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Which series had the best finale episode?
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Obviously this has been dormant for a little while, but I've just re-watched What You Leave Behind for the first time in ages...
Endgame is okayish as a Voyager episode, but as a finale? No. The future stuff is too close to TNG's finale and the "Oh, we're home! Roll credits!" ending was unsatisfying. It also had some really bad dialogue. That said, I did love Alice Krige here, in fact I thought she was better than in First Contact.
What You Leave Behind is a strong finale. Stock footage notwithstanding, the big battle was exciting, as were the scenes on Cardassia. It also did a pretty nice job of giving the viewer closure as regards the characters, with nice moments such as Odo and Kira's goodbye, Ezri watching Worf leave etc. The flashbacks were pleasant if predictable, although, whatever the real world reasons, Worf having flashbacks without Jadzia appearing came off as weird. Alas, I really didn't like the Sisko/Dukat/Pah Wraiths stuff which felt out of place and tacked-on. The final showdown was unsatisfying and I thought Sisko had the worst ending of any of the regulars. Overall, it's very good, but it's not great.
All Good Things... has to get my vote as the best finale, even though I lean towards preferring DS9 as a series. There's something very fitting about the show ending this way - Q posing one last test for Picard. Also, unlike in Voyager's finale, I really loved the future stuff here, possibly because I just care more about these characters, but I also thought it was simply better executed. The way Picard moves between time periods like a regular Billy Pilgrim gave the episode an excellent structure and flow as well. It's a very satisfying ending, maybe even a little iconic and in my opinion it's the only truly great Trek finale (that I've seen anyway).
Endgame is okayish as a Voyager episode, but as a finale? No. The future stuff is too close to TNG's finale and the "Oh, we're home! Roll credits!" ending was unsatisfying. It also had some really bad dialogue. That said, I did love Alice Krige here, in fact I thought she was better than in First Contact.
What You Leave Behind is a strong finale. Stock footage notwithstanding, the big battle was exciting, as were the scenes on Cardassia. It also did a pretty nice job of giving the viewer closure as regards the characters, with nice moments such as Odo and Kira's goodbye, Ezri watching Worf leave etc. The flashbacks were pleasant if predictable, although, whatever the real world reasons, Worf having flashbacks without Jadzia appearing came off as weird. Alas, I really didn't like the Sisko/Dukat/Pah Wraiths stuff which felt out of place and tacked-on. The final showdown was unsatisfying and I thought Sisko had the worst ending of any of the regulars. Overall, it's very good, but it's not great.
All Good Things... has to get my vote as the best finale, even though I lean towards preferring DS9 as a series. There's something very fitting about the show ending this way - Q posing one last test for Picard. Also, unlike in Voyager's finale, I really loved the future stuff here, possibly because I just care more about these characters, but I also thought it was simply better executed. The way Picard moves between time periods like a regular Billy Pilgrim gave the episode an excellent structure and flow as well. It's a very satisfying ending, maybe even a little iconic and in my opinion it's the only truly great Trek finale (that I've seen anyway).
My favorite finale is ENT's Demons/Terra Prime. I don't hate TATV either, but compared to the wonderful 4th season it was rather mediocre.
DS9 was okay, I'm glad Dukat got what was coming to him, but it would have been much better if it hadn't been for Farrell's royalty issues. Really felt like there was something major missing.
VOY's Endgame's dissatisfactory, since we don't learn what happens to the crew after they get home.
TNG's All Good Things was a reasonably good episode, but it didn't feel like a finale to me. No closure.
I can barely bring myself to mention the abomination that was Turnabout Intruder.
DS9 was okay, I'm glad Dukat got what was coming to him, but it would have been much better if it hadn't been for Farrell's royalty issues. Really felt like there was something major missing.
VOY's Endgame's dissatisfactory, since we don't learn what happens to the crew after they get home.
TNG's All Good Things was a reasonably good episode, but it didn't feel like a finale to me. No closure.
