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Different design for the NX-01

^^ I think he meant that trying to wedge this NX-01 into being in the Enterprise lineage was unnecessary.
I agree...it's not incredibly important that the ship be an Enterprise. Voyager wasn't.
 
I like it. It's better than what we actually got. And more in line with the SS Valiant from a century earlier seen in the Chronolgy.

I would think that Conestoga and Valiant would probably be the same class of ship, as they were built four-or-so years apart.
 
Ok, guys we have to make a movie about a guy who lives in the 60s, but the producers want his car to look cooler, so here's what we'll do - paint a 2010 Mustang bronze, stick an old fashioned gas cap on it and call it a 1964 1/2 Mustang. Noone will notice, after all.

Oh, so true.

I find it baffling that higher-ups seriously considered just using an Akira as-is. And to those who don't see the Akira ripoff part of the NX-01, you are friggin' blind.
 
^^ I think he meant that trying to wedge this NX-01 into being in the Enterprise lineage was unnecessary.
I agree...it's not incredibly important that the ship be an Enterprise. Voyager wasn't.
Wedge? There's over a Century of room. Since the show was being called "Enterprise" is seems to be rather important. Since the last couple of shows (sans Enterprise) produced diminishing returns they were hoping the name Enterprise (nearly synonymous with Star Trek) would turn things around.
 
^^ I think he meant that trying to wedge this NX-01 into being in the Enterprise lineage was unnecessary.
I agree...it's not incredibly important that the ship be an Enterprise. Voyager wasn't.
Wedge? There's over a Century of room. Since the show was being called "Enterprise" is seems to be rather important. Since the last couple of shows (sans Enterprise) produced diminishing returns they were hoping the name Enterprise (nearly synonymous with Star Trek) would turn things around.

While simultaneously not wanting the title to acknowledge that it was Star Trek. You can't have your cake and eat it too (though it was changed later, so that's something).
 
^^ I think he meant that trying to wedge this NX-01 into being in the Enterprise lineage was unnecessary.
I agree...it's not incredibly important that the ship be an Enterprise. Voyager wasn't.
Wedge? There's over a Century of room. Since the show was being called "Enterprise" is seems to be rather important. Since the last couple of shows (sans Enterprise) produced diminishing returns they were hoping the name Enterprise (nearly synonymous with Star Trek) would turn things around.

While simultaneously not wanting the title to acknowledge that it was Star Trek. You can't have your cake and eat it too (though it was changed later, so that's something).

UPN's attitude regarding the Star Trek name was stupid to say the least. At first, they wanted it left out, thinking the Star Trek name would scare away potential viewers. Then, after Enterprise's ratings dropped, they added Star Trek to the title, thinking it would attract viewers.
 
^^ I think he meant that trying to wedge this NX-01 into being in the Enterprise lineage was unnecessary.
I agree...it's not incredibly important that the ship be an Enterprise. Voyager wasn't.
Wedge? There's over a Century of room. Since the show was being called "Enterprise" is seems to be rather important. Since the last couple of shows (sans Enterprise) produced diminishing returns they were hoping the name Enterprise (nearly synonymous with Star Trek) would turn things around.

While simultaneously not wanting the title to acknowledge that it was Star Trek. You can't have your cake and eat it too (though it was changed later, so that's something).
Too many cooks: The Producers, the Studio and the Network, made Enterprise somewhat schizophrenic.
 
The producers of ENTERPRISE originally wanted the use the actual Akira class ship for the NX-01

I find that highly unlikely.

Obviously they wanted a ship that *looked* sort of like an old variant of that ship. But to suggest that the literal, 24th century Akira was the one they wanted, is utterly ludicrous. I'm going to have to ask for more proof on that.

Yes, as was stated before, Drexler himself gave this information in his blog. And you're correct: It would have been utterly ludicrous. But there you go.

However, if a fifth season were to have been produced, he also said that he would have modified the ship to look more unique (i.e. give it a secondary hull, etc.).

