Observation about Galifrey <SPOILERS>

[Patrickivan]

Yeah, I think that attitude is very wise. GB and TrekXI forum are good examples.

Oaky, logical explanation for Gallifrey

<rubs hands furiously together, poises over keyboard...>

Thanks to the signal of four beats/ diamond, Gallifrey was translating itself
around/past/through the timelock. But hadn't fully arrived. This is evinced by the Timelords standing in a white lit area (and the Master disappeared into it with them when the link was broken). So, to me, they hadn't come all the way through. And neither had the planet. Gallifrey was beginning to manifest itself, and the effects of that were beginning to be felt, but not fully there yet. No planet could move so fast across the sky and be fully physical present (just go with it ). And when the link was broken, the planet went, and the partial effects went.

There y'go. You're welcome.

Well said!

 

[Photoman15]

Yeah, I think that attitude is very wise. GB and TrekXI forum are good examples.

Oaky, logical explanation for Gallifrey

<rubs hands furiously together, poises over keyboard...>

Thanks to the signal of four beats/ diamond, Gallifrey was translating itself
around/past/through the timelock. But hadn't fully arrived. This is evinced by the Timelords standing in a white lit area (and the Master disappeared into it with them when the link was broken). So, to me, they hadn't come all the way through. And neither had the planet. Gallifrey was beginning to manifest itself, and the effects of that were beginning to be felt, but not fully there yet. No planet could move so fast across the sky and be fully physical present (just go with it ). And when the link was broken, the planet went, and the partial effects went.

There y'go. You're welcome.

+1

Yep, Galifrey had not yet full materialized into our space-time.

 

[EyalM]

"Gravity Shmavity, my people practically invented..."

 

[DimesDan]

I did comment on it to my girlfriend and my family that something of that sheer size in local space would cause wide spread destruction to Earth, but I was told to shut up and enjoy the programme, so I did and thought nothing of it.

It did look rather funky and I have the image of Earth with Galifrey behind it as my desktop image.

 

[beneldon]

5 times the size of Earth yet humans, like Leela, for instance, who have been to Gallifrey didn't seem to notice weighing a lot more...

Eh! I'll go with: the less dense material, the planet not fully materializing yet, and the "shut up and enjoy the program" theory.

 

[Stevil2001]

Leela's hardcore, though-- she wouldn't admit to feeling any different!

 

[Sci]

What's that, you say? A planet the size of Gallifrey manifesting so close to Earth would cause widescale destruction on Earth's surface?

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey, I say! Wibbly wobbly timey wimey!

It solves everything!

War in the Middle East? The existence of poverty? Widespread disease? Hunger throughout the planet?

Wibbly wobly timey wimey!

There. It's fixed. All of it!

 

[Mr Awe]

It could be made of less dense material, so the gravity wouldn't be so bad.

Actually, a super Earth that is 8 times as massive would only be about 2-3 times as large due to compression. At least that is what I've heard as an interested amateur being bandied around the astronomy community.

Mr Awe

 

[The Nth Doctor]

What's that, you say? A planet the size of Gallifrey manifesting so close to Earth would cause widescale destruction on Earth's surface?

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey, I say! Wibbly wobbly timey wimey!

It solves everything!

War in the Middle East? The existence of poverty? Widespread disease? Hunger throughout the planet?

Wibbly wobly timey wimey!

There. It's fixed. All of it!

Stop it! You'll make Jim Steele angry! And you don't want to see him angry!

 

[FredH]

If that was true, that would have been squat little creatures - you only need very minor changes in gravity to have great changes of the evolution of a race. It would not lead to super-strength (Superman) or two hearts.

Well, the super-aged Doctor in "The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords" is a squat little creature; maybe that's what native Gallifreyan physiology looks like when you take all the superadvanced Time Lord bioaugmentation out of it.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

RTD & Co. may not have realised exactly how much damage a planet 5 times as massive as the earth would do if it appeared at such a close proximity.

I suspect that they simply didn't care - Doctor Who is a fantasy show with a few Sci-fi trappings.

That's a bingo!

 

[Kaijima]

Personally, even when I was watching the scene at the time, I assumed that Galifrey was merely not fully corporeal and that the earthquakes on Earth were just the party starting.

If the link hadn't been severed in time, Earth would have been torn apart before Galifrey was even 100% solid in our timeline.

 

[David cgc]

^Assuming the Time Lords hadn't activated the Final Sanction before that even became an issue. That's probably why they didn't particularly care that their planet was about to crash into another planet.

 

[bryce]

Also...as for Galifrey's surface gravity - 5X the size of Earth does not = 5X the gravity...

 

[Turbo]

Also...as for Galifrey's surface gravity - 5X the size of Earth does not = 5X the gravity...

Size? No. Mass? Yes.

 

[DWF]

From that perpective Gallifrey might even be the same size as earth, it's really hard to tell from the angle of the visual effect.

 

[KottenFutz]

If Galifrey looked big, consider how much bigger it is on the inside?

As far as the actual physics, this is a show that depicted the Earth being moved billions of lightyears thru time and space and into a grouping of other 'stolen' planets to be a mere cog in a giant Dalek death machine, then towed back to it's orbit by the TARDIS safe and sound as a pound, and it was an awesome visual, so... the science of Who is daunting, forces beyond our understanding are always at work. To the Time Lords and the Daleks and whatever else, humanity is just a plaything... they are gods in our eyes, and so are capable of almost anything. I'm sure they wouldn't have cared if Earth was destroyed in the process of bringing back their war torn planet, but it wasn't, so that worked out nicely, eh? Spot of tea then, Govn'r?

That's what I love about Doctor Who, it's all about entertaining the crap outta ya, first and foremost... without getting bogged down by the why's and how's?
It's about the Who!!

And, I could swear that when Galifrey began to appear, it looked very much like when the TARDIS manifests itself, with the pulsing and pushing until it becomes totally solid... I could almost hear, faintly, the TARDIS pulsing harmonic as it arrived, am I crazy?

 

[The Wormhole]

It astounds in a show about an alien who flies around the universe in a ship which is bigger inside than out, people are getting hung up on issues of what would actually happen if another planet showed up in Earth's orbit.

So, the TARDIS, that's okay. But Gallifrey appearing in Earth orbit, oh no, that can't be.

Honsetly, I don't care about either one. But if you're going to complain about one science error, go for them all.

 

[Bones2]

Has anyone mentioned that Gallifrey was big and orange, whereas in the TV movie it was blue?

 

[Turbo]

Gallifrey's color is the least of the problems with the TV movie. Skaro wasn't red-orange in the Classic Series either. Gallifrey has been orange since the Classic series (The Invasion of Time, specifically).