Wolverine DVD on shelves today...
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When I look at this movie from the point of view of the previous three X-Men movies there are a couple things I notice.
1: After three movies of Wolverine whining about not remembering anything, I find it interesting that he is the exact same person before and after his .45 lobotomy.
2: I do find it troubling that Professor X was on the Island. Especially that he was there at the exact moment the Logan forgot everything. So in the previous three movies when Xavier says he can't help Logan, is he lying? Does he know everything that happened? With his telepathy, he should be able to rebuild Logan's past thru other people's memories.
3: Why weren't people more shocked by the displays of mutant powers here? We are several years out of Magneto's terrorism and other public displays of power. Mutants should be more "Weekly World News" than "NY Times" at this point in history, but nobody seem shocked or anti-mutant, especially compared to the previous three movies.
4: I assume the surgery they did on Scott is the reason why he cannot control his powers in this reality. And I will give them points form not "saying" the sister was Emma Frost.
So who were the other kids?
The one strapped to the center of his cell might be Quicksilver
The other speedster might be the villain Whirlwind.
And of course there are the mandatory Mutant Twins
1: After three movies of Wolverine whining about not remembering anything, I find it interesting that he is the exact same person before and after his .45 lobotomy.
2: I do find it troubling that Professor X was on the Island. Especially that he was there at the exact moment the Logan forgot everything. So in the previous three movies when Xavier says he can't help Logan, is he lying? Does he know everything that happened? With his telepathy, he should be able to rebuild Logan's past thru other people's memories.
3: Why weren't people more shocked by the displays of mutant powers here? We are several years out of Magneto's terrorism and other public displays of power. Mutants should be more "Weekly World News" than "NY Times" at this point in history, but nobody seem shocked or anti-mutant, especially compared to the previous three movies.
4: I assume the surgery they did on Scott is the reason why he cannot control his powers in this reality. And I will give them points form not "saying" the sister was Emma Frost.
So who were the other kids?
The one strapped to the center of his cell might be Quicksilver
The other speedster might be the villain Whirlwind.
And of course there are the mandatory Mutant Twins
That was so effin annoying, too, because I caved and saw the workprint, but the theatrical version wasn't at all different, besides more finalized effects. Biggest piece of PR spin ever.
Note that Scott was wearing his red glasses in class and he blasted uncontrollably when Victor attacked him as they came off. So he likely has the brain damage from the burning parachute jump as in the comics. It did not appear any surgery had been done to him, he had merely been fitted with a more reinforced eye restraint.
I just finished watching it. I'm one of those who has a tentative at best grasp of Marvel Comics, and my X-Men knowledge is pretty much limited to the previous films. So I went in not knowing what from what or who half the characters were.
But in simple film-viewing terms I thought the film was an utter piece of shit. To have such dreadful dialog, craptacular actions scenes, and such a fucking awful plot all rolled into one big summer action flick must be unprecedented. Holy God, that was bad!
But in simple film-viewing terms I thought the film was an utter piece of shit. To have such dreadful dialog, craptacular actions scenes, and such a fucking awful plot all rolled into one big summer action flick must be unprecedented. Holy God, that was bad!
I picked it up today. I didn't see it during it's theatrical run so it was all new to me. I enjoyed it. It was a fun little action flick. Certainly not the travesty so many fans have made it out to be.
It might be the fact that I know exactly jack and shit about the comic book character that allowed me to enjoy the movie. None of the changes hurt me any because I didn't know they'd been made in the first place.
I have no regrets. I got what I wanted out of the flick.
Personally I thought with all the bitching and hyperbole flying around this place about Wolverine that it was going to be Terminator 4 awful. It wasn't. Not by a loooong shot.
I watched it the other day and enjoyed. I will add it to my X-Men collection. I never was a fan of the comic books either so I agree with everything you have said.
So what are the bonus features on the DVDs? (I'm really pissed that Amazon doesn't list those anymore.)
In the scene between Xavier & Magneto in the plastic prison cell in X2, it's implied that Xavier knows more about Logan's past than he's letting on. You also have Xavier's line, "Sometimes the mind has to discover things for itself."
And then, the whole Phoenix thing in X-Men: The Last Stand showed that Xavier can be an asshole sometimes.
Still, I hold out hope that a future sequel explains why Xavier seems to be holding out on Logan.
Agreed. This is one of my big problems with the movie, particularly when trying to fit it into the continuity of the other 3 films. Everyone is way too mutant-tolerant, particularly for a prequel.
