And when almost the entire population turned into the Master I thought of TNG where Worf and Alexander were trapped in the holodeck and all the holodeck characters turned into Datas.
The End Of Time Part 2 - Comment & Grading SPOILERS
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And when almost the entire population turned into the Master I thought of TNG where Worf and Alexander were trapped in the holodeck and all the holodeck characters turned into Datas.
A fist full of Masters?
They never showed him die.
Bait.
Not unless you're a moron.
(Not you, anyone in the UK that thinks interracial couples are controversial
)The real answer is that the woman is The Doctor's mother, and Wilf is The Doctor's father...
Maybe not as far fetched as some may think. I was quite interested in the scene where the Doctor said that he would have been proud to have a Dad like Wilf. Also the "woman" kept asking Will if he fired a shot in the War. We're led to believe this means the Second World War. What if she meant the Time War?
A rewatch of this and some helpful explanations from this board have increased my enjoyment of this finalé.
Boy, they sure milked the hell out of that regeneration, didn't they? I thought RTD got a little self-indulgent there in the end, but other than that I really enjoyed the episode. Every scene with Wilf was pure gold, and making him the man who would knock four times was brilliant. I'd honestly forgotten that he'd gotten himself stuck in that chamber before he started knocking.
I got quite a kick out of Matt Smith's quick appearance at the end; I'm really looking forward to seeing what he and Moffat have in mind for the Doctor.
I got quite a kick out of Matt Smith's quick appearance at the end; I'm really looking forward to seeing what he and Moffat have in mind for the Doctor.
Not unless you're a moron.
(Not you, anyone in the UK that thinks interracial couples are controversial
The real answer is that the woman is The Doctor's mother, and Wilf is The Doctor's father...
Maybe not as far fetched as some may think. I was quite interested in the scene where the Doctor said that he would have been proud to have a Dad like Wilf. Also the "woman" kept asking Will if he fired a shot in the War. We're led to believe this means the Second World War. What if she meant the Time War?
A rewatch of this and some helpful explanations from this board have increased my enjoyment of this finalé.
I think I prefer the Doctor sacrificing himself for just a regular old man than sacrificing himself for his father. I'm pretty sure Wilf is just Wilf.
Agreed. Emotionally and thematically, I much prefer Wilf being just Wilf. There's no need for him to be a Time Lord, The Doctor's father or not.
I find this a lot with this forum. It often explains or points out stuff I've missed. Enhances my watching a great deal.
Watched both parts again...teared up again...bawled at the Rose scene, I think someone mentioned that it would be really cool to have had the Ninth Doctor appear and help Ten into the Tardis. I'm wondering how that would have been feasible since The Tenth Doctor arrived several months before the Ninth arrived to confront and stop the Nestene. The Ninth Doctor would have had to have some kind of prior foreknowledge about his future incarnation dying at this time. I loved his line to Rose about her having a very good year, David's expression and delivery of the line was brilliant.
I choked up again at Donna's wedding when Wilf and Sylvia catch the Doctor and have their final conversation with him, especially when Wilf starts tearing up as he leaves. Donna tucking the lottery ticket into her wedding dress was a nice homage to The Runaway Bride...
I think I've changed my mind about the regeneration sequence as elaborate and bombastic as it is I thought it was well done. The Tenth Doctor has had some lively adventures, impacted a ton of people, saved the Earth a number of times, and fallen in love with a human woman he never thought was possible. I think he really enjoyed this incarnation of his, more than any previous. Also the Tardis exploding, I don't know if this has been touched on here but I took that as the Tardis physically feeling the Doctor fighting his regeneration and was having trouble dealing with it it's self. We know the Tardis is organic and "alive" so it shouldn't be that far fetched to suggest it had a reaction to the Doctor fighting his regeneration. I also assume that it gives the Eleventh Doctor a chance to land and rengerate the Tardis into the new console. I'm not really sure how the Tardis interior has changed in the past.
I choked up again at Donna's wedding when Wilf and Sylvia catch the Doctor and have their final conversation with him, especially when Wilf starts tearing up as he leaves. Donna tucking the lottery ticket into her wedding dress was a nice homage to The Runaway Bride...
I think I've changed my mind about the regeneration sequence as elaborate and bombastic as it is I thought it was well done. The Tenth Doctor has had some lively adventures, impacted a ton of people, saved the Earth a number of times, and fallen in love with a human woman he never thought was possible. I think he really enjoyed this incarnation of his, more than any previous. Also the Tardis exploding, I don't know if this has been touched on here but I took that as the Tardis physically feeling the Doctor fighting his regeneration and was having trouble dealing with it it's self. We know the Tardis is organic and "alive" so it shouldn't be that far fetched to suggest it had a reaction to the Doctor fighting his regeneration. I also assume that it gives the Eleventh Doctor a chance to land and rengerate the Tardis into the new console. I'm not really sure how the Tardis interior has changed in the past.
^There's also the fact that the regeneration energy ended up being partly directed at the time rotor - which I'm sure isn't all that good of an idea...
I wonder why River Song was not visited (and told the Doctor's name).
When we first saw her, it seemed like she knew him from a future regeneration, not this one.
WHY DIDN'T HE VISIT THE MOXX OF BALHOON?!?!!!?!?!?
Because Peter Jackson was only contracted to make the scene "too long", not "stupidly too fucking long".
River Song is a seed planted by Moffat as a prelude to his own tenure. She's important to the Doctor's future, not his past.
Because Peter Jackson was only contracted to make the scene "too long", not "stupidly too fucking long".
River Song is a seed planted by Moffat as a prelude to his own tenure. She's important to the Doctor's future, not his past
.
I think it's "Father's Day" that established that the ninth Doctor has spent time watching out over Rose in her life. He gave her a bicycle for Christmas one year. So it's possible that the ninth Doctor could have been hanging out that night, and to his surprise finds the tenth Doctor there dying.
The other interesting possibility would have been Jack helping the Doctor into the TARDIS, as we know from "Utopia" that Jack spent part of his century-plus waiting for the Doctor looking out for Rose.
In my own mind, the Doctor went and visited a few others during the "farewell tour."
He went to see Majenta Pryce one last time.
He went and saw Jackson Lake, his mind healed and being the hero he was capable of being.
He went and saw Lady Christina, saved her from a run-in with the law, and got one last snog.
He went to Stowe and saw Astrid as she boarded the Titanic. He said nothing to her, she didn't even know he was there. He just wanted to see her happy.
And, finally, he went and saw River Song, because she had seen him in that body with old eyes. His eyes, as he was dying, were old. He didn't really know her, but she was clearly important to him, and she never understood his visit because it was brief and he was distant.
and after I guess he went too New Memphis to see Nikki Jupiter & Rok Ma, and then after that he went to New Earth to see Brannigan.
