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Lost Season 6 Premiere: "LA X"

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MAN!!! PHENOMENAL EPISODE! oh my god! Great way to kick things off.

Maybe we can start calling this "What if? Alternate Timeline" Flashsideways! haha

i need to sleep on this and let it sink in some more before i give my input, but wow i am in awe! holy shit!

Anybody else think that one guy looked like John Lennon?
 
LA X could mean that LA is now crossed of the list of things they (TPTB) wanted/had to do.
X could also stand for a cross, maybe even a crossing, as the people still met each other anyway. Hmmm.

It was fucking fantastic to see new Lost again, but it baffled me, that we only got 81 minutes instead of 89 or even 90 minutes.

Now the real waiting begins. I mean waiting 8 months for new Lost episodes is nothing compared to 7 days. You know what I mean?
 
The bit about Desmond being on the plane was a real head-scratcher.

However... if the island is underwater, Desmond never gets shipwrecked - or hell, there is no "race"... so he's off in the world now, and maybe by coincidence happens to be on this flight?

OMG something just occured to me... THERE IS NO PENNY!!! Charles Widmore DIED when (if?) the island sank from the NUKE... no Penny, no "little Charlie"... damn you Jack, you messed with the sacred Des/Pen romance!

Check out this relevant quote from Damon in the EW interview:
LINDELOF: Right out of the gate, in the first five minutes of the premiere, you get hit over the head with two things that you’re not expecting. The first is that Desmond is on the plane. The second thing that we do is we drop out of the plane and we go below the water and we see that the Island is submerged. What we’re trying to do there is basically say to you, “God bless the survivors of Oceanic 815, because they’re so self-centered, they thought the only effect [of detonating the bomb] was going to be that their plane never crashes.” But they don’t stop to think, “If we do this in 1977, what else is going to affected by this?” So that their entire lives can be changed radically. In fact, it would appear that they’ve sunken the Island. That’s our way of saying, “Keep your eyes peeled for the differences that you’re not expecting.” Some of these characters were still in Australia, but some weren’t. Shannon’s not there. Boone actually says that he tried to get her back. There are all sorts of other people that we don’t see. Where’s Libby? Where’s Ana Lucia? Where’s Eko? These are all the things that you’re supposed to be thinking about. When our characters posited the “What if?” scenario, they neglected to think about what the other effects of potentially changing time might be and we’re embracing those things.
 
Top-Notch episode, one of the best. I'm looking forward to a great season.

A couple interesting things I noted about the Alt Timeline:

- Hurley doesn't seem to have his bad luck at all. In fact, as seen when he was waiting for a taxi in Pt 2, he seems fully vested in his fortune and making more of it. That being said, why then was he in Australia at all, since his trip to see Sam Toomey was based solely on his need to uncover the truth of the numbers and his bad luck?

- Shannon's absence from flight 815 seems to suggest that she never came to see Boone at the hotel, and thus Boone and Shannon made with the Love. Way to go Boone, you dodged a bullet there... have yourself a nice, bat-shit-crazy-blonde-less life!

- Arnzt recognised Hurley as a millionare, how is it that he never regognised him as one on the island?

- Desmond showed up on the plane and then promtley disappeared from it. Does this mean that he is jumping through time again?

- Sawyer seems to be lacking a certain ammount of guilt while on 815, does this mean he never killed the fake-Sawyer? It would track with the whole Good Vibe of the LA X timeline.

And in the "Present Day" timeline.

- Keeping in mind what Richard said last Season about Little Ben being different after he was taken to the Temple, does Sayid's resurrection mean that he is now also different. And given the importanace placed on his survivial, does this mean that he is going to become a vessal or proxy for Jacob?
 
i wonder why? She doing Taken 2 or something?
I dun remember where I read it so consider it a rumor, but i heard Harold Parineau and Cynthia Watros will be back at some point this season, but the kid who played Walt will not be.

So i guess this Lazarus Chamber brought young Ben back. I wonder if Sayid will come back soul-less too. Or are things different now, since the water was yellow and not clear.
 
Considering Desmond was only there for about 30 seconds and then vanished, I have a feeling he was NOT really on that flight. I have a feeling Desmond is up to his old time-jumping (and now universe-jumping?) tricks. The Island isn't finished with him.
 
Considering Desmond was only there for about 30 seconds and then vanished, I have a feeling he was NOT really on that flight. I have a feeling Desmond is up to his old time-jumping (and now universe-jumping?) tricks. The Island isn't finished with him.

yea like one of the many timelines or universes that he jumped to when the hatch blew up.
 
Yeah, but somehow I wouldn't be surprised if he knew what was happening. Part of me thinks he was checking up on Jack to see what was going on with him and the rest of the passengers on 815.
 
well i wish i had that ability. so i can teleport myself forward to the next 15 tuesdays. Damn you Hiro Nakimura!
 
