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"Way To Eden" always seems to get a bad rap

I'm willing to give TOS a pass on a lot of things. Smile, go with the flow; heck, "Catspaw" and "Spock's Brain" are worth a rewatch every now and then.

But not "Eden". The line must be drawn, here; this far, no farther.
 
Ugh.. Space Hippies.

This is probably the only TOS episode that feels dated to me.

What's funny is I watched it in 1971 or 1972, when a few hippies were still floating around, and it felt real dated even back then.
 
Oh, I like the episode....

Any changes somewhat intentional, but feel free to correct. I sooo want to sing this in a movie someday...just for the hell of it...lol

***

Looking to the good land
Going astray
Don't cry...don't cry...

Oh, I can't have honey
And I can't...have cream...

Gonna live...not die
Gonna live...and not die...

Stand in the middle of it all one day
Look in the shadow around me and say...

I'm here.....I'm here!
In the good land
In the new land....I'm here....

:lol:
 
Oh, I like the episode....

Any changes somewhat intentional, but feel free to correct. I sooo want to sing this in a movie someday...just for the hell of it...lol

***

Looking to the good land
Going astray
Don't cry...don't cry...

Oh, I can't have honey
And I can't...have cream...

Gonna live...not die
Gonna live...and not die...

Stand in the middle of it all one day
Look in the shadow around me and say...

I'm here.....I'm here!
In the good land
In the new land....I'm here....

:lol:


:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

I forgot that one...how can one not love lyrics like "Gonna live...not die." :lol:

There's the other one with the blonde chick...can't remember how that one goes, but part of it goes "There's a mile-wide emptiness between you and me" and then later Adam sings "Let's get together and have some fun. I don't know how to do it, but it's gotta be done!"...

:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

Pure. Unadulterated. Cheese.
 
The music's not half bad, imo. Heyyyy brother.....And hippies will always turn up in some form. Who says they can't exist again.
 
I think its a lot more fun an episode than, say, Plato's Stepchildren, which I rewatched the other night. Now THAT one really is cringeworthy. Shatner's horse impression really is TOS' lowest moment, IMO! :)
 
I'm willing to give TOS a pass on a lot of things. Smile, go with the flow; heck, "Catspaw" and "Spock's Brain" are worth a rewatch every now and then.

But not "Eden". The line must be drawn, here; this far, no farther.

Yeah. I watched Spocks Brain again recently, and its a whole lotta fun. You know its bad Trek, but its still hilarious and entertaining. :lol:

Even Way To Eden makes me laugh. Sue me. When TOS is bad, at least it's still fun. You can't say that about the other Treks. Well, I guess DS9's 'Move Along Home' nearly falls into the 'its so bad, its good' category. Nearly.
 
I'm willing to give TOS a pass on a lot of things. Smile, go with the flow; heck, "Catspaw" and "Spock's Brain" are worth a rewatch every now and then.

But not "Eden". The line must be drawn, here; this far, no farther.

Yeah. I watched Spocks Brain again recently, and its a whole lotta fun. You know its bad Trek, but its still hilarious and entertaining. :lol:

Even Way To Eden makes me laugh. Sue me. When TOS is bad, at least it's still fun. You can't say that about the other Treks. Well, I guess DS9's 'Move Along Home' nearly falls into the 'its so bad, its good' category. Nearly.
I thought "Move Along Home" was clever and very Trekkish: A race that likes games put our unwitting heroes through an ordeal that turns out to be just a game..

I haven't watched Way To Eden in years... Maybe tonight I'll do it, just to test your theory.. Yes, I am going to take one for the team!!
 
I always felt like this was an episode where the season 3 departure of GR and the rest of the writing support staff showed up very clearly. The episode was thisclose to being really good. One or two more rewrites from the write people and it might have become one of the strongest entries of the season, but as it was, close...no cigar.

I think there were too many rewrites. It's too bad that D.C. Fontana's "Joanna" didn't survive.
 
I always have and still do enjoy it.......now there's bad Trek....but this isn't it...bad Trek is "The Alternate Factor" in a nearly flawless season what happened here.....ok some blame can go to John Barrymore but still. "Spocks Brain" is fun and can be forgiven most of the time...lol
 
I always have and still do enjoy it.......now there's bad Trek....but this isn't it...bad Trek is "The Alternate Factor" in a nearly flawless season what happened here.....ok some blame can go to John Barrymore but still. "Spocks Brain" is fun and can be forgiven most of the time...lol


I agree. Goofy Trek is always fun. Serious Trek that fails is what is bad.
 
OK.. Watching it now (taking one for the team--as it were). The one thing I don't like is that Kirk comes off as a bit of a tool in this episode. He can't fathom the intellect and the skill of the hippies and boy do those songs blow!! I remember Napier from those low budget Russ Meyer films that got me through puberty. His singing always reminded me of the singer from Blood Sweat and Tears, specifically the song "And When I Die."

This episode has its moments, but with Coon and Justman gone, it just doesn't stand out as a quality Star Trek episode. With the exception of Spock, who is eternally hip, everyone seems like Herbert in this lackluster episode.
 
Funny, Conservatives I know rate TOS as a Socialist utopiaian wet-dream; Liberals call it militaristic & Conservative.
As an Independent, I call it just cool SF.:shifty:

Not realy. Most conservatives I've seen, even around here, call TNG a socialist wet-dream. I seldom see that applied to TOS at all.. though I do see a handful of complaints from liberals that TOS is too militaristic, but, again, even then it's a tiny minority of that side of the aisle.
 
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