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"The BBC's activities and ambitions are chilling"

Well, as Frankie "The Queen's pussy is so old, it's haunted" Boyle has left Mock the Week, it isn't really an issue anymore
What's not? Swearing on TV? Because Frankie was the only person on the BBC who ever swore?

No, but it's practically the only show that I watch on the beeb anyway. I agree that standards have been slipping of late, and that unsuitable material may have slipped south of the watershed. But ever since David Kelly, the BBC has been in knee-jerk mode. It's high time it grew a pair and told the government where to stick it. That'd be good. The beeb striking against the government. Mind your own business, or we'll switch the transmissions off. Or that they'll hire Gerry Adams dub guy to voiceover all the Party Political Broadcasts next election.

They're losing viewers as it is. The next time they show an 15 rated movie past watershed, and the swearing is dubbed or bleeped out, people will be switching to DVDs so fast that it would make your head spin.
 
Och damn you for noticing that. Well The Wire then.
No, because that would be editorially justified by the show, its content and the timeslot.

In the consultation I said that bleeped words are annoying, people usually know what they are anyway and draw more attention to the word than it would otherwise have. I doubt it will be people like me who they will listen to though.
 
Well, as Frankie "The Queen's pussy is so old, it's haunted" Boyle has left Mock the Week, it isn't really an issue anymore
What's not? Swearing on TV? Because Frankie was the only person on the BBC who ever swore?

No, but it's practically the only show that I watch on the beeb anyway. I agree that standards have been slipping of late, and that unsuitable material may have slipped south of the watershed. But ever since David Kelly, the BBC has been in knee-jerk mode. It's high time it grew a pair and told the government where to stick it. That'd be good. The beeb striking against the government. Mind your own business, or we'll switch the transmissions off. Or that they'll hire Gerry Adams dub guy to voiceover all the Party Political Broadcasts next election.

They're losing viewers as it is. The next time they show an 15 rated movie past watershed, and the swearing is dubbed or bleeped out, people will be switching to DVDs so fast that it would make your head spin.
They won't because that isn't what the guidelines say. They said it may be some circumstances where timeslot or editorial justification doesn't suit it and it may be bleeped. Not that it will be their policy to bleep all swearing.
 
Well the Tories have finally admited they're going to fuck up the BBC if the win the election.
From The Guardian

The shadow culture secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has said the Conservatives would abolish the "failed" BBC Trust and is considering ripping up the corporation's royal charter.
Hunt indicated that it was a matter of when - not if - a Tory government would tear up the BBC's governance structure.
It is less than three years since the BBC Trust, headed by chairman Sir Michael Lyons, replaced the corporation's board of governors, which existed from 1927 to 2007.
Hunt, in an interview with the Financial Times today, said the BBC was "out of touch" with what licence fee payers wanted and was damaging commercial competitors in the media.
He blamed the governance structure, in the form of the BBC Trust, because it had to act as both regulator and cheerleader, and said it should be replaced.
"We haven't made a decision on the timing of [changes in the governance structure] but we do think the structure ... has failed," Hunt added.
"We are looking into whether it would be appropriate to rip up the charter in the middle of it or whether one should wait."
 
^ Well, surprise surprise. I think the Tories will find themselves in a backlash bigger than almost anything else if they target the BBC. If there's one thing the British public won't stand for, it's ads on the Beeb.
 
I always love all the promises that all the parties state will happen if they get into power, its always all good stuff like free this and do away with this tax measure and that tax, but 99% are forgotten once in power.
 
"Out of touch" means not fawning at the feet of the Tory PR people, of course. This is same as the Tory Euro MP who went on US TV to call the NHS a '50 year mistake'. It will lose them another few parts of a percentage of votes. I bet those very PR people are cursing Jeremy [rhymes with] as we speak.
 
"Out of touch" means not fawning at the feet of the Tory PR people, of course. This is same as the Tory Euro MP who went on US TV to call the NHS a '50 year mistake'. It will lose them another few parts of a percentage of votes. I bet those very PR people are cursing Jeremy [rhymes with] as we speak.
Well Labour were calling them "Out of touch" a while back, because they were saying people would rather have a £5 cut than have the money top sliced.
I think what "out of touch" means is "they won't let us have our way".
 
But the £5 argument didn't affect Labour one way or the other. It was fair comment, since it was about a specific piece of cake the BBC wanted which wasn't theirs to have.
 
But the £5 argument didn't affect Labour one way or the other. It was fair comment, since it was about a specific piece of cake the BBC wanted which wasn't theirs to have.
I think you may be confused. Labour want to use the underspend of funds earmarked for helping people with switch over costs to pay for other projects, and keep the extra £5 on the licence fee to continue funding them. The BBC Trust said that 2/3 of people had said they would prefer to have the money back in the form of a licence fee price freeze or cut. And for that the government say the Trust are "out of touch."
 
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As usual you are right and everyone else (me) is wrong.
I seriously think that no matter who gets in, in the longer term, the BBC are fucked because the government(who ever they are) want to please big business and don't really like the fact the BBC criticise them while being paid for by a Royal Charter that they approve.
 
I think the BBC is one of those 'untouchables' like the NHS. Any government seen buggering about with it will never be forgiven. Tory meddling with the NHS in the 1980s certainly wasn't and still isn't.
 
I think the BBC is one of those 'untouchables' like the NHS. Any government seen buggering about with it will never be forgiven. Tory meddling with the NHS in the 1980s certainly wasn't and still isn't.

cultcross agrees.

There are some things a British government can't walk away from. Screwing with the NHS is one, screwing with the BBC is another. I have a feeling on a local level, hosepipe bans are a third.
 
looking at the Royal Mail, any government interference, (even more so when its for the reason of "cost cutting" ) is bad for something like the BBC, Royal Mail & the NHS.

I actually do not believe you should "cut costs" in public service as it rather misses the point.

for example, you could take the council run hotline to report broken street lamps and cut it down from 10am to 4pm, on the grounds that will save money only having to pay someone for those 6 hours, missing the point that people have lives and need to be able to report the fault when it suits them, which is what public service is about in my book.

As for the private company who will weeks later get around to fixing it, that is another story.
 
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Well the Tories have finally admited they're going to fuck up the BBC if the win the election.
From The Guardian

The shadow culture secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has said the Conservatives would abolish the "failed" BBC Trust and is considering ripping up the corporation's royal charter.
Hunt indicated that it was a matter of when - not if - a Tory government would tear up the BBC's governance structure.
It is less than three years since the BBC Trust, headed by chairman Sir Michael Lyons, replaced the corporation's board of governors, which existed from 1927 to 2007.
Hunt, in an interview with the Financial Times today, said the BBC was "out of touch" with what licence fee payers wanted and was damaging commercial competitors in the media.
He blamed the governance structure, in the form of the BBC Trust, because it had to act as both regulator and cheerleader, and said it should be replaced.
"We haven't made a decision on the timing of [changes in the governance structure] but we do think the structure ... has failed," Hunt added.
"We are looking into whether it would be appropriate to rip up the charter in the middle of it or whether one should wait."

And the horrible reality is that this SHOULD make me determined to keep the Tories out at all costs... and then I remember what Ben Bradshaw's saying about the Beeb, and realize New Labour is just as bad.
As has been said about so many things - can't they both lose?
 
im voting more or less at random for any 3rd party whos name strikes a cord with me on the ballet paper.
 
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