I can barely bring myself to mention the abomination that was Turnabout Intruder.
DonnyBaker
Lieutenant
I have always loved the ending to Enterprise. Just because it was the END...
I thought that TNG had the bestending. Then DS9, Voy and Ent equal. TOS never had an ending, they plled the plug and that was it, would've have been interesting to how they would have closed it given the chance.
TNG's. It just summed up the brilliance that was TNG for me. I liked them all apart from TOS and ENT. ENT was just poor by any measure, TOS was ok as a standalone episode but not for a series finale. However it did get cancelled so it can be excused.
Turnabout Intruder was never one of my favourite TOS episodes, but they got cancelled, so it wasn't really their fault. What can you do? I consider TUC the true sendoff for TOS. 'All Our Yesterdays' should have been aired as the finale in retrospect.
TNG's finale was great. I loved seeing the various eras of the crew, and it was nice to see Tasha, Miles O' Brien, and Q again. There was a bit of technobabble, but overall it was a successful sendoff, and probably better than the TNG movies that followed, too.
DS9's finale, despite the stock footage, was quite good too. The clips of the earlier seasons during the farewells shouldn't have worked, but somehow it did.
VOY's was a letdown. I mean, the episode was OK, but not as a finale. We should have seen what they did after they got back to Earth. The future scenes felt too similar to 'All Good Things'.
ENT's final episode should not have been the final episode. I wouldn't have minded it if it aired somewhere in the middle of the season (without a certain death scene, of course), but NOT a finale. Demons/ Terra Prime should have been the finale. Also, if they really had to do a 'full circle' thing, why not use the Constitution sets they already had from In A Mirror Darkly, and do a TOS homage? They didn't have to character assassinate both ENT and TNG's characters. It was infamously meant to be a 'valentine to the fans' but it was more of an 'F you' to the fans.
TNG's finale was great. I loved seeing the various eras of the crew, and it was nice to see Tasha, Miles O' Brien, and Q again. There was a bit of technobabble, but overall it was a successful sendoff, and probably better than the TNG movies that followed, too.
DS9's finale, despite the stock footage, was quite good too. The clips of the earlier seasons during the farewells shouldn't have worked, but somehow it did.
VOY's was a letdown. I mean, the episode was OK, but not as a finale. We should have seen what they did after they got back to Earth. The future scenes felt too similar to 'All Good Things'.
ENT's final episode should not have been the final episode. I wouldn't have minded it if it aired somewhere in the middle of the season (without a certain death scene, of course), but NOT a finale. Demons/ Terra Prime should have been the finale. Also, if they really had to do a 'full circle' thing, why not use the Constitution sets they already had from In A Mirror Darkly, and do a TOS homage? They didn't have to character assassinate both ENT and TNG's characters. It was infamously meant to be a 'valentine to the fans' but it was more of an 'F you' to the fans.
TATV, the single greatest episode of Star Trek in history.
Okay, just kidding, but come on, that episode did kill Trip, it deserves honorable mention for THAT at least.
It's too bad you can't vote for more than one. I love TNG and DS9 equally and thought both their finales were excellent.
Okay, just kidding, but come on, that episode did kill Trip, it deserves honorable mention for THAT at least.
It's too bad you can't vote for more than one. I love TNG and DS9 equally and thought both their finales were excellent.
Sometimes I think they kept using all the wrong episodes for the finales..
DS9 is my all time favorite of the series, but I give a slight edge to TNG for best ending.
I liked how they showed Data as he first came aboard, and bringing back Tasha. And how every one had changed in the future. The last scene, where they're playing cards, sealed it.
However, I think it would have been a great idea to use the first movie as an idea for the series finale.
The ending scene from that movie would have made a great ending for the series.
DS9 I loved the action and continuing storyline, but some aspects struck me as comic-bookish.
I mean really comic bookish! Magic books, alien beings who want to "conquer the entire galaxy" (why not the whole universe?) the chosen one against their chosen one..wheeeeewww..
