Anybody here speak Klingon well enough...

[Gary Sebben]

to translate this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zDg0dKygE

It looks really professional, but there's no sign of who made it. Frankly, it reminds me of some of the "Lost" stuff Abrams likes to put on the web.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Wow...not a Klingon fan, nor do I understand it, but it's kind of amusing in a weird way.

Although on the other hand, I was rather disturbed by the visual allusions to Nazi and Soviet propaganda...

 

[Biggshow]

I think you're supposed to be disturbed by the visual allusions to Nazi and Soviet propaganda.

Nice work.

 

[M'Sharak]

to translate this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zDg0dKygE

It looks really professional, but there's no sign of who made it.

Or is there?

Edit:

It took me a while to find the thread, but the Star Trek parody short seen at the bottom of the article was produced at the same studio which did this new "Klingon Propaganda" one and had been posted previously here at TrekBBS by its maker (who doesn't seem to have posted since.)

 

[SilentP]

Doesn't feel very Klingon to me. I didn't need a translator to know he wasn't spitting or chewing up the scenery Though I'm guessing it fits more with the TOS style Klingons rather than the post-TMP ones.

 

[Terengo]

The pronunciation and grammar are both a little off, but it seems to be basically an invitation to join (or maybe just visit) the Klingon Empire. At one point, the narrator asks "Do you seek this planet? How? Let's go!" Then he describes some of the advantages of the Empire, ending with "Eat good foods." Some of the lines I recognize as proverbs from The Klingon Way, such as the lines spoken over the Klingon destroyer attacking the smaller ship: "If something is in your way, knock it down." The very last line I think is supposed to mean "Patiently get justice" (ruv = justice, boS = collect, SIbI'Ha' = un-immediately). But a lot of it is too hard to understand and spoken too fast to catch.

BTW, the rumor is that the little girls are singing in Mongolian.

 

[M'Sharak]

The pronunciation and grammar are both a little off, but it seems to be basically an invitation to join (or maybe just visit) the Klingon Empire. At one point, the narrator asks "Do you seek this planet? How? Let's go!" Then he describes some of the advantages of the Empire, ending with "Eat good foods." Some of the lines I recognize as proverbs from The Klingon Way, such as the lines spoken over the Klingon destroyer attacking the smaller ship: "If something is in your way, knock it down." The very last line I think is supposed to mean "Patiently get justice" (ruv = justice, boS = collect, SIbI'Ha' = un-immediately). But a lot of it is too hard to understand and spoken too fast to catch.

BTW, the rumor is that the little girls are singing in Mongolian.

Or Turkish, as the case may be. The follow-up article at TrekMovie cites an expert from the KLI as having made similar observations about the grammar used and quotes his translation. Also included is a YouTube clip of girls singing in Turkish, for those inclined to compare.

 

[Terengo]

BTW, the rumor is that the little girls are singing in Mongolian.

Or Turkish, as the case may be. The follow-up article at TrekMovie cites an expert from the KLI as having made similar observations about the grammar used and quotes his translation. Also included is a YouTube clip of girls singing in Turkish, for those inclined to compare.

Potato, potahto.

I know qurgh (referenced in the linked article). His language skills are fine. He's made some creative guesses as to what's being said and very loosely interpreted it, but I do not disagree with his final version.

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

That's damned funny....in a darkly amusing way. Looks like someone Remembers what the Klingons were supposed to be back in the TOS days. Which I preferred infinitely over the damned Space Vikings. They were more interesting that way

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Space Vikings--that's EXACTLY how I've described the TNG/DS9 Klingons! And I totally agree!

 

[EmperorTiberius]

The Klingon at 45 secs says "Merhaba", a Turkish word for hello.

 

[M'Sharak]

All explained here.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

I like what he says about the "Viking" Klingons--I totally agree!

 

[SilentP]

So much for 'IDIC'.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

So much for 'IDIC'.

I'm not Federation--I'm Cardassian.




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That said, I actually DO like diversity--I just thought the TOS Klingons had MUCH more potential to be fleshed out in an engaging manner with much more depth than what they were eventually given. I hate to say it, but if what the series did can be blown out of the water so completely by ONE book (The Final Reflection), then that really points out the weaknesses of the worldbuilding that was done onscreeen.

 

[SilentP]

I hate to say it, but if what the series did can be blown out of the water so completely by ONE book (The Final Reflection), then that really points out the weaknesses of the worldbuilding that was done onscreeen.

I'm unaware of the contents/story of the book, spoilers?

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

I hate to say it, but if what the series did can be blown out of the water so completely by ONE book (The Final Reflection), then that really points out the weaknesses of the worldbuilding that was done onscreeen.

I'm unaware of the contents/story of the book, spoilers?

Unfortunately, it's out of print now, but it's an old TOS novel by John M. Ford written before TNG and so on. It's a projection of Klingon culture based on just what we know from TOS, and it is some really fascinating stuff. The Klingons are warriors, but there is SO much more depth to them, even intellectual prowess (these foremost thinkers, BTW, have the title "Thought Admiral").

If you ever happen to go by a used bookstore, I can't recommend it highly enough.

If you ever played the FASA RPGs, this is where a lot of the material came from, too...I truly wish it had become official.

 

[JewelsNeeJulian]

Which is the Point. The Klingons were supposed to be Brutal and Vicious expansionists with a Totalitarian outlook on life. It was pretty much that way through the TOS era of films.

Then TNG came along and made them and Turned them into space Vikings.

Meh. An Injustice to the Klingons if you ask me