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Is Deckard a Replicant?

Harvey

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I asked a familiar question (perhaps it is the familiar question) about Blade Runner in another thread: is Rick Deckard a Replicant? It seems to me that it’s been a while since a thread has covered this topic or even the film in general. So, I figure, why not beat the dead horse a few more times…

If you haven’t seen Blade Runner, spoilers will most certainly be ahead. More importantly, if you haven't seen Blade Runner, it's definitely worth seeing at least once.

It’s always made sense to me that Deckard is a Replicant, so I’ll be making that argument, but I’m certainly curious to find out how other posters here answer the question (if they indeed answer it) even if you think Deckard being a Replicant is a crock.

There are two pieces of direct evidence supporting this conclusion in the film, at least in the Final Cut. Speaking of which, for the purposes of simplicity, let’s assume there are only two different versions of the film (the 1982 Theatrical Release and the 2007 Final Cut), since the other versions out there have their major difference on technical grounds, not creative differences.

(1) The Unicorn Dream: During the film, Deckard has a private moment at his piano where he daydreams about a unicorn. At the end of the film, Deckard finds an origami unicorn left by Gaff at his apartment, suggesting Gaff was privy to Deckard’s most private thoughts. Note that the unicorn dream was deleted from the Theatrical Release at the insistence of the producers (among many other changes less relevant to the topic at hand), though it was filmed in 1982 for Blade Runner, not filmed later for Legend or exclusively for the director’s preferred version.

(2) The Replicant’s glowing eyes: Throughout the film, Replicants are shown to have glowing eyes. This can be seen with Rachel when she takes the VK Test, with Batty when he approaches his maker (“I want more life, fucker”), and of course with Tyrell’s artificial owl seen in both of these scenes. During one scene which Deckard and Rachel share in his apartment, the eyes of both Deckard and Rachel glow. According to the book Future Noir: the Making of Blade Runner, this was no happy accident, but intentional, with Deckard place slightly out of focus and in the background in order to make the point as subtle as possible. Here’s an image of the shot in question.

In addition, there’s several pieces of circumstantial evidence which support the theory that Deckard is a Replicant.

(1) Deckard, like the Replicants (both Leon and Rachel), has a wide array of personal photographs reminding him of his history.

(2) At the end of the film, Gaff says to Deckard, “you’ve done a man’s job, sir.” Though not included in any release of the film, a deleted portion of dialogue (which was filmed and can be seen on the DVD) continued, “But are you sure you are man? It's hard to be sure who's who around here.” Even ignoring that, the double meaning of the retained dialogue (found in all versions of the film) is obvious.

(3) When asked by Rachel if he’s taken the VK-Test himself, Deckard has no answer.

In that other thread I mentioned before, stj proposed that Deckard being a Replicant not only undercuts the film's themes, but renders it without a discernable meaning. I don't think that's true, but I'll tackle those questions later, if there's any interest in this thread. I've already written far too much to be worth slogging through, I'm sure.
 
I agree as well - Although it is interesting that so many people involved in the production has such different opinions. Although it seems to have been Ridley Scott's intention, so that counts for a lot. :)
 
Harrison Ford says he isn't, and I believe him. Who better to know a character than the actor who played him?

So? He only got the script, and interpreted the character for himself. Which is his job, of course.

But if you pay attention to all the hints that Scott drops throughout the film (and removed dialog/scenes), it becomes pretty clear. Even if Ford never picked up on those hints. ;)
 
I think that this is a case of the question being more illuminating than the answer. If he is, so what? If he isn't, so what? The interesting thing is why the question gets asked in the first place - and the reason we ask is his sense of alienation, the gloominess of his surroundings, his misgivings about his job, etc. And then we realize that in the film's context, the real question is whether humanity has been corrupted so such an extent that there's any real difference between people and robots at all.
 
Harrison Ford says he isn't, and I believe him. Who better to know a character than the actor who played him?

The writer should be the person who knows the most about the character. In movies, the director sometimes trumps the writer (due to how power works in the movie biz). But actors just interpret the character they are given; they don't create any character unless it's improv.

Why Scott would leave an actor in the dark about his character is anybody's guess. But if Scott decided that Deckard doesn't know he's a replicant, maybe he figured it would be best if Ford didn't know either. (Doesn't show much faith in Ford's acting ability, but oh well.)

I think Scott's real intent was to be so vague about the issue that we'll keep asking the question decades after the movie was made. :D
 
Yes, Deckard is a replicant. I've never really understood the point, but it's there.

I do think it hurts the films themes slightly, but it still works. It makes the movie more mysterious.
 
Harrison Ford says he isn't, and I believe him. Who better to know a character than the actor who played him?

So? He only got the script, and interpreted the character for himself. Which is his job, of course.

But if you pay attention to all the hints that Scott drops throughout the film (and removed dialog/scenes), it becomes pretty clear. Even if Ford never picked up on those hints. ;)

I don't know if we should be counting stuff that was removed.
 
Harrison Ford says he isn't, and I believe him. Who better to know a character than the actor who played him?

So? He only got the script, and interpreted the character for himself. Which is his job, of course.

But if you pay attention to all the hints that Scott drops throughout the film (and removed dialog/scenes), it becomes pretty clear. Even if Ford never picked up on those hints. ;)

I don't know if we should be counting stuff that was removed.

Actually it'd depend on which movie you watched.... arn't there several versions.... 3 or 4... the original... extended... I saw one called blade runner final cut.... does anybody know how many flavors of blade runner are out there?
 
If Deckard is a replicant, doesn't this mean he's going to burn himself out and die? I thought all replicants had limited lifespans.
 
I don't think it is clear one way or the other. Both the movie(s) and original book both leave it unclear. I think the book leans more towards human and the movie version more towards being a replicant.
 
I don't think it is clear one way or the other. Both the movie(s) and original book both leave it unclear. I think the book leans more towards human and the movie version more towards being a replicant.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? confirms Rick Deckard as human without any wiggle room.

Though this has no real bearing on the film.
 
If Deckard is a replicant, doesn't this mean he's going to burn himself out and die? I thought all replicants had limited lifespans.

And? It has no implication about his replicant status. Perhaps he just wants to life out the short life he has in the best way possible.
 
I don't think it is clear one way or the other. Both the movie(s) and original book both leave it unclear. I think the book leans more towards human and the movie version more towards being a replicant.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? confirms Rick Deckard as human without any wiggle room.

Though this has no real bearing on the film.

Yeah it is a very loose adaptation, for sure... More "inspired by".
 
I don't think it is clear one way or the other. Both the movie(s) and original book both leave it unclear. I think the book leans more towards human and the movie version more towards being a replicant.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? confirms Rick Deckard as human without any wiggle room.

Though this has no real bearing on the film.

Yeah it is a very loose adaptation, for sure... More "inspired by".

:techman:
 
What about the sequel novels?

In regards to what? The sequel novels where written well after the film was made. I haven't read them, but from what I've read about them they play fast and loose with the continuity of both the film and the first book, sort of like Clarke's 2010, only more insane (and obviously with a different author's prose).
 
In Dick's original, Deckard is human. IIRC, he takes the VK test and it proves he is human.

I'm not sure what the K.W. Jeter books decided upon, but it's important to know that they were written after Dick's death, after the film had come and gone, and that they don't follow either the film or the book in direct continuity. They're really their own animal and have earned mixed reviews. Some (all?) of them are out of print, and I haven't had the chance to read them, nor, honestly, much of a desire to.
 
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