startrekrcks
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Yes Shatner's Kirk is hot, hot love the pics of him
Kirk/William Shatner Apprecation Thread
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startrekrcks
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Yes he will always will be Captain James T Kirk just watched The Apple how good Bill Shatner was and in the other episodes as well. I am not saying that I don't like Chris Pine's Kirk I love him as well hope that doesn't annoy you that is my opinion.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
Well what would you like Pine's Kirk to do improve over the sequels just wondering.
Isn't this the Kirk/Shatner appreciation thread and not what's Pine gotta do to earn our love?
That said new actors can eclipse previous favourites in the eyes of some although never usually all. Most everyone remembers Christopher Reeve as their favourite Superman while there are still some old fogies (me included) who still prefer George Reeves' portrayal. I rather liked Michael Keaton's portrayal of Batman, but I gotta say that Christian Bale is better (except for the growling voice). Sean Connery is still the definitive Bond for many even though some have preferred later actors. Yet in Casino Royale I gotta admit that I was very impressed with Daniel Craig to the point of putting him on par with Connery.
Pine is never going to be Shatner's Kirk and I suspect from the performance I saw he's not trying to be, and good for him on that. In this I think the actors who did best in the Abrams' movie were those who weren't trying to mimic or overtly channel the original portrayals. Carl Urban's portrayal of McCoy seemed like he was trying just a bit too hard to channel Deforest Kelley. This isn't TOS so you might as well make it your own.
Of course I'm speaking from the technical aspect of their performances. As to whether I liked how the characters were portrayed is another thing. Scotty's portrayal was okay in light that he's supposed to be a younger version of our original Mr. Scott. Chekov was played for a joke primarily because the accent was too pronounced, even more so than Walter Koenig's. For me Sulu came off as neither here nor there. Quinto's Spock is never going to be Nimoy's Spock and I suppose that's a good thing, but I like Nimoy's Spock as a person and I don't much care for Quinto's at this point. Compared to Nichelle Nichols' Uhura Zoe Seldana's portrayal was another person I didn't like.
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startrekrcks
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Oh sorry hardcore Trek purist
What do you expect? This thread isn't about what Pine has to do to earn everyone's love. It's about appreciating Shatner's Kirk. If you want to discuss the merits of Pine's portrayal then do so in an appropriate thread.
And as for being a TOS purist, well DUH! There is only one original series and it will always be that way. You can have films and novels and TV series set in the TOS era (supposedly), but there will never again be another original series simply because it was first. You gotta be the first to be the original.
And for the record--in the slightest chance no one here knows this already--there isn't a damned thing Pine can do to earn my love for his portrayal of Kirk. I might at some point respect his efforts, but I ain't never gonna accept him as the the Captain James T. Kirk. That ship has sailed.
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startrekrcks
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Ok do you think I am being obsessed with everything about NuTrek sorry it's just how I feel about it ok anyway Shatner's Kirk is great do you think I don't appreciate him?
I don't know i never really got ask that question, but maybe improve his immaturity if that make since, pine portray kirk as rebel, bad boy, loner, i would say improve more of sensitivity to the character but not to sensitive.
The word is "regardless." Irregardless isn't a word, but I get your meaning.
Origin stories and prequels are in these days so why should Trek be immune.
With TOS' popularity it was inevitable that the familiar characters would be recast for stories set in the TOS era simply because the original cast are either too old or no longer with us, even if it hadn't been a prequel.
Did anybody watch the closing cermony for the Winnter Olympics? If you did, Shatner made an apperance there. I watched and thought he was great. He also mettioned Star Trek refereance in there if you can guess what it was. I know what it was but I'm keeping it a seceret.
You have to remember that in this Trek timeline things are indeed different..so J.J. Abrams was trying to portray Pine's Kirk as being some sort of a pompous jerk, as opposed to Shatner's Kirk.
I think that Shatner was the mere reason Star Trek became the way it was. When I was a child, I really loved William Shatner to the point that I had dreams about him. I must share that I have four of the best pictures hanging in my room-one is a pic of William Shatner as Kirk autographed, another with Leonard Nimoy as Spock autographed, a Cast pic stamp collection picture, and lastly my most favorite treasured possession-an autographed picture of the entire cast of Trek from the Fourth movie.
I treasure them all. Dad got all of those for me..two for Christmas, one for V-day(which was a total shock cause he hung it in my room when I was @ school and surprised me with it later on at home!) and another just as a gift.To all who have met Shatner: you are very lucky! I'd give my right arm to meet him and can't believe he's gonna be 79 this year! WOW! I feel OLD!
So what? And that is the excuse that is supposed to make us like him?
No, you don't have to like him. You're free to make your own choices in this lifetime. It's America for crying out loud! I'm just saying that you have to remember about the timeline being a bit different than the regular Trek timeline as we know it. He's gonna be a bit darker and more pompous in the new Trek movie. Like Shatner or not, though he made Trek what it is today. And he'll remain an icon in my eyes for many years to come.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
noo...but it made my daughter and her 16 year old friends like "Kirk" more, which was really the point.
And I am not sure what 'captain' kirk you saw shatner doing, all those years ago, but he is pompous at times. How many times did the women recount the days they had broken up with him and he gives them that little 'huh' look of his...
And I guess you didn't see the KIRK of TMP. That guy had a stick so far up his ass he was nearly as tall as nimoy...
Rob
startrekrcks
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why are we bringing up Chris Pine's Kirk into this thread for
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