TOS replicators?

[Red Ranger]

My favorite food processor scene was in Tomorrow is Yesterday. Kyle asks the Air Force sergeant what he wants to eat, and he scoffs, "How about some chicken soup?" Kyle puts in a card, and out pops chicken soup. We see the sergeant smell it first, then he tastes it, and he's flabbergasted. For some reason, one of my favorite scenes from that ep. -- RR

 

[TOS Purist]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .

Yet you stuck to canon very well when you wrote the Khan books, which were awesome, by the way. See, it's not really hard to stay within canon and make something original - it just takes some talent, creativity, and a love for the genre.

 

[Captain Robert April]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .


(And that "little student film" is as much STAR TREK as anything else.)

JJ's little bit of cinematic masturbation is on its own separate timeline and universe (with its own set of physical laws, judging by the wonky tech), so Paramount can call it a chocolate chip puppy for all the difference it makes, I don't have to pay a lick of attention to it.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Normally, our heroes don't always insert a card. And when they do, it might contain their special dietary requirements, record their choices for later analysis and improvement, or act as a credit card.

Except in "Tommorrow is Yesterday," Kyle, who was holding like five or six cards, asked someone what he'd like to eat and he just happened to have the right card for it.

 

[Greg Cox]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .


(And that "little student film" is as much STAR TREK as anything else.)

JJ's little bit of cinematic masturbation is on its own separate timeline and universe (with its own set of physical laws, judging by the wonky tech), so Paramount can call it a chocolate chip puppy for all the difference it makes, I don't have to pay a lick of attention to it.

To each their own, I think it's the best thing to happen to Star Trek in years. (But that's a debate that's already been hashed out in five hundred other threads!)

 

[Nerys Myk]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .


(And that "little student film" is as much STAR TREK as anything else.)

JJ's little bit of cinematic masturbation is on its own separate timeline and universe (with its own set of physical laws, judging by the wonky tech), so Paramount can call it a chocolate chip puppy for all the difference it makes, I don't have to pay a lick of attention to it.

And if they did it would mean that chocolate chip puppy was canon. Seperate Timelines, universes and physical laws have nothing to do with canon.

 

[Greg Cox]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .

Yet you stuck to canon very well when you wrote the Khan books, which were awesome, by the way. See, it's not really hard to stay within canon and make something original - it just takes some talent, creativity, and a love for the genre.

Thanks!

Just wait until you see the next book . . . .

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .

I usually go for the photon grenade myself.

Honestly, I'd rather have good story with good characters than a work that adheres faithfully to every little bit of minutiae sputtered out throughout the history of the franchise. The so-called, much beloved "canon". Or is it "cannon"? (Yes, I know the difference between the two.)

I say canon. You say cannon. Let's call the whole thing off.

Just wait until you see the next book . . . .

If you can speak on it, what's next?

 

[Greg Cox]

I'm still waiting for the contract, so I don't want to jinx it, but I should have something to announce soon. Especially since I've already written 22,000 words!

 

[TOS Purist]

Whoa, you're writing another book?!?!?? Is there ANY clue you can give us?!??

 

[CoveTom]

JJ's little bit of cinematic masturbation is on its own separate timeline and universe (with its own set of physical laws, judging by the wonky tech), so Paramount can call it a chocolate chip puppy for all the difference it makes, I don't have to pay a lick of attention to it.

This is the part I don't get. You don't have to like the recent film. You don't have to watch it. You don't have to accept it as part of your personal Star Trek canon. That's cool with me. I happen to like the current film, but OTOH I discard Enterprise out of my own personal canon too. To each his own.

But what I don't get is why people have to make snarky comments like "cinematic masturbation." Like it's not just a movie that some people like and some people dislike. It's like there's actual hatred for the existence of the film. I mean, it's cliched, but it's just a movie. And, yes, Star Trek is just a TV show.

 

[Christopher]

No such thing as "personal canon." That's an oxymoron. Canon is official by definition. That's what the word means. It's the exact opposite of individual opinion. What you're talking about is personal continuity. The canon is what it is, regardless of what parts of it the individual viewer chooses to count as "real" or not.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Nonsense!!! Everyone knows that only even numbered episodes, filmed in odd numbered years, during months ending with a vowel count as canon.

 

[Timo]

Except in "Tommorrow is Yesterday," Kyle, who was holding like five or six cards, asked someone what he'd like to eat and he just happened to have the right card for it.

Good point - and one we need to rationalize away, right now!

I mean, the writers or directors obviously didn't understand that it makes no sense for our heroes to carry half a dozen of those bulky cards if each only contains a single meal recipe. Not only does it speak badly of the data-packing abilities of the 23rd century, it makes no practical sense.

However, we can always argue that something else was afoot. Say, where do these people keep their data cards when they aren't in use? They are apparently stored on their persons somewhere. Probably not dispersed in a dozen little secret pockets, though: in late TOS and in TNG; they have these fancy belts that can sprout a phaser holster or a communicator holder whenever needed, but otherwise the belts merge into the clothing.

Now, assume that Kyle would have such a neat little pocket for his data cards. Obviously, he'd need to whip out all half a dozen of them to find his food card, since he couldn't tell it apart from his "complete works of Earth's pop artists" or "transporter blueprints Vol.III" cards by feel. Only a single "my dietary requirements, preferences, and food credits" card would be needed for providing the chicken soup, then, as logic would dictate - but Kyle would still have to search for that card from the stack.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Hober Mallow]

When I hear the word "canon," I reach for my phaser . . . .


(And that "little student film" is as much STAR TREK as anything else.)

Actually, in this old Trekker's humble opinion, even more so than most of the recent series based on Star Trek, simply because it features Kirk, Spock and McCoy, who -- again, my humble opinion -- are Star Trek.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Nonsense!!! Everyone knows that only even numbered episodes, filmed in odd numbered years, during months ending with a vowel count as canon.

But only on Tuesday.

 

[TOS Purist]

Actually, in this old Trekker's humble opinion, even more so than most of the recent series based on Star Trek, simply because it features Kirk, Spock and McCoy

Yeah...Kirk, Spock, and McCoy in name only.

 

[Greg Cox]

JJ's little bit of cinematic masturbation is on its own separate timeline and universe (with its own set of physical laws, judging by the wonky tech), so Paramount can call it a chocolate chip puppy for all the difference it makes, I don't have to pay a lick of attention to it.

But what I don't get is why people have to make snarky comments like "cinematic masturbation." Like it's not just a movie that some people like and some people dislike. It's like there's actual hatred for the existence of the film. I mean, it's cliched, but it's just a movie. And, yes, Star Trek is just a TV show.

Especially in a thread that has nothing to do with the new movie.

It's like the old-school BATTLESTAR fundamentalists who can't seem to stop bashing the reboot, no matter what the topic. "Well, TRANSFORMERS 2 sucks . . . but not as much as nuBSG!"

 

[CoveTom]

No such thing as "personal canon." That's an oxymoron. Canon is official by definition. That's what the word means. It's the exact opposite of individual opinion. What you're talking about is personal continuity. The canon is what it is, regardless of what parts of it the individual viewer chooses to count as "real" or not.

Okay, fine. "Personal continuity" then. The point is that people are free to determine which Trek films and TV shows they like and discard the rest. No one is gonna force them to watch anything they don't want to. They're all just fictional works of entertainment, anyway, and there's no reason for people to show such hated as they do in these threads.

 

[Greg Cox]

Whoa, you're writing another book?!?!?? Is there ANY clue you can give us?!??

Once I get the contract, which should be any day now, I'll shout it from the rooftops.