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Films you can't stand...

Jungle Fever- While Samuel L. Jackson is good I really feel this is one of the most fraudulent films ever made. No one but Spike Lee can make a two hour ode to the evils of inter-racial dating and not be called out on the fact that there was nothing else to the movie except that.
 
It's been a few years since I've seen Jungle Fever, but as I recall it isn't a rejection of interracial relationships. Rather, it's a rejection of adultery. That's why Wesley Snipes' affair doesn't work out, but John Turturro is perfectly fine dating a black woman at the end of the film.
 
I love First Contact, but I have to say claiming it never falters or missteps is a bit much. It's a little bit like two movies fused together in a nuclear accident. The tone and stylistics of the planet-side sequences (light humor driven by the oldest of cliches - the funny drunken loser) and the ship-board sequences (tense, almost apocalyptic - at least for the microcosm that is the ship - atmosphere, and psychological drama), these two things clash mightily with some of the most jarring scene cuts I've ever seen. I forgive it that because it's a fun and satisfying flick, but it's far from a perfect movie.

Yeah, I totally understand this criticism of the movie, but only on paper. It does sound misconceived to make a movie that cuts between being a light-hearted comedy and a suspenseful horror/actioner, but in execution, it worked...at least for me. It's hard for me to imagine, but I'll have to accept that for some people it didn't.

For me it wasn't like being uncomfortable from a constantly jarring tone switch...it was more like being able to see a great horror movie AND a great comedy all rolled into one! :D I have so much fun (almost too much :p) every time I watch it, but I also find it quite moving, especially when Picard saves Data, Cochrane meets the Vulcan, and Lily and Picard exchange their goodbye. :luvlove:

But as vehemently as I disagree with Myasishchev about "Star Trek: First Contact", I'm think he's quite spot on about the new Star Trek movie. I loved the way the characters were played/written and their dialogue, but the plotting infuriated me. I understand the criticism of a lack of depth in Kirk's arc, but it didn't bother me that much.
 
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Just watched Revolutionary Road. Wow, what garbage. Quite unsettling. I don't recommend it at all.

Oh, that's a good pick. I generally have a good idea whether or not I'll like a flick before I go see it (and I just skip the ones I won't like), but Revolutionary Road is one that surprised me... in a bad way.
 
Sometimes, Will Ferrell can be hilarious . . .
Oh? When?
Citizen Kane - Nothing but an ultrahyped “classic”.
You're putting us on, right?

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No. I never considered Citizen Cane good at all, either. I had to endure watching it in high school, and could not understand why anyone thought the film was that great. Just because people consider something a classic and great doesn't mean it is. I don't go all gaga over something just because people say it's a great classic, and it is just because. Same with books.

This is why I hate 2001 so much... to me, it's not all that... nothing but a 3-hour classical music fest, set to space visuals, with a talking red dot. IMO, there was no substance to the film at all, and it has almost no dialogue that would justify sitting through it. But for some strange reason, people seem to drool all over it, as some great noble classic of science fiction, which it certainly is not, and never will be. It's a space musical, nothing more.
 
ET is probably the biggie. Everyone thinks it's a classic and everyone I've encountered loves it. I watched it once and it made me physically ill, for some reason. It's one film I have absolutely no interest in ever seeing again.


Alex

This. E.T. is a rip off of a superior 1978 Disney movie, "The Cat From Outer Space."
 
The Pirates of The Caribbean movies. I absolutely hated the first movie. There was absolutely nothing good about it. An idiotic script, dull action scenes, OTT acting and zombie pirates, for frak's sake. :rolleyes: I didn't get why everybody else was so in love with it.

I hated part 2 and 3 even more, but by then most people started to notice as well that these movies were profoundly stupid.
 
This is why I hate 2001 so much... to me, it's not all that... nothing but a 3-hour classical music fest, set to space visuals, with a talking red dot. IMO, there was no substance to the film at all, and it has almost no dialogue that would justify sitting through it. But for some strange reason, people seem to drool all over it, as some great noble classic of science fiction, which it certainly is not, and never will be. It's a space musical, nothing more
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Confused Matthew's review is much like yours. But then I encourage you to watch this
 
No. I never considered Citizen Cane good at all, either. I had to endure watching it in high school, and could not understand why anyone thought the film was that great. Just because people consider something a classic and great doesn't mean it is.

Haven't seen it since high school, then? It isn't widely considered the best American film of all time "just because." Roger Ebert has a nice article explaining some of its importance.

This is why I hate 2001 so much... to me, it's not all that... nothing but a 3-hour classical music fest, set to space visuals, with a talking red dot.

At 141 minutes, it falls about 40 minutes short of being a 3-hour anything. I don't have time for a 9 part rant against confusedmatthew, and I suspect your feelings are the same, but Roger Ebert has a nice write-up explaining some of the film's virtues.
 

