WoW - Musings & Discussion

[AnyStar]

^ what privacy? you sign away any rights you have to anything concerning the game to even get access to it, not only that but every action you take is taken on BLIZZARDs SERVERS, not your own computer.

besides, is any court really going to rule that an online avatar is a sentient being, with a god-given right to privacy? lmao.

what could you possibly have to hide anyway? nothing unless he's doing something against the ToC

 

[Kegg]

I'm not European but suing over privacy concerns of a fictional character you play in a video game that has absolutely no bearing on who you really are sounds stupid.

Like you said, you're not European.

Honestly, though, this is the first I've heard of it and I've never really had any privacy concerns (not a big guy to target anyway).

 

[Amaris]

I put away the discs. I think I'm done playing for a long, long time. It was fun while it lasted, but I went to log in this week and just didn't want to. Plus, Blizzard locked my account, saying I was using a third party gold thingy, which is ridiculous. I told them someone must have hacked my account, and that if they do figure out who did it, just close the account and forget it. Their terrible security combined with their immediate reprimanding of innocent players just pushed me too far. I won't deal with that kind of headache, and just stopped playing.

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

I put away the discs. I think I'm done playing for a long, long time. It was fun while it lasted, but I went to log in this week and just didn't want to. Plus, Blizzard locked my account, saying I was using a third party gold thingy, which is ridiculous. I told them someone must have hacked my account, and that if they do figure out who did it, just close the account and forget it. Their terrible security combined with their immediate reprimanding of innocent players just pushed me too far. I won't deal with that kind of headache, and just stopped playing.

While I have stopped playing for a bit (trying out Star Trek Online which so far is absolutely horrible), I have to attack the second part of your statement.

Punishing innocent players? Who the hell knows who is playing behind that computer? I mean if T'Bonz and company can see IP addresses what do you think Blizzard can see? People believe they can't get hacked but they do anyway. I see it on their forums all the time.

Terrible security? Again, just taking into account this forum and what the admins can see on here, just imagine what a billion dollar company can see and do.

*shrugs* I don't know. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're wrong. Who knows? But based off the threads on their forums...people just aren't that careful.

 

[AnyStar]

i re-activated my acct last weekend, there are some things i like about 3.2 and some things i dont...

i havnt tried STO yet, but i'm thinking about checking this out...
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/09/lego-universe-trailer-looks-unexpectedly-thrilling/

 

[Amaris]

I put away the discs. I think I'm done playing for a long, long time. It was fun while it lasted, but I went to log in this week and just didn't want to. Plus, Blizzard locked my account, saying I was using a third party gold thingy, which is ridiculous. I told them someone must have hacked my account, and that if they do figure out who did it, just close the account and forget it. Their terrible security combined with their immediate reprimanding of innocent players just pushed me too far. I won't deal with that kind of headache, and just stopped playing.

While I have stopped playing for a bit (trying out Star Trek Online which so far is absolutely horrible), I have to attack the second part of your statement.

Punishing innocent players? Who the hell knows who is playing behind that computer? I mean if T'Bonz and company can see IP addresses what do you think Blizzard can see? People believe they can't get hacked but they do anyway. I see it on their forums all the time.

Terrible security? Again, just taking into account this forum and what the admins can see on here, just imagine what a billion dollar company can see and do.

*shrugs* I don't know. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're wrong. Who knows? But based off the threads on their forums...people just aren't that careful.

My passwords are a bitch to break. I don't use short words or common words, and for WoW, my password was both long and very random. Plus, at the time of the incident, I hadn't played in weeks due to my account had gone into lapse (I paid month to month and had not paid for that month). So how did I login and do that without having an active account and how could they not know that?

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

I put away the discs. I think I'm done playing for a long, long time. It was fun while it lasted, but I went to log in this week and just didn't want to. Plus, Blizzard locked my account, saying I was using a third party gold thingy, which is ridiculous. I told them someone must have hacked my account, and that if they do figure out who did it, just close the account and forget it. Their terrible security combined with their immediate reprimanding of innocent players just pushed me too far. I won't deal with that kind of headache, and just stopped playing.

While I have stopped playing for a bit (trying out Star Trek Online which so far is absolutely horrible), I have to attack the second part of your statement.

Punishing innocent players? Who the hell knows who is playing behind that computer? I mean if T'Bonz and company can see IP addresses what do you think Blizzard can see? People believe they can't get hacked but they do anyway. I see it on their forums all the time.

Terrible security? Again, just taking into account this forum and what the admins can see on here, just imagine what a billion dollar company can see and do.

*shrugs* I don't know. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're wrong. Who knows? But based off the threads on their forums...people just aren't that careful.

My passwords are a bitch to break. I don't use short words or common words, and for WoW, my password was both long and very random. Plus, at the time of the incident, I hadn't played in weeks due to my account had gone into lapse (I paid month to month and had not paid for that month). So how did I login and do that without having an active account and how could they not know that?