Yeah. Between the sexy red costume & my residual affinity for Daredevil, Elektra is kinda watchable.
In the scene between Xavier & Magneto in the plastic prison cell in X2, it's implied that Xavier knows more about Logan's past than he's letting on. You also have Xavier's line, "Sometimes the mind has to discover things for itself."
And then, the whole Phoenix thing in X-Men: The Last Stand showed that Xavier can be an asshole sometimes.
Still, I hold out hope that a future sequel explains why Xavier seems to be holding out on Logan.
Agreed. This is one of my big problems with the movie, particularly when trying to fit it into the continuity of the other 3 films. Everyone is way too mutant-tolerant, particularly for a prequel.
Yeah. Between the sexy red costume & my residual affinity for Daredevil, Elektra is kinda watchable.
Wolverine aka X-Men Origins: Wolverine was the #1 DVD during its release.
It was...................disappointing.
After all the flack they got for X-Men 3, you'd think they'd step up their game for Wolverine.
Was that Emma Frost or not?
What was her power, the ability to be a human Bedazzler?
Why was she made of Bling?
Gambit was totally pointless.
Will i Am can't act for shit.
The Blob was completely wrong!
Liv Shrivber is the only saving grace of the film.
If I find a used copy for a fair price, I'd buy it but it's not worth paying full price for.
After all the flack they got for X-Men 3, you'd think they'd step up their game for Wolverine.
Was that Emma Frost or not?
What was her power, the ability to be a human Bedazzler?
Why was she made of Bling?
Gambit was totally pointless.
Will i Am can't act for shit.
The Blob was completely wrong!
Liv Shrivber is the only saving grace of the film.
If I find a used copy for a fair price, I'd buy it but it's not worth paying full price for.
C'mon, I know it is the "popular thing" to do these days online - it wasn't *THAT* bad, guys.... I have seen many worse films this year.
I really liked Liev Schreiber as Sabertooth, and the other members of the team were fun too. Some of the action was pretty decent.
My biggest issue was the last 5 minutes, with all the convolutions the plot had to go through to fit the continuity of the X-men movies. Ugh. (adamantium bullet to forget? what happened to Sabertooth? Prof X, etc...)
But overall not a bad film.
I really liked Liev Schreiber as Sabertooth, and the other members of the team were fun too. Some of the action was pretty decent.
My biggest issue was the last 5 minutes, with all the convolutions the plot had to go through to fit the continuity of the X-men movies. Ugh. (adamantium bullet to forget? what happened to Sabertooth? Prof X, etc...)
But overall not a bad film.
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Opinion. And that of one of the most notorious haters and film snobs in the forum...
I liked this movie. Was it perfect? No. Wade was poorly handled in the final act. But it was damned good.
Yes. According to the credits her name is Emma. Also, the female doctor that was there at the adamantium bonding experiment and later working on Wade, the one who told Stryker that not even that adamantium bullets would kill Logan and that he'd only heal from it was named "Dr. Frost". Perhaps yet another sister for Emma and Kayla here in the movie continuity?
Her secondary mutation is to transform into a diamond form, a form she is currently trapped in in the current comics. Pretty similar to the way Colossus changes, but without the strength.
Could be a set up for the next sequel. He is now the first person Logan can ever remember meeting.
Seemed well enough for the role he had. This was never meant to be a film to be in the Oscar hunt for best acting after all.
I enjoyed the take this movie had on the character myself.
Not to mention shining a whole different light on the movie Kate & Leopold.
It wasn't Stryker who mentioned it, it was the male doctor who was overseeing the adamantium bonding process who told Stryker that Zero never had a chance. And perhaps Zero could have hit Logan in the eye socket, bypassing his hardened skull. It could just be that Stryker severely underestimated the new Logan he made. So many possibilites...
Or it could be that Stryker was just inept in his job.
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True. I have, unfortunately, subjected myself to far worse this summer, including Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, & Transmorphers: Fall of Man. I've also seen much better fare, such as Crank: High Voltage, Star Trek, & Terminator Salvation. I'd say Wolverine is at kind of a middle level, alongside Underworld: Rise of the Lycans & Watchmen.
I don't think they were thinking that far ahead.
If she's the sister of "Silverfox", then her last name isn't "Frost". Therefore she's not Emma "Frost" she's Emma "Silverfox".
Natural diamond isn't bling/Karot. Diamond mineral/stone cut into that form. In the comics/cartoons Emma's diamond form is of uncut diamond not in karots.
I think we just found the new Biggie!
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