I want to see Scotty act more serious in the next film. He just seemed like he was actually drunk within the movie. I mean, he was just way too overly goofy within the film.
In fact, Simon Pegg didn't seem like Scotty at all to me.
New sets onboard ship. Scrap the brewery!
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I want to see Scotty act more serious in the next film. He just seemed like he was actually drunk within the movie. I mean, he was just way too overly goofy within the film.
In fact, Simon Pegg didn't seem like Scotty at all to me.
Yep; couldn't agree more. Running around like a chicken with it's head cut off might be very dramatic or exciting for some people but is not very professional for a seasoned Starfleet officer. I always liked when Scotty was in command because you knew he'd be serious and not take any crap off of anyone. Especially those Eminiar idiots. I want him acting like Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott not a 30 something Wesley Crusher.
Yeah, the thing is that I loved everyone else.
Well, I would have re-casted Spock's Mom maybe.
Anyways, I'm just glad he was hardly in the movie, though.
Well, I would have re-casted Spock's Mom maybe.
Anyways, I'm just glad he was hardly in the movie, though.
I can live with the brewery, but I wouldn't mind a custom set.
BUT PLEASE. No TNG-style layout. Vertical tubes with neons in them do not a reactor make. It just looks silly and weak.
Let's have a series of reactors dominating the floorplan of the set - base it on the arrangement of the warp core bits that Scotty ejects in the black hole scene (whether or not you think they're the core or the antimatter pods, its still a cool basis for a set). Have an arched ceiling up top to indicate its location in the hull.
BUT PLEASE. No TNG-style layout. Vertical tubes with neons in them do not a reactor make. It just looks silly and weak.
Let's have a series of reactors dominating the floorplan of the set - base it on the arrangement of the warp core bits that Scotty ejects in the black hole scene (whether or not you think they're the core or the antimatter pods, its still a cool basis for a set). Have an arched ceiling up top to indicate its location in the hull.
I liked the idea of the brewery, but in reality it looked far too modern and pointless. There was no sense of direction or where things were. It was just a bunch of random pipes for the sake of having a bunch of random pipes. Call the old engineerings lava lamps if you want, but they had a dedicated team of production designers who tried to make sense of it all, giving the layout a purpose. The engineering in the new film lacked that entirely. Have all the random pipes giving the secondary hull a grand scale yes, but give it a set dressing/CG extension focal point to make it look like there's a central engine powering this massive ship and not a bloody water turbine.
Another word about Scotty. He was usually serious in the first few movies but he got a few funny lines in TVH. Then some idiot decided to turn him into a clown in ST5 and it stuck through TNG Relics. That's the Scotty we saw in STXI.
As for engineering. They could use the new technology of large array LCD or LED displays like what was seen in the last summer Olympics opening ceremonies. The displays could be incorporated into the interior of a warp reactor(s) and power conduits. A flexible display could be wrapped around the inside od a transparent/translucent element of the set. Sort of like a much larger version of the warp core from Voyager or TMP. Since it's basicly a computer display you could do anything you want with it.
I really liked the Enterprise-E warp core but hated the neon elements and the easily breakable coolant tanks. Just take that one and rip it apart and modify and upgrade it. Since it's ejectable, I'd like to see some ejection system hardware on it.
As for engineering. They could use the new technology of large array LCD or LED displays like what was seen in the last summer Olympics opening ceremonies. The displays could be incorporated into the interior of a warp reactor(s) and power conduits. A flexible display could be wrapped around the inside od a transparent/translucent element of the set. Sort of like a much larger version of the warp core from Voyager or TMP. Since it's basicly a computer display you could do anything you want with it.
I really liked the Enterprise-E warp core but hated the neon elements and the easily breakable coolant tanks. Just take that one and rip it apart and modify and upgrade it. Since it's ejectable, I'd like to see some ejection system hardware on it.
startrekrcks
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I didn't mind the coolant tanks and the water tubes who cares
I didn't really mind the breakable coolant tanks either. I figured that if anyone could break them it would be Data since he's alot stronger that the average human. And a starship, before the era when everyone has replicators in their quarters, has to provide for freshwater storage and handling. But that looked like alot of handling capacity for a ship with less than 2000 people. Of course that part was filmed in an actual water treatment plant that probably handles water for an entire city.
