SG-U – Earth (1x07) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

[The Lyts]

Earth was ok. I found it average. I didn't really get into the Earthcentric parts of it but I love the parts on the ship. I always do!

the body swapping aspects are still pretty uninteresting to me just because I dont really care to watch Earth on this particular sci fi show. I personally hope they cut down on that. Oh yeah and more Greer!! Less Scott please. I tire of him and his uninterestingness and yes I know that's not a word. In all honestly I hope we start seeing even more of the people on the ship. it should be interesting to get to know everyone. Look forward to the next venture.

 

[Jenee]

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You're arguing with the wrong person. I like the show. I agree with ... ~~most of the points you made.

However, you've got about 5 cheifs still trying to take charge - one not even on the ship - I so did not like the scene in the first episode in which Scott essentially tells everyone "We've got the guns, so you'll listen to us" - and yes, I know those weren't his exact words, but if I were there, that's what I would have heard. And, I sure as hell would have said something then.

There's no co-hesiveness, no unity among the characters that the two previous Stargates had. And, it may be that that is one of the main plot lines, that that is exactly what Young is trying to do.

I'm not finding the offship trips believable - not the stones, the planetside ones. I know everyone here is sick of Canadian forests, but is the Milky Way and Pegasus Galaxies the only galaxies that have any kind of habitable planets?

Oh, and how do we know those other two characters made it back to the ship? Have we seen them in the background? Cuz I don't recall them even being mentioned.

 

[Jono]

I could do with less TJ. She is terribly boring and her acting has been very scratchy in places.

 

[Lindley]

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You're arguing with the wrong person.

In the wrong place?

 

[Jenee]

 

[Cartoonist]

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You're arguing with the wrong person. I like the show. I agree with ... ~~most of the points you made.

Oops.

However, you've got about 5 cheifs still trying to take charge - one not even on the ship - I so did not like the scene in the first episode in which Scott essentially tells everyone "We've got the guns, so you'll listen to us" - and yes, I know those weren't his exact words, but if I were there, that's what I would have heard. And, I sure as hell would have said something then.

I'd have heard that too, but then I'd probably have agreed with them in that situation. As ill equipped as the soldiers were for this, a bunch of civilian guests being in charge of this ship and voting on what to do (with absolutely no knowledge informing their votes) would sound like an even worse idea to me.

There's no co-hesiveness, no unity among the characters that the two previous Stargates had. And, it may be that that is one of the main plot lines, that that is exactly what Young is trying to do.

By giving people on board Destiny a sense that their input is important? I think you're right. I'm not sure we need the same sense of unity here that we needed in the first two series. Unlike in the first two shows, these people are bottled up on a ship. It's like going from a lobby to an elevator. There's plenty of talking in a lobby, but once you're in an elevator, you can usually hear a pin drop. People put up walls when they're in tight spaces with strangers. And for me, the fun comes in seeing the cracks start to form in those walls. I always wished the people on Voyager would've shown some sign of claustrophobia, but they never really did. We've got that here, which I appreciate. It reminds me of the dynamic among the crew of Moya on Farscape. They didn't start off unified at all. That only developed naturally after about a season of being hunted by Peacekeepers.

I'm not finding the offship trips believable - not the stones, the planetside ones. I know everyone here is sick of Canadian forests, but is the Milky Way and Pegasus Galaxies the only galaxies that have any kind of habitable planets?

I think this amount of realism is good. Habitable planets shouldn't be the norm. So far they've visited a handfull of planets, and some of them have been habitable, if barely. Most have been sort of barren. Only one of them was truly poisonous. And they've already encountered intelligent aliens, just not humanoids.

At this early point, if they were to encounter an earth-like planet, the people would probably decide to settle on it, and the story would be over. The writers need time to come up with a plausible reason why these people would rather stay on Destiny, which means the crew probably needs to come up with either a game plan for getting back to Earth, or an antagonist that's chasing them and pushing them forward.

Oh, and how do we know those other two characters made it back to the ship? Have we seen them in the background? Cuz I don't recall them even being mentioned.

I might be wrong, but didn't Eli go with them? I'm assuming that since Eli made it back, so did they. Or did he stay behind?

 

[Star Wolf]

Re: SG-U

Eli stayed on the desert planet and held the gate. We think he might have sent a kino through to take a look. But the other two were gone as Sgt Greer shot the guy with the dialing device.

 

[shadowedgalaxy]

Does anyone think this episode... pushed it too far?
What I mean is, here's Col. Young and his ex-wife "in the bedroom", and there's a shot of her... ya know... riding.

 

[cultcross]

a shot of her... ya know... riding.

you hatin?

 

[shadowedgalaxy]

a shot of her... ya know... riding.

you hatin?

No I found it quite intriguing.

 

[Jenee]

I'd have heard that too, but then I'd probably have agreed with them in that situation. As ill equipped as the soldiers were for this, a bunch of civilian guests being in charge of this ship and voting on what to do (with absolutely no knowledge informing their votes) would sound like an even worse idea to me.

I'm not disagreeing with the outcome, just the way they went about it.

