Cherry Palmer?Do you mean Agent Red/ Renee Walker?
He means Cherry Jones, who is playing President Taylor.
Ahh that makes more sense.
Yeah, that's what I meant. I have no idea where Cherry Palmer came from.
Woud this make 24 better?
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I have no idea where Cherry Palmer came from.
IMHO, what would make 24 better is if there was no villain.
Not to say Jack shouldn't have something to do, of course. But who says there has to be a villainous *character*? Why can't it be a natural disaster or something? Tornado, earthquake, flood, Clippers game, etc.
Not to say Jack shouldn't have something to do, of course. But who says there has to be a villainous *character*? Why can't it be a natural disaster or something? Tornado, earthquake, flood, Clippers game, etc.
What would make it better? Fans who let the writers and actors tell the story in their own way without nit-picking it to death. It's not precisely in real time? Boo hoo, would you really want to spend half an episode navigating roundabouts? It's close enough. Or fans who can figure out that Katee Sackoff is playing a character who is not Starbuck because she is an actress and that is what actresses do.
I think the tag team dynamic of last season (as opposed to the mentor-mentee dynamic of S3 and S6) worked fantastically. I hope that continues into S8, and less of the everybody trying to keep up with Jack. I think Cole especially has the potential to be a terrorist out-thinker. That would be cool.
I think the tag team dynamic of last season (as opposed to the mentor-mentee dynamic of S3 and S6) worked fantastically. I hope that continues into S8, and less of the everybody trying to keep up with Jack. I think Cole especially has the potential to be a terrorist out-thinker. That would be cool.
There has to be a terrorist threat for the Counter Terrorist Unit (CTU) to be involved. Unless Jack becomes a consultant for NOAA or the Red Cross.
Season seven dropped CTU altogether for the FBI. The show could do it again.
But I don't think viewers are ready for the horror of the LA Clippers at play.
Are you kidding? The show isn't anything close to 'real time' anymore. If it wasn't central to the series, they'd drop the real time gimmick in a nanosecond. They all but have narratively at this point. There's no real tension anymore because Jack and CTU can get anywhere they want to in the city immediately--unless there needs to be some tension. It's all arbitrary, and kind of frustrating, considering the pace of the first two seasons.
But I don't think viewers are ready for the horror of the LA Clippers at play.
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Are you kidding? The show isn't anything close to 'real time' anymore. If it wasn't central to the series, they'd drop the real time gimmick in a nanosecond. They all but have narratively at this point. There's no real tension anymore because Jack and CTU can get anywhere they want to in the city immediately--unless there needs to be some tension. It's all arbitrary, and kind of frustrating, considering the pace of the first two seasons.
Or Jack is simply caught in the middle of some disaster and helps out on his own. There's no reason CTU has to be involved.
That would be ballsy but if they did that, the twist would have to be that Jack lives.
Nah. That's not 24.
^ The only requirement for 24 is Jack and the real-time thing. After that, it's anything goes, really.
That's not what 24 has become. But remember the first season, where the bad guys simply had a personal vendetta against Jack and Palmer?
Every season since has been a variation on the second season (which is why season two hasn't been topped), with ethnic anti-American terrorists from a vague part of the middle east intent on using a weapon of mass destruction, often in collusion (knowing or unknowing) with a powerful white guy or two.
Every season since has been a variation on the second season (which is why season two hasn't been topped), with ethnic anti-American terrorists from a vague part of the middle east intent on using a weapon of mass destruction, often in collusion (knowing or unknowing) with a powerful white guy or two.
^which is really just a set-up for a different terrorist, who has this other plan, who was really just a distraction for this other guy, who needed to steal a part for.... you get the idea 
I think my favorite part of the Marwan "super-plan" was that several of the 'distraction' plans would have been a better overall plan, had he just spent more time on them and made them the plan. Less complicated, fewer steps, more destruction.
I think my favorite part of the Marwan "super-plan" was that several of the 'distraction' plans would have been a better overall plan, had he just spent more time on them and made them the plan. Less complicated, fewer steps, more destruction.
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I agree with what someone said earlier that they could just do a heist that Jack has to stop, like "Die Hard 3".
Am I the only one that thinks they should drop the real-time thing? They could easily have the story happen over a few days as it most likely would really happen. I mean sometimes I look back at a season and think about ALL THE SHIT that happened. I mean CTU will even get infiltrated in the middle of that day and some of their staff gets killed and usually a president dies somewhere in there and a few huge bombs.
Also, did Jack ever notice the most dramatic dangerous and deadly things always seem to happen to him at 3 seconds before the hour!?!?!?
Am I the only one that thinks they should drop the real-time thing? They could easily have the story happen over a few days as it most likely would really happen. I mean sometimes I look back at a season and think about ALL THE SHIT that happened. I mean CTU will even get infiltrated in the middle of that day and some of their staff gets killed and usually a president dies somewhere in there and a few huge bombs.
Also, did Jack ever notice the most dramatic dangerous and deadly things always seem to happen to him at 3 seconds before the hour!?!?!?
I think the "real time" element is as integral to the series as Jack Bauer is. It just wouldn't be the same if Jack saved "the day" over the course of several days rather than in one long marathon session of kicking-ass.
I think they just need to let the restraints of the "real-time" to show itself more. I watched through Season 1 this week and other than some oddities in drive-times the real-time element is very well played and by the end of the day you could tell Jack was beat (he had been up for almost 2 days).
But, nah, the real-time element is most of what makes this series fun.
i agree that "real time" is important...and a great way to preserve it is to have OTHER characters do the important things for a particular episode...so say one episode is Chloe & Cole heavy, due to the fact that Jack is driving across town during rush hour.
One thing that COULD be done is to have characters have flash bac memories...that could fill in dead travel time...
I think it would be cool interesting if they actually changed locations during a season.
Have the season start out in New York, for the first 8 episodes, then have terrorists hijacking a plane going from New York to L.A. (a 5 hour flight) with Jack on board the flight (like the film "Executive Decision" or "Air Force One"), that is 5 hours so episodes 9-14, then have a big thing going on in L.A. for the last part of the season. This way you can have CTU characters in both cities doing stuff, it breaks up the one city problem, and keeps things moving.
At least it would be different then the normal seasons of 24.
Have the season start out in New York, for the first 8 episodes, then have terrorists hijacking a plane going from New York to L.A. (a 5 hour flight) with Jack on board the flight (like the film "Executive Decision" or "Air Force One"), that is 5 hours so episodes 9-14, then have a big thing going on in L.A. for the last part of the season. This way you can have CTU characters in both cities doing stuff, it breaks up the one city problem, and keeps things moving.
At least it would be different then the normal seasons of 24.
Jack went to (northern) Mexico. A trip that took one episode there and back. The rest of the action was firmly centered in LA. Holding the tension over the course of a five hour flight (and five episodes) is something 24 hasn't been able to do since the second, perhaps third season. Since then, the writing has had too much ADD to be so focused.
The first season was really good and I liked all the characters. They developed a clear storyline with a good arc. After that it all fell apart and became the Torture Hour with Jack Bauer which I never much cared for. Granted, nothing will make me tune back into the show but season one was the best writing wise. I don't regret watching it like I do later seasons (and I still can't figure out why I stuck around for so long!).
I admit, every season since has been copying season two, which has lead to the show's decline, but...season two is by far my favorite. Season one has that awful lag in the back half filled with Teri's amnesia and other filler on the way to a memorable finale. I like the back half of season two a lot more.
