Biggest "Reset Button" Ever? (SPOILERS)
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So guess I'm the only one who didn't mind the Cyberking then? Awwww. 
Just a bit I think. Damn.
So apparently the 'crack in time' has been wending its way back through the entire shows history, going all the way back to at least Remembrance of the Daleks, where Ace had never heard about the Yeti in the Underground or the Loch Ness monster in the Thames. Maybe even explaining the dissapearance of England's space program and Sarah Jane claiming to be from 1980.
Moffet's basically taking a shot at clearing up a lot of the series continuity problems. It certainly sounds better than 'wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey'.
Just a bit I think. Damn.
So apparently the 'crack in time' has been wending its way back through the entire shows history, going all the way back to at least Remembrance of the Daleks, where Ace had never heard about the Yeti in the Underground or the Loch Ness monster in the Thames. Maybe even explaining the dissapearance of England's space program and Sarah Jane claiming to be from 1980.
Moffet's basically taking a shot at clearing up a lot of the series continuity problems. It certainly sounds better than 'wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey'.
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Do you know of ANYONE who wants to remember the Cyberking? I would say the toy companies, but even they didn't release it...
I had pretty much wipe that part of The Next Doctor from my mind.
Also even if there is a big reset button, those things will still have happend to the Doctor, just not the rest of the universe, the fact the Doctor still remembers them is the important bit.
That's the thing that surprised me in The Eleventh Hour. Given the menacing aliens that have visited terror on Earth over the past few years, I had expected that people would be running to their bolt holes screaming in terror. Instead, they simply gawked and took snapshots with their mobiles as if they had never seen aliens.
So guess I'm the only one who didn't mind the Cyberking then? Awwww.
I liked the Cyberking, too.
Well, this has the potential to bring everything back to the status quo of the Classic series. But I sincerely hope that Moffat won't do that. I think the Time War background is more interesting and I also like the premise that humans are aware of aliens. It would also be sad to have the Davies era wiped out.
I think it's more likely that time will be only rewritten in relation to Amy and maybe River killing the Doctor (if that's what she'll do).
I actually like the idea of the earth forgetting about the alien attacks. While they were fun episodes it became a bit absurd in trying to explain that some people forgot and some didnt.
Plus more and more government officials were becoming aware of the doctor.
(most of the earth though is still NOT aware of the doctor. Just a few groups of people and some government officials)
Watching some of the classic episodes I kind of like the show being more mysterious. I have just started watching WHO on a regular basis and have loved ebery minute of it. The new series is excellent but sometimes it a little to extreme.(Not to say its bad by any means) The doctor in the span of 3 seasons went from the End of Earth, to the beginning of earth and than the end of the universe. The old series after 26 seasons went as far as 500000 I think. I would like episodes that deal with the far future spaced on a little more. Knowing the ulitmate fate of mankind and whatnot makes other episodes seem small in comparison.
Regarless though the show has been excellent so far and a rewrite concerning earths awareness of aliens and the governments awareness of the doctor wouldnt bother me,
Plus more and more government officials were becoming aware of the doctor.
(most of the earth though is still NOT aware of the doctor. Just a few groups of people and some government officials)
Watching some of the classic episodes I kind of like the show being more mysterious. I have just started watching WHO on a regular basis and have loved ebery minute of it. The new series is excellent but sometimes it a little to extreme.(Not to say its bad by any means) The doctor in the span of 3 seasons went from the End of Earth, to the beginning of earth and than the end of the universe. The old series after 26 seasons went as far as 500000 I think. I would like episodes that deal with the far future spaced on a little more. Knowing the ulitmate fate of mankind and whatnot makes other episodes seem small in comparison.
Regarless though the show has been excellent so far and a rewrite concerning earths awareness of aliens and the governments awareness of the doctor wouldnt bother me,
Haven't seen it yet, but THANK GOD. Those were the WORST episodes, the absolute worst of New Who.
WE CAN ONLY HOPE!