By giving people on board Destiny a sense that their input is important? I think you're right. I'm not sure we need the same sense of unity here that we needed in the first two series. Unlike in the first two shows, these people are bottled up on a ship. It's like going from a lobby to an elevator. There's plenty of talking in a lobby, but once you're in an elevator, you can usually hear a pin drop. People put up walls when they're in tight spaces with strangers. And for me, the fun comes in seeing the cracks start to form in those walls. I always wished the people on Voyager would've shown some sign of claustrophobia, but they never really did. We've got that here, which I appreciate. It reminds me of the dynamic among the crew of Moya on Farscape. They didn't start off unified at all. That only developed naturally after about a season of being hunted by Peacekeepers.

didn't see farscape so the analagy is lost on me. But, I agree that these people shouldn't have anything in common, they're all perfect strangers - well, not completely, but there's no previous history tying any of them together, except TJ and Young. I wouldn't even consider Scott and James to have "history".

And, jumping into this ship was ..., like you said, like walking into an elevator. There wasn't a life threatening situation or ... some other ... crisis bringing them together.

While, it's more "realistic", it's kinda boring. Something needs to happen and quick or ... the story is going to fail.

I'm not finding the offship trips believable - not the stones, the planetside ones. I know everyone here is sick of Canadian forests, but is the Milky Way and Pegasus Galaxies the only galaxies that have any kind of habitable planets?

I think this amount of realism is good. Habitable planets shouldn't be the norm. So far they've visited a handfull of planets, and some of them have been habitable, if barely. Most have been sort of barren. Only one of them was truly poisonous. And they've already encountered intelligent aliens, just not humanoids.

At this early point, if they were to encounter an earth-like planet, the people would probably decide to settle on it, and the story would be over. The writers need time to come up with a plausible reason why these people would rather stay on Destiny, which means the crew probably needs to come up with either a game plan for getting back to Earth, or an antagonist that's chasing them and pushing them forward.

Yea, I agree. I just hope it's not like the wraith or replicators or ... some other corny, crappy antagonists.

 

[Kpnuts]

5/10

Chloe has taken over from Dr Keller as the most horrible character in Stargate. She's a whiny, awful waste of space. The actress can't act very well either.

The club scene was cringeworthy.

The stone glitch was the best part of the episode, very unexpected and interesting to watch. The actress playing Young's ex is excellent in the role.

After the grand reveal of Destiny using stars to power up with the beautiful visual effects in Light... To suddenly see the same thing happen again was poor. Two episodes later. And are we really meant to believe that firing a few guns can deplete the ship's energy?!

I suspect this show is going to start losing viewers, very very quickly. Most of the people Ive spoken to about it have called it boring nonsense. And to become boring within 5-6 episodes is quite incredible.

Something big, interesting, exciting, mysterious needs to happen. NOW. Air 3, Light and Water were on the right track... let's see an action/adventure episode now.

Oh and I thought the visual effect of Destiny dropping out of FTL and heading towards the sun was the best and most jaw dropping visual effect of the whole series.

Sadly Time doesn't seem that exciting. At least they get to go off-world.

 

[Pindar]

I am not a big fan of the earth stuff.

I was surprised to see O'Neil but the whole episode was saved by the ending.

 

[TheMasterOfOrion]

a shot of her... ya know... riding.

you hatin?

No I found it quite intriguing.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

a shot of her... ya know... riding.

you hatin?

No I found it quite intriguing.

BSG kind of spoiled me on the whole "sex on TV" thing. All I can think is, "BSG had better sex scenes."

 

[Mr Awe]

I am not a big fan of the earth stuff.

I was surprised to see O'Neil but the whole episode was saved by the ending.

The ending was cringeworthy with Telford showing up at Young's ex's house. I actually have a sense of forboding about where the producers are taking this. A soapy confrontation between Telford and Young. They're promising, no threatening, a lot of soap between now and their final confrontation. I'm not looking forward to that. And, no, I really dislike the Earth stuff.

Mr Awe

 

[Starkers]

There is right of consent. As icky as it might sound, having consensual sex with a 16 year old might've been legal in the state that Scott did his deed. I do think it was a mistake though to go this route with him. Have no problem with his religious beliefs or the abortion storyline, but the female should've been more age appropriate. I don't know why the writers went that route.

It would be entirely legal in the UK, as 16 is our age of consent. It is a very American opinion that sex under 18 is 'icky' or 'treading a line'.

Beat me too it. I think you also have to take into account the ages of the two participants involved, drawing a line in the sand about appropriateness is a lousy way of detemining what is acceptable. For example in the UK a 16 year old boy who has sex with his 15 year old girlfriend is comitting a crime. On the other hand a 50 year old guy having sex with a 16 year old girl is legal...and I know which I find ickier!

Anyway, probably my least favourite episode so far. I can see what they're trying to do but for me it didn't work here. I can't beleive they were allowed to misuse those bodies that way, it made zero sense. I've been defending Chloe but I really hated her here. As for Eli, well loved the Phillip Fry bit but when will Hollywood realise that its possible to be a geek and handsome/successful with women/ a normal person?

And I'm really sick of having Young play up Rush's motives. Can the audience not be given the credit to work this out for themselves?

 

[Broccoli]

The actress playing Young's ex is excellent in the role.

Trivia: she is the same actress that played Ayiana in "Frozen" and "Rising".

 

[Kpnuts]

Cool, she'd have made a good regular

 

[Lindley]

Ah, "Frozen". Back when meeting an Ancient was still something special.