Shatner's 'Trial Run'

[ProwlAlpha]

I wouldn't call him a punk, more of a kid with no father figure or role model. I get that feeling when he asked Spock Prime about his father where SP came from.

Shatner's Kirk seemed like the same Kirk is the Center of the Universe Kirk from all his other books

 

[F. King Daniel]

I thought the characterizations in Collision Course and STXI were very similar (with the obvious exception of George/Joseph Kirk)


The reason I picked it up was some chat show interview with The Shat (which I saw on YouTube), where they showed him the STXI trailer (cue cuts between the trailer and Bill staring blankly) and in between gibes at George Takei he said "Oh, it looks like a book I released a few years ago". I grabbed the book a few days after seeing the film.

Both CC and STXI seem equally nutty (in a good way) to me.

I did think it weird that it contradicted both Avenger (Tarsus IV) and Captain's Peril (where Kirk and Spock only meet at the start of the 5YM). I kept thinking "Where's Kevin Riley?" during the Tarsus IV stuff.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I did think it weird that it contradicted both Avenger (Tarsus IV) and Captain's Peril (where Kirk and Spock only meet at the start of the 5YM). I kept thinking "Where's Kevin Riley?" during the Tarsus IV stuff.

The strongest aspect of the "Totality" trilogy was the series of flashbacks to TOS, so I was pleased when Shatner began to explore the 23rd century again in "Academy: Collision Course". No more SuperKirk & Buddy Picard for a while. But when you've done nine novels in a shared universe, to suddenly make the tenth one conflict with what had come before doesn't assist suspension of disbelief.

 

[Christopher]

So now there's a Prime Shatnerverse and a New Shatnerverse? Oy.

 

[seigezunt]

So now there's a Prime Shatnerverse and a New Shatnerverse? Oy.

Awesome.

One question: how does the book describe George Kirk, or does it? I always liked Diane Carey's imagining of the elder Kirk. Is he even in this?

 

[F. King Daniel]

In Collision Course, Joseph Kirk is described as being tall and intimidating (although he's always described though Kirk's POV, so that may not be entirely accurate). He's always either angry or dissapointed at his kids, and I got the impression he really, really hated his life. I can't remember if he was still with Winona at the time of CC, or if she was in it at all.
It really isn't compatible with Carey's George Kirk Sr. (whom the STXI version was supposedly based on)

 

[Christopher]

William Shatner's father was named Joseph. I would imagine that he based the character of Joseph Kirk on his own father. If Shatner included Kirk's mother in Collision Course, I'd expect he named her after his own mother Anna (or Anne or Ann -- sources differ), rather than going with the name Winona.

 

[F. King Daniel]

^Which begs the question, which of the Shat's kids is mutant hermaphrodite Reman Jesus Joseph based on?

On second thought, I'm not sure I want to know.

 

[Christopher]

^In my head I'm hearing "Mutant Hermaphrodite Reman Jesus, Mutant Hermaphrodite Reman Jesus" to the tune of the old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon theme song. Thanks a lot! ("Jesus power!")

 

[Count Zero]

I really need to read the book with mutant hermaphrodite Reman Jesus in it. Sounds like fun.

 

[F. King Daniel]

"Remans in a half-shell!"

I'll be reading Captain's Glory in a couple of days. I have the strangest feeling Joseph Samuel T'Kol T'Lan Kirk, the Reman Jesus, the Second Shinzon him/herself will have manifested superpowers or something by the time it's all over.

 

[seigezunt]

"Remans in a half-shell!"

I'll be reading Captain's Glory in a couple of days. I have the strangest feeling Joseph Samuel T'Kol T'Lan Kirk, the Reman Jesus, the Second Shinzon him/herself will have manifested superpowers or something by the time it's all over.

Basically. It's a laugh riot.

 

[RookieBatman]

...Captain's Peril (where Kirk and Spock only meet at the start of the 5YM).

This makes me happy. Them not meeting until they were both on the Enterprise is my preferred version of events.

 

[Captain Robert April]

It's possible that Kirk forgot about meeting "Stretch" around fifteen years earlier. "Spock" could be the Vulcan equivalent of "Bill", and Kirk didn't make the connection right away that this Spock is the same Spock that he got in that scrape with, and since it wasn't exactly a banner day for Spock, he wouldn't necessarily be inclined to remind the new captain about the time they both almost wound up in the New Zealand penal colony.

Those of you on facebook, think about it this way: How many friend requests have you gotten from people who you used to be pretty friendly with back in the day, and remember you pretty clearly, but you can barely remember now? Same thing.

 

[elaithin]

Okay, seriously. You say things like that, and you're making such a stink about the new movie? That kind of destroys your credibility.

 

[ProwlAlpha]

I concur

 

[Turtletrekker]

Okay, seriously. You say things like that, and you're making such a stink about the new movie? That kind of destroys your credibility.

What credibility?

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

^In the words of Dr. Sheldon Cooper, "Bazinga!"

 

[RookieBatman]

Okay, seriously. You say things like that, and you're making such a stink about the new movie? That kind of destroys your credibility.

While I think "destroys" might be too strong a term, I think there's some validity to this statement. CRA, as a person who basically shares your antipathy for the movie, can I ask you; Why are you willing to go to such lengths to come up with explanations for things like that, but not STXI?

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Okay, seriously. You say things like that, and you're making such a stink about the new movie? That kind of destroys your credibility.

I concur

I agree as well.