^Sorry, as much as I like a lot of them, no Star Trek movie has ever been deserving of a nomination for Best Picture. Not Khan, not even Trek XI.
SCIFI's best picture...when?
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Part of the problem sometimes is that it's such an elusive category, I mean what's better an apple or an orange? When you take a movie as a whole package it can be tough to really pin down what makes one better than another. Do the performances of some movies and how moving they were outweigh the spectacle and enjoyment of others or do those outweigh the innovation and creativity of others?
I think the problem is that there really just aren't many genre films that take the genre seriously enough to warrant best picture. IMHO, in the last 50 years the only movies not nominated that are good enough to be in the consideration for a best picture nod are:
2001
Alien
Aliens
The Dark Knight
2001
Alien
Aliens
The Dark Knight
Avatar deserved to win this year, but so did Hurt Locker.
Star Wars probably deserved to win. One Lord Of The Rings film did win, so that's one scifi Best Picture right there...please, no one nerd out and pontificate about the supposed "difference" between "scifi" (of all terms) and "fantasy."
Star Wars probably deserved to win. One Lord Of The Rings film did win, so that's one scifi Best Picture right there...please, no one nerd out and pontificate about the supposed "difference" between "scifi" (of all terms) and "fantasy."
Nope. It's not the same.
Otherwise "The Exorcist" and "Tombstone" might qualify as sci-fi.
I'm not sure about Tombstone but there's no reason Exorcist shouldn't be sf/fantasy. It does, however, fit quite neatly into a real and discrete movie genre, that of horror.
But hey, anyone wants to geek about this nonsense feel free- I'll just declare that the LOTR movie qualifies as an sf Best Movie and pass on the "debate."
But hey, anyone wants to geek about this nonsense feel free- I'll just declare that the LOTR movie qualifies as an sf Best Movie and pass on the "debate."
Er, since when is this science-fiction? Last time I checked, it was a dramaticized version of stuff that actually happened.
wow just 4 sci-fi films have ever been nominated? ok what if the list is extended to fantasy films too? that would include Lord of the Rings ROTK & wasnt one of the Indiana Jones films nominated? I guess you could count Exorcist as well.
if the movie had been better recieved I think AI Artificial Intelligence could have had a chance.
Also Moon was completely ignored- that film was just as good as District 9...
if the movie had been better recieved I think AI Artificial Intelligence could have had a chance.
Also Moon was completely ignored- that film was just as good as District 9...
I didn't include Fantasy films as we're talking about Science Fiction specifically here. There are "supernatural" films like The Sixth Sense which have picked up nominations as well.
CE3K, 2001, or The Andromeda Strain.
Doesn't "A Clockwork Orange" count as science fiction?
Maybe Inception????
As to what should have won or at least nominated, I would vote for Star Wars as well along with Back to the Future, the Matrix, Children of Men, Dark City, Gattaca, Close Encounters, E.T., Blade Runner, Wall-E and the Dark Knight.
I would say so. That makes five. Still not a very long list...
RobertScorpio
Pariah
And of the now five movies that qualified..I still go with my original OP...Star Wars was the most worthy of them all to win....IMO..
Rob
Return Of The King already has.
There's no freaking way "Star Wars" deserved best picture. It should be honoured just to be nominated. It may have been influential and had really cool visuals, but "Annie Hall" was one of the smartest, funniest, sweetest, most insightful romantic comedies ever, from back before romantic comedy became synonymous with lazy, formulaic pablum for the masses.
"2001: A Space Odyssey" winning would have been cool. I haven't seen the movie that won best picture for 1968 ("Oliver!"), and I bet many here haven't either. Clearly not as much of an influence as 2001 was. I'm never disappointed when epic sci-fi movies lose to smaller, more thoughtful movies with sharp writing and moving human stories. I love "Alien", but I wouldn't say it was 'robbed' by "Kramer vs. Kramer", which is beautiful. "Back to the Future" winning over "Out of Africa" might have been neat. It's a rare combination of a movie that has sci-fi/action elements, but at the same time is exceptionally sweet and touching. Bummer that it wasn't even nominated.
"The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951) was pure class. It was worthy of a best picture nomination too. I agree with the sci-fi list posted about "Bride of Frankenstein" and "Metropolis". Those are the two best movies of the 20s and 30s that I've seen and "Bride of Frankenstein" was one of the biggest influences over me seeking out older movies in the first place since I was so blown away that a movie so old could be so amazing. Also, I definitely liked "Dark City" more than "Shakespeare in Love" and "Terminator 2" better than "The Silence of the Lambs" (although I liked that movie as well).
"2001: A Space Odyssey" winning would have been cool. I haven't seen the movie that won best picture for 1968 ("Oliver!"), and I bet many here haven't either. Clearly not as much of an influence as 2001 was. I'm never disappointed when epic sci-fi movies lose to smaller, more thoughtful movies with sharp writing and moving human stories. I love "Alien", but I wouldn't say it was 'robbed' by "Kramer vs. Kramer", which is beautiful. "Back to the Future" winning over "Out of Africa" might have been neat. It's a rare combination of a movie that has sci-fi/action elements, but at the same time is exceptionally sweet and touching. Bummer that it wasn't even nominated.
"The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951) was pure class. It was worthy of a best picture nomination too. I agree with the sci-fi list posted about "Bride of Frankenstein" and "Metropolis". Those are the two best movies of the 20s and 30s that I've seen and "Bride of Frankenstein" was one of the biggest influences over me seeking out older movies in the first place since I was so blown away that a movie so old could be so amazing. Also, I definitely liked "Dark City" more than "Shakespeare in Love" and "Terminator 2" better than "The Silence of the Lambs" (although I liked that movie as well).
Dusty Ayres
Commodore
Thanks.
It covers the same thematic ground as a sci-fi picture (the conquest of space) and it was featured in Starlog twice, so yeah, it belongs there. Just like Capricorn One also belongs there.
Oh well, it doesn't matter: we've got the Saturn Awards, as well as the Hugos, and the MTV Movie Awards for Avatar and other sci-fi movies to win.
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