Also, while I totally agree with The Wormhole (a first :)) that the Akira wasn't a background ship, to the producers, any ship that wasn't the Enterprise, Defiant, Deep Space Nine, or Voyager was considered a background ship (i.e. not the "hero ship"). Not that I'm sticking up for the producers or anything. As I said before, they thought we fans were a bunch of idiots. That's why San Francisco and the Golden Gate Bridge were destroyed in DS9 during the Dominion War, but were miraculously intact in VOYAGER...because they thought viewers of VOY wouldn't understand why it was destroyed (even though the war was mentioned several times in VOY).
 
Nope, it has to have a saucer. And nacelles.

The Akira was a throwaway, used for a couple of shots in a movie. Only hard-core fans noticed.
 
That's why San Francisco and the Golden Gate Bridge were destroyed in DS9 during the Dominion War, but were miraculously intact in VOYAGER...

When did we ever see those things in that show, apart from the bits of "Endgame" taking place decades in the future when they could have long since been rebuilt?

I do like the idea of the NX class being retrofitted with an added secondary hull. It may even be the bridge to the upcoming classes like the Constitution...
 
When did we ever see those things in that show, apart from the bits of "Endgame" taking place decades in the future when they could have long since been rebuilt?

It wasn't decades in the future. It was during the Dominion War, in the episode with Reg Barclay.
 
When did we ever see those things in that show, apart from the bits of "Endgame" taking place decades in the future when they could have long since been rebuilt?

It wasn't decades in the future. It was during the Dominion War, in the episode with Reg Barclay.

Oh. I don't remember how much of the city that episode showed. But even if they did, it could still have taken place before the Breen attack. Was a stardate given?
 
When did we ever see those things in that show, apart from the bits of "Endgame" taking place decades in the future when they could have long since been rebuilt?

It wasn't decades in the future. It was during the Dominion War, in the episode with Reg Barclay.

Oh. I don't remember how much of the city that episode showed. But even if they did, it could still have taken place before the Breen attack. Was a stardate given?

It could just as easily have been repaired very quickly. Done as sign to a population of Earth, that hadn't been attacked in about 2 centuries by either the Klingon or Borg, that all was well and the that the Federation capitol was still safe.

Looked at a time line and Voyager episodes and could find Barclay in VOY season six, which would put it around a year after the Breen attack on Earth. Plenty of time to rebuild The Golden Gate Bridge.
 
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Perhaps, but that's not my point. My point was that the producers intentionally used the original matte painting of San Fran instead of the destroyed version because they felt the fans were stupid. And that particular episode took place a few weeks after the Breen attack, because I distinctly remember seeing it and going, "Why isn't San Fran destroyed?" Guess I'm smarter than you thought I was, Brannon.
 
Perhaps, but that's not my point. My point was that the producers intentionally used the original matte painting of San Fran instead of the destroyed version because they felt the fans were stupid. And that particular episode took place a few weeks after the Breen attack, because I distinctly remember seeing it and going, "Why isn't San Fran destroyed?" Guess I'm smarter than you thought I was, Brannon.

I posted too late, but Barclay and Troi appear in season 6 of Voyager, the year following DS9's finale.
 
Perhaps, but that's not my point. My point was that the producers intentionally used the original matte painting of San Fran instead of the destroyed version because they felt the fans were stupid. And that particular episode took place a few weeks after the Breen attack, because I distinctly remember seeing it and going, "Why isn't San Fran destroyed?" Guess I'm smarter than you thought I was, Brannon.

I posted too late, but Barclay and Troi appear in season 6 of Voyager, the year following DS9's finale.

Plenty of time for 24th century construction technology to rebuild what was destroyed. I mean, it wasn't the *entire city* of San Francisco that was wiped out...
 
Perhaps, but that's not my point. My point was that the producers intentionally used the original matte painting of San Fran instead of the destroyed version because they felt the fans were stupid. And that particular episode took place a few weeks after the Breen attack, because I distinctly remember seeing it and going, "Why isn't San Fran destroyed?" Guess I'm smarter than you thought I was, Brannon.

I posted too late, but Barclay and Troi appear in season 6 of Voyager, the year following DS9's finale.

Plenty of time for 24th century construction technology to rebuild what was destroyed. I mean, it wasn't the *entire city* of San Francisco that was wiped out...

And they made it look EXACTLY like how it looked before, even down to the plants? I suppose that it really means nothing at all when things get destroyed in the Star Trek universe...
 
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