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Pot-smoking neighbors

Seriously? Are we really getting worked up over the word "tummy?"
That's just a start. The phrase "grown-up" has always grated on my nerves as well. If/when I ever hear someone refer to me as a "grown up" I correct him/her by stating, "Please do not refer to me as a 'grown up'. I am an adult and I refer to other adults as such." I hate it when people "dumb down" language, thinking they're helping children when they're actually hurting them by doing so.

That's like when people tell little children to "Look at the air-pane!" They then can't figure out why the child developed speech issues. Yes, it can and does happen.
 
Seriously? Are we really getting worked up over the word "tummy?"
That's just a start. The phrase "grown-up" has always grated on my nerves as well. If/when I ever hear someone refer to me as a "grown up" I correct him/her by stating, "Please do not refer to me as a 'grown up'. I am an adult and I refer to other adults as such." I hate it when people "dumb down" language, thinking they're helping children when they're actually hurting them by doing so.

:cardie: I think you need to understand the difference between dumbing down and using a synonym. 'Tummy' is a perfectly adequate word which informally describes an area of the body.
 
Seriously? Are we really getting worked up over the word "tummy?"
That's just a start. The phrase "grown-up" has always grated on my nerves as well. If/when I ever hear someone refer to me as a "grown up" I correct him/her by stating, "Please do not refer to me as a 'grown up'. I am an adult and I refer to other adults as such." I hate it when people "dumb down" language, thinking they're helping children when they're actually hurting them by doing so.

:cardie: I think you need to understand the difference between dumbing down and using a synonym. 'Tummy' is a perfectly adequate word which informally describes an area of the body.
It's childish and ignorant. :rolleyes:
 
I grew up in a different world from the one alot of the younger folks on this board did. Back in the 70's and early 80's, unless your parents were wacko religious zealots who locked you in your room 24/7 except to go to school and church (where you likely didn't have any friends), you DID try smoking pot.

I can't speak to the United States, but that is exactly what it was like when I grew up in Canada during the 90's and it is still like that today. Do you really think use has declined among US teens?
 
I grew up in a different world from the one alot of the younger folks on this board did. Back in the 70's and early 80's, unless your parents were wacko religious zealots who locked you in your room 24/7 except to go to school and church (where you likely didn't have any friends), you DID try smoking pot.

I can't speak to the United States, but that is exactly what it was like when I grew up in Canada during the 90's and it is still like that today.

Ditto the US east coast in the mid- to late-90s. I really doubt I know more than a small handful of people in my age group who have never smoked weed.

Do you really think use has declined among US teens?

Statistically there has been a marginal decline in self-reported use of marijuana among teens.

Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug among youth in the United States.9 Current marijuana use decreased from 27% in 1999 to 20% in 2007.6 Current cocaine use increased from 2% in 1991 to 4% in 2001 and then remained steady from 2001 (4%) to 2007 (3%).6 Lifetime inhalant use decreased from 20% in 1995 to 12% in 2003 and then remained steady from 2003 (12%) to 2007 (13%).6 Lifetime use of ecstasy among high school students decreased from 11% in 2003 to 6% in 2007.6 Lifetime use of methamphetamines decreased from 9% in 1999 to 4% in 2007.6 Lifetime heroin use did not change from 1999 (2%) to 2007 (2%).6 Hallucinogenic drug use decreased from 13% in 2001 to 8% in 2007.6


6- http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/SS/SS5505.pdf

Of course, self-reported drug use studies are virtually useless, especially among kids, so take from it what you will.
 
No, I don't think kids will be instantly addicted. I think that some people want to live healthy lives and their health is being infringed upon by these drug filled neighbors.

How is their health being infringed upon? Secondhand smoke after being dissipated in the open air? Good luck selling anyone on that health risk, since it wouldn't even be illegal if they were regular cigarettes smoked outdoors except in a few very extreme places.

But if someone's getting a headache or feeling sick because of it, there's SOME kind of deleterious effect going on, even if that person isn't getting high. I know that's what happens to me if I'm around any kind of smoke, and it feels awful. :(

And PKTrekGirl--I really hate to say this because I like you, but I think that was a bad move to imply that if you don't drink or smoke or do drugs or whatever, that nobody will want to be friends with you. That's a very junior high tactic, and one that is certainly not grounded in fact, given my experiences, Mr. Laser Beam's, and those of others I have known both in person and online.
 
But if someone's getting a headache or feeling sick because of it, there's SOME kind of deleterious effect going on, even if that person isn't getting high. I know that's what happens to me if I'm around any kind of smoke, and it feels awful. :(

Well sure, but if you get a queasy stomach after a long drive no one starts assuming that that's taking points off some lifetime health scorecard. You feel bad and you get over it.

When someone calls something a "health risk" the assumption is that it's a persistent long term problem, not a temporary mild inconvenience. In order for secondhand smoke to seriously pose a risk you have to have years of close-up exposure. Smelling some pot every once in a while is not going to harm you in any permanent or significant way.
 
I grew up in a different world from the one alot of the younger folks on this board did. Back in the 70's and early 80's, unless your parents were wacko religious zealots who locked you in your room 24/7 except to go to school and church (where you likely didn't have any friends), you DID try smoking pot.

I can't speak to the United States, but that is exactly what it was like when I grew up in Canada during the 90's and it is still like that today. Do you really think use has declined among US teens?

Compared to the late 70's????

Absolutely. :guffaw:

Like night and day.