How fucking tired was it that every single year a massive alien invasion would wipe out half the planet, and then everyone would go back to normal the next day. I grew so fucking weary of random people on the street in present day making offhand comments about cybermen and daleks. Ugh.
Wipe that crap clean away and pretend that it never happened.
I agree. Though I liked those episodes it was getting rather tiring that there was always these massive attacks on earth. I know that the Doctor said after the second alien attack that the world was different now.(The first attack with the slitheen was thought wa hoax by many) I guess its not horrible to have earth aware of aliens. But I like the more sutle mysterious episodes.
Why would the events like the Cyberking's rampage and the sky full of Daleks be erased altogether when it is fractures in space-time? The cracks are across the Universe and they've turned the timeline into a convoluted patchwork, with the events the Doctor appears in being shards that are loosely connected with each other.
*Examines Stcoop up close like the Eleventh Doctor*
I see you posted this topic on Galifrey base. You're like the crack in wall, you're everywhere.
I think it'll all be cool in the end. Just chill, everyone.
Why we try to pre-empt what's going to happen is a bit of a mystery to me.
As I said in the main thread, there's clues in each ep, I suspect, which will be resolved in the finale.
As to those RTD eps not existing, I don't think it'll be exactly like that.
Why we try to pre-empt what's going to happen is a bit of a mystery to me.
As I said in the main thread, there's clues in each ep, I suspect, which will be resolved in the finale.
As to those RTD eps not existing, I don't think it'll be exactly like that.
I wouldn't jump to conclusion until the end of the season. Whatever's done can be undone in the finale.
I have to agree with a few others here, we don't know enough up til this point ("Flesh & Stone") to think of it as a reset button. I won't spoil it but suffice it to say The Doctor does know something is really wrong in the universe. I doubt it will be a re-set button kind of thing but more of a way of opening previously closed doors.
Additionally, the first episode of Torchwood noted that the events of Army of Ghosts/Doomsday were both covered-up by Earth's governments and that the public believed it was one massive hallucination -- which would explain why Amy couldn't remember those Daleks. With that explanation, I don't think it fits the OP's pattern with Stolen Earth/Journey's End and the Next Doctor.
About as tired as no one ever noticing 40 fucking years of alien invasions? While the world would've certainly changed more than what we'd seen, I give RTD props for going where other shows were too damn cowardly to go. I'm looking at any show set in a contemporary time period where, no surprise, technologically advanced aliens feel compelled to conduct some sort of "shadow invasion" as if they were on the budget of a t.v. show, instead of out right invasion.
This isn't the 90's, the 80's, the 70's etc, etc. This is the information age, the age of the internet and camera phones. Sorry, but this idea of "secret invasions" is not only a thing of the past, it's an incredibly lame and cliched television concept of the past. I've seen this type of tripe a million times before, not interested in it again.
I haven't always been thrilled with the portrayal of post alien awareness, but I'll take it over the billionth shadow invasion cop-out any day.
At least having the publics memory of the Dalek invasion erased benefits 'Children of Earth' somewhat. It always bugged me that everyone was amazed and shocked by The 456 popping up when a few weeks ago there were Dalek warfleets flying through the sky exterminating people.
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First there is no canon in Doctor Who. I'm sure there is a list of things that writers are not allowed to do (The Doctor cannot be a woman, The Doctor cannot have S&M sex with his companions, The Doctor cannot support the Torries) and an equally long list of things that are unofficially agreed with (you can not bring Adric back as a psychic zombie in control of an army of giant Scorpions, oh wait), but a consistent timeline. Only Earth's past seem sacrosanct. Rigid consistency is not that important for ANY series and as along as Doctor Who tells great stories, it doesn't bother me the Daleks keep coming back from oblivion. Exterminate Baby!!
That's my point of view and that's RTD's point of view since in numerous interviews he has stated publicly that the Moff could do whatever he wanted since he was the show runner.
That's my point of view and that's RTD's point of view since in numerous interviews he has stated publicly that the Moff could do whatever he wanted since he was the show runner.