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Buffy season 8-- MAJOR SPOILERS-- Twilight reveal

FALCONX0N said:
Vampire wins, destruction forever. - -wait a minute, wasn't there some prophecy about Angel, the apocalypse, him causing the ruination of all that is good?

...A prophecy which I fully expect to be ignored. I thought maybe they might make a point about Shanshu, but now I take that back--it's immaterial to this, and they'll try to sweep it under the rug. If it shows up as part of Angel's reasoning I'll be very pleased, but surprised.
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I won't be. I mean there has to be a reason that After the Fall the only Angel material Joss was actually involved in happened to contain the revelation that Angel was responsible for evil winning the apocalypse. It can't be a giant co-inky-dink that Buffy: Season 8 which was running concurrently with AtF just so happened to feature Angel as it's primary villain. IMO Joss used AtF to prop up and support his s8 storyline. If that turns out to not be the case I'll be extremely surprised.
 
Wait a minute though...I was under the impression from reading early interviews regarding Buffy Season Eight and Angel After The Fall/Aftermath that Buffy Season Eight takes place in early 2003/04 and would catch up to 2006 to where the events of Angel After The Fall. The fact that Angel is Twilight in Buffy S8 seems to contradict this...I don't think there's been any mention of Angel or his team prior to this. Perhaps this is the revelation of how Angel became human again? The whole Angel is Twilight thing has thrown me for a loop trying to think about his motivations and angle.
 
Admiral_Young said:
Wait a minute though...I was under the impression from reading early interviews regarding Buffy Season Eight and Angel After The Fall/Aftermath that Buffy Season Eight takes place in early 2003/04 and would catch up to 2006 to where the events of Angel After The Fall. The fact that Angel is Twilight in Buffy S8 seems to contradict this...I don't think there's been any mention of Angel or his team prior to this. Perhaps this is the revelation of how Angel became human again? The whole Angel is Twilight thing has thrown me for a loop trying to think about his motivations and angle.
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The opposite is true. Angel After The Fall starts almost immediately after the events of Don't Fade Away while Buffy takes place a few years after.
 
Nah. The Slayer army was way too vast and organized to have been in place only a month after the fall of Sunnydale. To be honest I always thought it was clear that some time had passed between seasons. I think Joss stated as much in some interviews when s8 was launching.
 
Guys, don't forget that that year where Buffy was rounding up slayers all over the world (i.e. the missing year between Chosen and season 8) happened offscreen during season 5 of Angel.

Chronologicaly, After the Fall ends at about the same moment Don't Fade Away ended. Although all of L.A. remembers them, those months in hell never did happen, technically.
 
^ Exactly my point...that Buffy Season eight would depict the events we didn't see during Angel's final season and catch up to Don't Fade Away. This was my original understanding for both books. I guess I'm wrong.
 
But wait, if S8 started one year after "Chosen" then how come the military was only just then investigating the Sunnydale crater? Shouldn't that have happened really soon after it happened? Or was that whole bit of them lading at the crater a flashback?
 
Buffy's 'Slayer Army' infastructure (or at least part of it) is in place by the events of the ANGEL S5 episode 'The Girl in Question', since she already has someone impersonating her in Rome and dating the Immortal by that point, but that doesn't tell us exactly how long after the events of ANGEL S5 the events of the S8 comics take place, nor does it tell us how long it takes place after the events of the ANGEL ATF/S6 comics, either.
 
Why is everyone calling it Don't Fade Away?
It's Not Fade Away. Sheez



btw Admiral_Young, it's just ATF, the 5-part Aftermath story has nothing to do with anything and also doesn't even exist as it's utter dogshit
 
'The Girl in Question' was the episode of Angel I was thinking about regarding the chronology of Buffy Season Eight/Angel After The Fall. All of this speculation is just further confusing me and making me want answers where it concerns Angel disguising himself as Twilight. It's clear that he hasn't reverted to Angelus (how could he when he's supposed to be human again). All of this is interesting but confusing.
 
After The Fall takes place right after Not Fade Away. The whole three months in Hell-A happened in a blink of an eye, as Wolfram & Hart reverted it all back to them in the alley fight from the episode (yet they still had all the memories.) What's to understand?


And as for the time, Season 8 takes place an unspecified amount of time after Chosen, presumably a few years (it seems around 3 or so. Esp given Dawn and that she was in college when she got supersized)
This was always left purposefully vague as time in the world of comics never flows as time in the world of TV. For example 12 issues of a comic could go by and the whole thing would take place over one night.
ie X-Men started in the 1960s and it looks like the 1960s, its now in 2010 and it looks like 2010, yet 40+ years probably haven't passed for the characters age wise.

It's called "Season 8" but that doesn't mean it occurs over the September-May period a regular season of Buffy would. ie in this case 2003-4, corresponding to Season 5 of Angel.
That's not the case
 
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As I understood it, Buffy Season 8 starts round about where Angel Season 5 ends. As I recall there are a few mentions in the Buffy comics that place Angel & Spike's trip to Italy in the past tense and of course since the events of After the Fall were wound back to the alley, Angel being Twilight shortly afterwards lines up quite well.

As for the excavation of the Sunnydale crater, well it's a HUGE crater and I can easily imagine they're still digging after more than a year.
 
Ethros said:
And as for the time, Season 8 takes place an unspecified amount of time after Chosen, presumably a few years (it seems around 3 or so. Esp given Dawn and that she was in college when she got supersized)
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Dawn was sixteen in Season 7; the average age of a freshman in the Scottish education system, I believe, is eighteen. I think that fits with the idea that Season 8 begins after the events of Angel's final season.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
I know it doesn't take place during the normal television season...we are trying to establish where it takes place within the continuity of the series. I'm pretty sure that I read that Season Eight takes place a few months after the events of 'Chosen" and was meant to catch up to Angel: After The Fall (which I'll admit I haven't had a chance to read yet) which of course everyone has stated took place immediately after the events of 'Not Fade Away' and about a year or so after 'Chosen'. Season Nine is supposedly going to happen after the conclusion of the finale 'Twilight' arc.

According to this wikipedia article season eight takes place 'a couple of years' after the events of 'Chosen' so perhaps in 2005 or 2006. Maybe I've been completely off my rocker and its already taking place alongside Angel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_Season_Eight
 
There have been a few references that preclude S8 taking place right after Angel S5 including, but not limited to, Dawn scratching Buffy's Veronica Mars DVDs.
 
Ethros said:
And as for the time, Season 8 takes place an unspecified amount of time after Chosen, presumably a few years (it seems around 3 or so. Esp given Dawn and that she was in college when she got supersized)
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In the episode with the psycho slayer, Andrew specifically mentioned Dawn going to college. So she got in there pretty soon after Chosen.
 
Ayelbourne said:
Andrew specifically mentioned Dawn going to college.
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Spike- "So, uh...you heard from Buffy lately? "
Andrew- "Yeah. Of course, uh...she's in Rome. Dawn's in school there. Italian school."

I wouldn't call that specific. School. That could still be high school.
And as seen from Season 8 #25, Dawn went to an American college. Not Scottish or Italian.

Reverend said:
As I recall there are a few mentions in the Buffy comics that place Angel & Spike's trip to Italy in the past tense
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Apart from Buffy's mention of Andrew setting up a double of her in Rome in #1, there's been zero mention of that whatsoever. Well, apart from Andrew in #23 saying he's met Angel
 
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