Not saying drug use doesn't happen now in schools....but it's nothing like what it was back then.

Back then, there WAS no 'war on drugs'....'safe sex'...and rating labels on rock albums.

There was only SEX, DRUGS AND ROCK & ROOOOOLLLLL!!!!! :p

And we partook of them all.

Alot. ;)

I've had rather extensive conversations with my nephews and their friends about this (high school age)...and at least based on what I hear from them about what goes on in the schools....while it still exists....it is not nearly at the same levels...or as out in the open as it was with us.

I remember getting caught by my band director smoking a reefer with some of my girlfriends in the girl's room in high school...and all we got was that "There's a time and a place for everything" speech.

I don't think that would happen today. At least not in the Atlanta school system.

Back then, the generation ahead of us were hippies, flower children, civil rights advocates and Vietnam War protesters. And kids my age grew up wondering if we (or in girl's case) or our brothers were going to end up getting shipped home from Southeast Asia in a box at age 18. So the 'live for today' mentality was ingrained in us by that and stayed with us into our late teens and 20's...after the war was over.

Today, the generation ahead of the kids in school are straight laced college students who's biggest concern is looking for that first job that will make them a wad of cash. A generation that barely gave a DAMN about Iraq or Afghanistan. Or...at least they didn't protest it nearly as much.

The times were different, the mentality was different....everything was different than it is now.

Not saying that's bad or good, mind you. I'm just sayin'.
 
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Nerys Ghemor;3558111 And PKTrekGirl--I really hate to say this because I like you said:
I thought her argument sounded like a rationalization, a rather bizarre and pitiably immature appeal to conformity straight from the mouth of a stock 8th grade villian character in an anti-drug PSA. No one will like you in school if you don't smoke pot? Non-tokers are automatically arrogant and holier-than-thou? You've wasted your life if you didn't snort powder off a mirror in your twenties? Seriously?

I somehow made it through high school, college (an art school in the middle of CA's prime marijuana region, no less) and well into my twenties without ever picking up a joint or snorting a line - and shock of shocks - I've managed to gain and keep plenty of friends and life experience along the way and by all appearances am no more or less enriched than my pot-smoking, coke-blowing peers. Unbelievable! What a dull and lonely path of wasted potential!
 
I've never smoked in any context, but I will admit I've thought about smoking pot, mostly out of curiosity. Not at all sure it would agree with me, particularly if it has a tendency to cause headaches (which I seem unusually prone to in any case).

As far as calling the cops on someone using pot, while I don't think it's the best way to handle it, or even necessarily a good way, I think people have the right to choose that course if that's the course they want to take and shouldn't be ridiculed for it. If you're going to do something illegal and you -know- it's illegal and you're not even going to be particularly subtle about it, don't be shocked or try playing the "poor me" card when the law puts the smack down on you (the "righteousness" of it notwithstanding).

Not sure I phrased this particularly well, unfortunately.
 
Not at all sure it would agree with me, particularly if it has a tendency to cause headaches (which I seem unusually prone to in any case).

That's only the bad shit. As a chronic migraine sufferer I can tell you I'd much rather toke the reefer than burn my stomach with aspirin.
 
Today, the generation ahead of the kids in school are straight laced college students who's biggest concern is looking for that first job that will make them a wad of cash. A generation that barely gave a DAMN about Iraq or Afghanistan. Or...at least they didn't protest it nearly as much.

This is all bullshit and I'm tired of seeing my generation pissed on so let's get the facts straight. During the Vietnam War the largest number of supporters for the war were people in college. Supporters. No one cared about Vietnam until the draft started and only then did the protests begin mostly because no one wanted to be drafted. It had nothing to do with them having a more universal view of the world.

Students in college were just like they were now: they wanted jobs. However, the capitalist society has become much more cut throat and there is also desperation in the air now as well.
 
The times were different, the mentality was different....everything was different than it is now.

Not saying that's bad or good, mind you. I'm just sayin'.

Seriously? Because your posts definitely come across as you looking down on whole groups of people.
 
And PKTrekGirl--I really hate to say this because I like you, but I think that was a bad move to imply that if you don't drink or smoke or do drugs or whatever, that nobody will want to be friends with you. That's a very junior high tactic, and one that is certainly not grounded in fact, given my experiences, Mr. Laser Beam's, and those of others I have known both in person and online.

I thought her argument sounded like a rationalization, a rather bizarre and pitiably immature appeal to conformity straight from the mouth of a stock 8th grade villian character in an anti-drug PSA. No one will like you in school if you don't smoke pot? Non-tokers are automatically arrogant and holier-than-thou? You've wasted your life if you didn't snort powder off a mirror in your twenties? Seriously?

I somehow made it through high school, college (an art school in the middle of CA's prime marijuana region, no less) and well into my twenties without ever picking up a joint or snorting a line - and shock of shocks - I've managed to gain and keep plenty of friends and life experience along the way and by all appearances am no more or less enriched than my pot-smoking, coke-blowing peers. Unbelievable! What a dull and lonely path of wasted potential!

That's exactly the same feeling I had and why I had to speak up.

Just because I have never smoked or had an alcoholic beverage or done drugs does not mean I haven't lived. It doesn't mean I am any less than anybody else or that my life is somehow less enjoyable. Nor does it mean I am a bad person to be around or undeserving of "real" friends (or that the ones I have are any less "real"), that I am dull or unimaginative or anything else of the sort.

And that false characterization REALLY rankles.
 
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