Keyloggers? Even if your passwords are long and complex if you get a keylogger on your system, uff.

*shrugs* Don't know on that one it could be a combination of things. Or maybe they locked your account once they figured out what was going on.

 

[Amaris]

Keyloggers? Even if your passwords are long and complex if you get a keylogger on your system, uff.

Nope. No keyloggers. Networking and secure interfaces became my focus in my computer business, and from that knowledge, quite a bit of paranoia.

So no, no keyloggers.

*shrugs* Don't know on that one it could be a combination of things. Or maybe they locked your account once they figured out what was going on.

Well, the thing is, I had received several emails from obvious spoof sites trying to get my info, so I went to Blizzard's website and emailed them, telling them the websites and that someone was trying to get my info via spoofing. I sent them 3 emails inside of a month from 3 different attempts. All I ever got back from them was "Blizzard takes your concerns very seriously". Yeah, I bet they do.

Which is why I made the comment about security and Blizzard. Even with notifications from me giving lots of pertinent information about what was going on, and after I heard nothing from them for well over a month (with my account still frozen because I hadn't paid for that month), they still locked my account due to my activities involved in economic something or other due to using a third party to buy gold. Which I didn't.

 

[Rii]

ITT: Players blames Blizzard for own security failings, storms out vowing reve- err, never to return. See also: every second thread on the CSR forum.

 

[Amaris]

ITT: Players blames Blizzard for own security failings, storms out vowing reve- err, never to return. See also: every second thread on the CSR forum.

My own security failings? In which part did I fail? What it where I used a difficult password? Was it where I alerted Blizzard that someone or something was trying to spoof my account? Was it where I use security software on my computer to scan for rootkits, keyloggers, spyware, malware and virii? Was it that I followed all of Blizzard's recommended security tips? Never shared my account? Never gave out vital information? Always checked the source of any "Blizzard" email? Where did I fail on my end with the security issues?

Also, where did I storm out? I told them that I wouldn't return. Did I storm out or did I tell them angrily that "they suck and that I'm never coming back ever!"?

Point out my angry diatribe against Blizzard. Better yet, point out something that does exist: my disappointed posts where I stated that Blizzard had simply pushed me too far with their immediate distrust of something they insist I did, even though I didn't, and immediately blamed me for something that had clearly not originated from my account. A simple IP check would have shown a different location. A simple account check would have shown that I was in frozen status due to my not paying for the next month. You're behaving like I bad mouthed your best friend, which I'm not. I'm complaining about a company who didn't hold up to their end. I did what was required of me.

So where did I fail?

 

[Teelie]

I'm not European but suing over privacy concerns of a fictional character you play in a video game that has absolutely no bearing on who you really are sounds stupid.

Like you said, you're not European.

Honestly, though, this is the first I've heard of it and I've never really had any privacy concerns (not a big guy to target anyway).

And that invalidates my point how? I'm incapable of understanding Europeans?

 

[Kegg]

And that invalidates my point how? I'm incapable of understanding Europeans?

It's a funny line mainly, but also a sort of culture divide thing. Privacy is serious business and all that and I suspect they've got a case.

 

[Kibbin]

I got my account hacked once, apparantly it had something to do with my replying to a spammer on a whisper.
They whisper you and even if you say no that means they know your account is active or something and can then hack you. That's what happened to me or is certainly the last thing to happen before my account got hacked.
Fortuantly Blizzard we're actually quite quick and efficant about getting my account and my stuff back.


(btw they locked me out by setting me up with one of thouse universal Blizzard accounts where you can access you starcraft warcraft and so on files from)

 

[AnyStar]

a friend of mine (in game) just re-activated his acct this past week too, turns out while he had been gone someone had hacked him and was simply PLAYING his acct. he had a brand new lvl 80 pally, and about 10k gold that wasnt there before...

why cant i get one of THOSE hackers!

btw, if you dont have the authenticator, GET IT. you even get a free pet for doing so.

 

[Ayelbourne]

BTW, I just read a long, long ass thread on WoW Europe about the privacy concerns regarding the new armoury features (RSS feeds on recent activities). One player is suing Blizzard over invasion of privacy.

Won't work. Legally, Blizzard owns all player characters (it basically says so in the EULA) and can do with them whatever the hell they want.

 

[AnyStar]

btw, im curios. i'm on Draenor, any of you out there with me?

 

[LitmusDragon]

I've quite recently, devoting myself to obsessive writing instead. I may be drawn back in with Cataclysm, however.

 

[Ayelbourne]

Warning: Major spoilers ahead!!

The final fate of Arthas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAqdBULRuo

 

[RichMerk]

Neat! Is that the cutscene at the end of ICC? Well, at least I've seen the end of the story now, though I'll probably never get to see it in-game.

 

[Teelie]

10 man regular LK has been downed already. The cutscene is only part of the ending from what they said but they aren't spoiling the entire ending until he's been downed 2-3 more times.