Well, you don't.

I wish I had never started watching LOST until every season was out on DVD, but we can't all get what we want.
 
I guess I'm the lone "average" voter.

I thought the episode was good, but not excellent. Something just felt off to me. Maybe it was too rushed? I did love Jack & Locke's scene at the end. I Liked the stuff with Locke & the Smoke Monster. But I felt the time spent digging up Juliette and then to have her die was a waste, since we already expected her to be dead. I would have been just as happy (well "sad") if as everyone was leaving to take Sayid to the Temple the camera had swooped down under the ground and we saw Juliette buried under the rubble, undiscovered and dying alone.

I'm not sure why everyone was so shocked by the temple. They have been talking about it since season 3 as it being the main safe haven of the Others. We learned last year when NotLocke took Ben to the wall (for his judgment by the smoke monster) that the temple was just passed the wall, but that "they weren't going there."

My question is that back in the 1980's when the french team was there, the smoke monster still lived in/at the wall. And even a few days ago (in Lost time) NotLocke took Ben there to be judged by the Smoke Monster, but why would the smoke monster hang out so close to the Temple where it's enemies were/are? Why would the others stay at the temple is the Smoke Monsters lair was right down that passage leading to their base since they obviously don't like him/it?

I like how the ash keeps Smokie out, so Jacob must have surrounded the cabin with ash to keep smokie from getting inside, but then the ash circle was broken so smokie must have been able to get into it and use it to trick Ben/Locke, etc... to do what he wanted, maybe by pretending to be jacob?
 
My question is that back in the 1980's when the french team was there, the smoke monster still lived in/at the wall. And even a few days ago (in Lost time) NotLocke took Ben there to be judged by the Smoke Monster, but why would the smoke monster hang out so close to the Temple where it's enemies were/are? Why would the others stay at the temple is the Smoke Monsters lair was right down that passage leading to their base since they obviously don't like him/it?

My guess is that the Smoke Monster wasn't really a threat before. Smokey and Jacob balanced each other out, and The Others probably felt safe because of that balance. It wasn't until they learned that Jacob had died that they suddenly because afraid.
 
My question is that back in the 1980's when the french team was there, the smoke monster still lived in/at the wall. And even a few days ago (in Lost time) NotLocke took Ben there to be judged by the Smoke Monster, but why would the smoke monster hang out so close to the Temple where it's enemies were/are? Why would the others stay at the temple is the Smoke Monsters lair was right down that passage leading to their base since they obviously don't like him/it?

My guess is that the Smoke Monster wasn't really a threat before. Smokey and Jacob balanced each other out, and The Others probably felt safe because of that balance. It wasn't until they learned that Jacob had died that they suddenly because afraid.

Good point. But the Others also kept up the sonic fence to keep Smokie out, which they wouldn't have to do if Jacob was protecting them from it. Maybe Jacob only protected the Temple and not the rest of the Island? Maybe that is why the Temple was a safe place for the Other's but the ex-dharma compound was not?

But then Ben must have also thought that Smokie was something else, maybe something neutral on the island? Because he was willing to be judged by it, he called it to take out the merc's who killed his daughter, yet when he found out NotLocke was also Smokie he was scared.

Also Smokie did not know where Jacob was, he had to get Richard to show him the way, so maybe Smokie doesn't have full run of the island?
 
I like how it only took Smokey a couple seconds to figure out how to deal with the guy who protected himself in the circle. Sort of like the scene from Spider-Man 2 where the train crowd says Doc Ock has to go through them to get to Spidey and Ock pushes them aside without breaking a sweat.
 
just got done watching the Cuse/Lindelof interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live and they announced that May 23rd will be the series finale date and will be on a sunday. Also somewhat said that notLocke is not necessarily the Man in Black. Either smokie and I'm gonna still call him Esau, but Esau are 2 separate entities or I misinterpreted what they said, check the interview out on youtube when it comes available and see for yourselves. Oh yeah they also hope to have Maggie Grace back at some point.
 
Maybe the Smoke Monster is NotLocke's pet.

Seriously, we need an official name to give this guy. We're approaching BSG territory here. :lol:
 
Anybody else recognize David H Lawrence aka the puppet master from heroes, for those who still watch it, as the cab driver?
 
Are we frellin' there yet?
Yes we are, and I think this had to be the weirdest episode of Lost to date. Anyone agree? Of course you do. It was weird.

Totally agree. To the point where I'm feeling lost (no pun intended.)

I haven't read all the comments in this thread yet, so maybe somebody will make a comment that changes my mind a little, but I'm sitting here this morning thinking about the show. And for some reason, it just seems so disconnected from previous seasons. Same actors, same characters, but it just feels so different to the point of me not really being all that excited about it last night. Maybe as the season wears on, I'll get more into it. Right now, I just want it to be over.
 
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