A little off-topic, but I finally saw the dreaded "window" in the space brewery that some have been holding up as ultimate evidence of STXI's evil.
It's when Kirk's rushing down the path between the big tanks looking for Uhura, on the far wall.
Having finally seen it I can tell you all it has not in any way ruined the film or the brewery scenes for me at all. I actually found it quite amusing. At least it was night outside!
It's when Kirk's rushing down the path between the big tanks looking for Uhura, on the far wall.
Having finally seen it I can tell you all it has not in any way ruined the film or the brewery scenes for me at all. I actually found it quite amusing. At least it was night outside!
You mean this window, which allows them to pipe beer into space?A little off-topic, but I finally saw the dreaded "window" in the space brewery that some have been holding up as ultimate evidence of STXI's evil.
It's when Kirk's rushing down the path between the big tanks looking for Uhura, on the far wall.
Having finally seen it I can tell you all it has not in any way ruined the film or the brewery scenes for me at all. I actually found it quite amusing. At least it was night outside!
Loved the giant spigot on that tank on the left side of that picture. Why didn't they just reuse the sickbay set and clear out all of the medical related stuff and put in those computer terminals? Would have been real easy.
That's the one.
It's not like it would have been hard for them to cover it up
You can't even say it's meant to be a window on the ship since I think they're all meant to be huge like the bridge window. I guess you could call them weird-looking viewscreens if you really have to explain it away.
I still think the brewery looked great!
It's not like it would have been hard for them to cover it up
You can't even say it's meant to be a window on the ship since I think they're all meant to be huge like the bridge window. I guess you could call them weird-looking viewscreens if you really have to explain it away.
I still think the brewery looked great!
You mean this window, which allows them to pipe beer into space?A little off-topic, but I finally saw the dreaded "window" in the space brewery that some have been holding up as ultimate evidence of STXI's evil.
It's when Kirk's rushing down the path between the big tanks looking for Uhura, on the far wall.
Having finally seen it I can tell you all it has not in any way ruined the film or the brewery scenes for me at all. I actually found it quite amusing. At least it was night outside!
It doens't go into space.
It's a direct feed into Scotty's quarters
If you ever get a chance to see the engineering section(s) of an actual ship, the brewery isn't that far off. Yes, this is a space faring vessel, so really it's quite fitting and believable for someone like myself whose served aboard a nuclear powered vessel.
But its the 23rd century and I want to believe thats its the 23rd century. They should spend some money and make some effort into trying to accomplish that instead of projecting swirly lights onto some big tanks.
The sets from 1979 onwards are far, far, far superior to what we got in 2009 with the notable exception of the Bridge, Transporter Room and Corridors which are the only sets onboard ship they made an effort with.
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Lord Garth
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I hope Engineering has some Liquid Cocaine in the sequel.
I would be giddy if in the next movie Scotty approaches Spock about allocating supplies from the ship's stores toward a little "experiment" he's working on. Cut to him making beer. "Mr. Scott, the Enterprise is not a brewery."
Okay, just to humor the complainers I imagined the warp core of the Enterprise-D sitting in an open industrial space like the one in STXI. It looked ridiculous. Not the set, mind you, the warp core. Its small. Its covered with blinky lights, its got a door with a window on it! -like a microwave oven! You can actually look at the dilithium crystals as they cook! If there's a new engineering for the sequel, it can't be anything remotely like that.
Okay, just to humor the complainers I imagined the warp core of the Enterprise-D sitting in an open industrial space like the one in STXI. It looked ridiculous. Not the set, mind you, the warp core. Its small. Its covered with blinky lights, its got a door with a window on it! -like a microwave oven! You can actually look at the dilithium crystals as they cook! If there's a new engineering for the sequel, it can't be anything remotely like that.
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