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Ever seen Stranger Than Fiction? It is a radical mistake to stay away from this very drily witty, magical realism delight because it has Will Ferrell in it. It's like nothing else he's done, he's marvelous in it, as are the other three principles - Dustin Hoffman, Maggie Gyllenhall and Emma Thompson. And if that cast doesn't convince you, I guess nothing will. I find Ferrell very hit or miss as a funny man, but this is one of my favorite comedies of all time.

Definitely a wonderful movie and a superb cast. I love this movie.

There are few films I really can't stand because they all have at least some redeemable qualities. The only two I can think of now that I really loathe are:

A.I. Very long, messy, over-done, painful and very, very....long.


Surf Nazis Must Die

Don't ask. :(
 
The Pirates of The Caribbean movies. I absolutely hated the first movie. There was absolutely nothing good about it. An idiotic script, dull action scenes, OTT acting and zombie pirates, for frak's sake. :rolleyes: I didn't get why everybody else was so in love with it.

I hated part 2 and 3 even more, but by then most people started to notice as well that these movies were profoundly stupid.


Yeah, I hear you. I didn't even really like the first. I don't know why. Maybe because I was expecting something different? I wish someone would make a dark gritty Pirate movie. There's a void waiting to be filled.
 
The Pirates of The Caribbean movies. I absolutely hated the first movie. There was absolutely nothing good about it. An idiotic script, dull action scenes, OTT acting and zombie pirates, for frak's sake. :rolleyes: I didn't get why everybody else was so in love with it.

I hated part 2 and 3 even more, but by then most people started to notice as well that these movies were profoundly stupid.


Yeah, I hear you. I didn't even really like the first. I don't know why. Maybe because I was expecting something different? I wish someone would make a dark gritty Pirate movie. There's a void waiting to be filled.

A dark, gritty pirate movie is right up Tim Burton's alley. Johnny Depp could star as a bizarre and disturbing pirate who....oh, nevermind.
 
Sometimes, Will Ferrell can be hilarious . . .
Oh? When?
Citizen Kane - Nothing but an ultrahyped “classic”.
You're putting us on, right?

Will Ferrell can be funny when he's a little more subdued. For example, I loved him as Mustafa in the Austin Powers films. I enjoyed his portrayal in Stranger than Fiction, and I love the George W. Bush impersonations. YMMV.

As for Citizen Kane, I'm serious. It's hyped, it's tedious, and it feels pretentious to me. I do not like the film, and I have watched it several times just so to make certain I'm not missing some grand design, but I have yet to find what makes it such a "classic".

This is why I hate 2001 so much... to me, it's not all that... nothing but a 3-hour classical music fest, set to space visuals, with a talking red dot. IMO, there was no substance to the film at all, and it has almost no dialogue that would justify sitting through it. But for some strange reason, people seem to drool all over it, as some great noble classic of science fiction, which it certainly is not, and never will be. It's a space musical, nothing more.

I enjoy 2001 because of several sequences in the movie, but yeah, it's not high minded idealism, it's a space opera. A good one (IMO), but it, too, is overhyped.

Haven't seen it since high school, then? It isn't widely considered the best American film of all time "just because." Roger Ebert has a nice article explaining some of its importance.

I am aware of what is supposed to make this film an apparent classic. I simply disagree that it is the best or deserves so much praise.
I've seen far better films. Again, your mileage may vary. I still believe the movie is ultrahyped.
 
I simply can't sit through 2001. A sequence of needlessly long drawn-out scenes doesn't create an artistic and intellectual masterpiece, it simply creates a borefest. It's hollow underneath the pretty pictures. The movie's runtime could be reduced to 30 minutes and you wouldn't lose anything. And that tells a lot about it.
 
I am aware of what is supposed to make this film an apparent classic. I simply disagree that it is the best or deserves so much praise. I've seen far better films. Again, your mileage may vary. I still believe the movie is ultrahyped.

Fair enough, surely. Personally, my favorite film is Blade Runner, though I hold Citizen Kane quite highly as well.

As to being ultrahyped, since it's widely considered the best American film of all time (and often, simply the best film of all time), it seems to go without saying. I can't imagine the hype getting any more crazy than that. :lol:
 
Birth of a Nation and Gone With the Wind for making racism look good.

Cruising struck me as pretty close to pandering to homophobia.

Hard Candy struck me as pretty close to pandering to pedophilia and sadism. Yes, I know the pedophile was the one being tortured. But, imagining a nymphette as engaging in sexual assaults on a grown man is pretty close to actually being a pedophile fantasy. Racist movies subtly confirm common ideological prejudices. Sexual imagery mostly gets people horny, which may not be to my taste but doesn't generally tend to cause earthquakes and hurricanes. (Claims to the contrary are spurious.) But Hard Candy seemed aimed at getting a certain kind of person off while denying it. This sort of thing seems really detestable.

I can't see hating a movie for just being bad. Life's too short for such gigantic labors.
 
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