes WITH the remastered on the blu rays.

So how is that in any way disrespectful?


Lucas is an entirely different animal. He refuses to acknowledge the original SFX. he is much more rigid and disrespectful to the original fx people.
 
I think when you remove all the original SFX and replace them with mediocre CGI one like they've done with the remastered version it's disrespectful to the hard working people who made the original ones
NOT when the originals are still available IMO.

HD has risen the visual bar; to have excellent 60's live footage & crappy 60's TV opticals is just... WRONG!!!!
Unless you like drop-out & back-light distortion.:rolleyes:
 
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