One problem with "Endgame", is that they start the episode by revealing that they finally made it home, thereby ruining the suspense.
We knew they were going to make it home anyway, but watching it play out, (with a good plot) would have created great suspense if done the right way.
Like TNG, there was too much techno babble to begin with..
I would have liked a simple plot, little techno babble and time travel plots..
Still, once you get attached the crew, (if you do), you'll probably find something that you'll like from any of the finales I think...
DS9 is my all time favorite of the series, but I give a slight edge to TNG for best ending.
I liked how they showed Data as he first came aboard, and bringing back Tasha. And how every one had changed in the future. The last scene, where they're playing cards, sealed it.
However, I think it would have been a great idea to use the first movie as an idea for the series finale.
The ending scene from that movie would have made a great ending for the series.
DS9 I loved the action and continuing storyline, but some aspects struck me as comic-bookish.
I mean really comic bookish! Magic books, alien beings who want to "conquer the entire galaxy" (why not the whole universe?) the chosen one against their chosen one..wheeeeewww..
One problem with "Endgame", is that they start the episode by revealing that they finally made it home, thereby ruining the suspense.
We knew they were going to make it home anyway, but watching it play out, (with a good plot) would have created great suspense if done the right way.
Like TNG, there was too much techno babble to begin with..
I would have liked a simple plot, little techno babble and time travel plots..
Still, once you get attached the crew, (if you do), you'll probably find something that you'll like from any of the finales I think...
Except for "These Are the Voyages". You're all the less likely to find something you like there if you have actually gotten attached to the crew of ENT.
Garm Bel Iblis
Commodore
i voted for TATV just for the last 47 seconds of the episode.
The poker game in AGT is one of the most emotional scenes in al of trek for me. Beyond spock dying, beyond all of that.the captain, seeing a glimpse of what COULD be decides to make things right and warm up to his crew, his family, as he will come to think of them. He shuffles the cards andsays "Skies the limit" and you no the adventures will continue we just won't be there to see them
Endgame was just a “Quick, fire everything! Borg, time travel, ironic plot twist that reminds of “Caretaker” and then we’ll get home and enter Earth orbit and ROLL CREDITS! I’m sorry, it wasn’t JUST about the journey. For 7 years we watched people try to get home and see their families again and we were not given that moment.
TATV, hated the ep, everyone was out of character, but the last 47 seconds put the bookend to the series of shows that had the Enterprise…we knew after 700 hours we’d not being seeing any starships to bear the name Enterprise for years to come…
DS9. Loved it. But it’s so damned FINAL. Odo, Worf, O’Brien, Sisko, GONE. I wish they had ended the with the crew together at Quark’s around the dabo table or ended the series at Vic’s. I don’t know, I just wish they had all been together at the end.
The poker game in AGT is one of the most emotional scenes in al of trek for me. Beyond spock dying, beyond all of that.the captain, seeing a glimpse of what COULD be decides to make things right and warm up to his crew, his family, as he will come to think of them. He shuffles the cards andsays "Skies the limit" and you no the adventures will continue we just won't be there to see them
Endgame was just a “Quick, fire everything! Borg, time travel, ironic plot twist that reminds of “Caretaker” and then we’ll get home and enter Earth orbit and ROLL CREDITS! I’m sorry, it wasn’t JUST about the journey. For 7 years we watched people try to get home and see their families again and we were not given that moment.
TATV, hated the ep, everyone was out of character, but the last 47 seconds put the bookend to the series of shows that had the Enterprise…we knew after 700 hours we’d not being seeing any starships to bear the name Enterprise for years to come…
DS9. Loved it. But it’s so damned FINAL. Odo, Worf, O’Brien, Sisko, GONE. I wish they had ended the with the crew together at Quark’s around the dabo table or ended the series at Vic’s. I don’t know, I just wish they had all been together at the end.
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