Nope.
Yes the current movie is a reboot.
Yup.
The other show were attempts to recreate the "magic" of TOS and TNG.
Actually since TNG was the most popular in terms of ratings, VOY and ENT abandoned their original premises in an attempt to recapture the "magic" of TNG.
So they are in a "sense" partial reboots. TNG was a reboot of the TOS concept. Having it take place in the "future" is not that different that placing a new version of Star Trek in an "alternate universe.
One takes place further in the future of what could basically be looked at as one big show. The other starts completely over and does things differently but with what are supposed to be the exact same characters, at least in name.
Change the show's philosophy? Sound like a reboot to me.
No, it just means they did things a little differently in an attempt to avoid becoming the same old thing over and over again.
Nope, but it does indicate it worked.
It indicates it made money. This movie basically has a huge novelty factor, and that's it.
Thing is they probably thought they were making good movies. I hope no one goes into a project wanting to make a bad movie or TV show. (Max Bialystock excepted). I'm sure many involved thought they were doing good work. And thing is a good product will not always produce the type of returns need for success. When you have a product that produces diminishing returns as DS9, VOY, ENT and the TNG movies did, you take a long hard look at that product and make some decisions. They did and decided a TOS reboot was the way to go.
Uwe Boll thinks he makes great movies, too, but they pretty much all suck. Of course if you tell him that he'll challenge you to a boxing duel, and as it turns out he's actually pretty good at it.
Where I lived it was on primetime during the week. Such it the life a a syndicated show. It was also the begining of the decline of Trek in the ratings. (Hey
Dennis where is that chart?
) So the TNG audience, which represented the apex of TV-Treks ratings, didn't follow the franchise to DS9. Again diminishing returns.
Which again isn't an indication of quality. I saw at least one publication call it, "the best show on television no one noticed."
TNG was something special, Trek may never succeed at that level on TV again. And hopefully it will never bomb at the theatre as the TNG movies did either.
TNG was somewhat fortunate that it was basically the only sci fi show on TV at the time And since it didn't try to really be anything special, as it turned out it was popular.
But the Star Wars route is "bad"?
Considering that it's Star Trek, yes.
I watched TOS when growing up and TWOK was not TOS, but it is a favorite of mine.
I've seen TOS and the movies, and I don't see anything particularly jarring about the movies as far as the characters go. Season 3 of TOS really sucked and the movies tended to be better, but that's about it.
I know that, it's the meme I can't resist. It serves as a nice counterpoint to the hyperbole and hysteria.
No, it's just a straw man since it doesn't have anything to do with the argument being made and just tends to upset the people it's directed at.
Incompatibilty is practically a frachise given.
That doesn't make sense.
Look at this way, someday the TNG/DS9/VOY continuity may comeback. As I said before, Hollywood likes to recycle.
I'm too pragmatic to think that.
You must be using a definition of "'accurate" I don't know, because opinion and accurate are not synonyms.
"Accurate" in the sense that plenty of people thinks this movie sucks. For example, I'd say that "Zardoz" sucks. would you call that inaccurate?
It revived the franchise and shown that fandom is as divisive as ever, same as it been for over thirty years.
Well, you're half right; it's definitely further divided the fandom further. But it hasn't revived the franchise, it's attempted to remake it.
Partial reboots in a certain sense. Think about it. Look at each show and compare it to TOS. Think some more.
No, I still don't agree with you on that one. Each addition expanded on the original. There have been plenty of continuity issues, but that hardly makes them reboots in any sense of the word.
Which means, of course, that Disillusioned is wrong in asserting that "fans of this movie like mindless action movies."
I don't know, I mean if you like this movie, there's a pretty good chance you'd go for something like "Star Wars" or "Starship Troopers."
His own follow-up statement contradicts the assertion.
I guess you missed where I said that I like some mindless action movies myself, but not when it's supposed to be Star Trek. Remember, all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
The "its just an opinion" is usually what I say to flamers, but I respect your opinion about the film just fine it dosen't bother me one bit.
Cool, I appreciate you saying that.
