You have a knack for avoiding the question I keep asking, so I'll try to ask this as clearly as possible:
Why did Apple do that?
any one else sick of the arrogant mac vs pc ads?
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You have a knack for avoiding the question I keep asking, so I'll try to ask this as clearly as possible:
Why did Apple do that?
So you're refusing to answer, is that it? I can't make the question any shorter. It seems like a simple question to me, but you seem determined to say something about me instead of answering it every single time.
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Or you just change it. I like how you changed "Why did they do it?" into "Do they have the right to do it?" and just pretended that that was what I'd asked.
Maybe, and this is just a working theory, mind you, but maybe because that's the Apple Tech Support board, meant specifically for people to get help with their problems? People don't normally look up tech support to say, "Great job, everything's fine."
In related news, I thought Star Trek was wildly unpopular and a sure way to get beaten up by the cool kids at school, but look, everyone here at the TrekBBS is always talking about it! Clearly, it must be more well-liked by the public at large than football, puppies, and sex all put together.
when you have 10% of the hardware market, a very large chunk of the portable media player and smart phone markets you're not a little player and you're not obscure not matter what some-one might think.
And lest some-one think I'm an Apple fanboi, sitting next to me in a rack are
a) 1 x server running Windows Server 2008 R2 with Exchange Server 2010
b) 1 x pc running Windows 7
c) 1 x Trixbox VOIP server using CentOS Linux
d) 1 x OpenFiler NAS server connected to the 2008 system via iSCSI and running rPath Linux
in the living room is my Mac Mini running OS X 10.6 and Windows Vista and on the couch is my iPhone 3G
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The fact that Microsoft made a response ad at all was a mistake. That puts them on the defensive right off the bat.
That they did so in a way which implied Hodgemen represented a Windows user instead of a Windows machine is just a head-scratcher.
High school labs should not be taken as an indication of the quality of any machine. Half the time the sysadmin doesn't know what they're doing. And even when they do, they often impose all sorts of user restrictions (sometimes via 3rd party software) which just makes the situation worse.
How long ago was this? Some of the first-gen iMacs did have considerable issues.
That they did so in a way which implied Hodgemen represented a Windows user instead of a Windows machine is just a head-scratcher.
High school labs should not be taken as an indication of the quality of any machine. Half the time the sysadmin doesn't know what they're doing. And even when they do, they often impose all sorts of user restrictions (sometimes via 3rd party software) which just makes the situation worse.
How long ago was this? Some of the first-gen iMacs did have considerable issues.
I think most ad campaigns are annoying after you've seen them for too long.
"Can you hear me now? Good."
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"Can you hear me now? Good."
"la la la Free Credit Report dot com la la la"
I'm pretty drunk right now, but even I have been following this conversation better than you. Checkmate never said anything about Apple not trying to sell their computers to outsiders, that's a strawman you created, all Checkmate said is that Apple is trying to portray the average PC user as a boring drone devoid of personality and that there's is the platform for cool and alternative people. This isn't a new strategy, it has been the backbone of their marketing campaign for Macs since 1984.
And when you have less than 1% of the server market, writing malware that will infect a large number of users is very difficult indeed. If you want a virus to spread quickly your best bet is to infect a server in order to get thousands of users at once, having an infection spread from computer to computer would take too long in a world where an update to patch the security hole can be deployed within 48 hours.
I don't see them often, but the ads do make me smile because they often reflect exactly how I feel. I've owned Macs for six or so years and I'd never go PC. I don't like everything about Macs, but I do consider them superior to PC in many respects.
PCs are better if you're into gaming...and I'm not.
I really dislike Windows based interfaces and I find them confusing as hell. And although it's only aesthetics I can't stand the way PCs look. To me they almost all look antiquated.
If I had to use an analogy I'd think of PCs as Chryslers and Macs as Hondas. And I mean Chryslers from the '80s.
PCs are better if you're into gaming...and I'm not.
I really dislike Windows based interfaces and I find them confusing as hell. And although it's only aesthetics I can't stand the way PCs look. To me they almost all look antiquated.
If I had to use an analogy I'd think of PCs as Chryslers and Macs as Hondas. And I mean Chryslers from the '80s.
On the virus angle, the Mac people always point to the lack of viruses. And the other side points out the "security through obscurity" fallacy. Always. Every time.
And you know what? Both sides are right. Yes, it would be wise for Mac users to install some form of anti-virus even though they probably won't need it. And---this is the big one---YES, the lack of virii on the Mac is a huge advantage, regardless of why that condition exists.
And you know what? Both sides are right. Yes, it would be wise for Mac users to install some form of anti-virus even though they probably won't need it. And---this is the big one---YES, the lack of virii on the Mac is a huge advantage, regardless of why that condition exists.
I'd still say the Mac's portrayal of a "PC" as a dweebish business man is intended to portray the users as much as it is the PC "genre" of computing.
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Agreed.
Plus, it's not like Apple's going to start dominating the market. That's the LAST thing they would want. Apple's bread and butter is their unique computing platform and high concept style. You start looking like the established order and you kill that unique appeal.
Apple does very well as the underdog. I think they'll stay there.
J.
How can you write "he didn't say that" followed by "he said that exact thing."
To be fair, you did say you were drunk, so I guess I'll give you some leeway there.
Especially since it isn't really free...and you can get the official free reports through the FTC.
As for the question at hand, another reason the Mac ads don't work on me is that none of the software I need to run for my work is available for Mac OS. Sure, I could run BootCamp, etc., etc., but I'd rather cut the middle-man and just run in a Win environment on easily-upgradable and easily-modifiable PC architecture.
Checkmate
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It's not a fallacy, it's the simple truth. Especially since (at least when Mac users talk about it) they're implying that Macs are invulnerable to such things because of their superiority, not simply because they're a target no one gives a flying flip about.
It's even more ironic because they point to that fact and treat it as a reason why Macs should be more popular than PCs. All while completely oblivious of the consequences that would arise the moment they did become worthy of being a target anyone would care about writing malicious code for.
That's why it comes up with Mac users go around spouting off about the lack of malware. Macs aren't more secure. They're not superior. It's just that no one gives a damn about them.
I mean, why would someone want to waste their time spreading malware on 10% of the population rather than 90%? 10% is a microscopic number despite the feeble attempts to claim otherwise here. And despite that, they still get the occasional bit of malware, and even then it's usually just as proof of concept (ie, "see, told you so") more than anything else.
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