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Superman Batman: Public Enemies

^Please, no. His women have creepy faces and unrealistically exaggerated bodies.
That's not right.

All his women have one unrealistically exaggerated body.

You know something's wrong when Big Barda has the same body type as Supergirl! :wtf:

Even worse. Variety is beautiful.


And everyone will be posed so that their feet will either be off-screen or behind something that obscures their view.

Uhh, the foot thing is Liefeld, isn't it? We were talking about that Turner guy. At least I was.
 
With all these characters in the movie, I wonder if it's going to be at all accessible to viewers who aren't already familiar with the DC universe from the comics or JL/U.
 
Knowing who all the characters are will be an added bonus for fans, but most likely all the general audience will need to know is that Batman and Superman are being targeted by a whole lot of superheroes and supervillains at the behest of Lex Luthor. Most of these characters will have minimal screen time and knowing exactly who they are won't be essential to following the plot.
 
Justice League Unlimited was crammed full of superheroes and villains who were never named or addressed, they were just pretty background colors. I'm sure in the movie (PARTICULARLY since it's only 67 minutes :mad:) they'll just be random people in spandex shooting energy at them.
 
The idea of Superman as a muscleman has never made much sense to me. I mean, how often in his everyday life on Earth does he have to exert himself to a degree that would put any strain on his yellow-sun-augmented Kryptonian muscles? It's always seemed to me that he should be really scrawny-looking.

Although, I dunno, maybe he uses train cars for weightlifting like Mr. Incredible. And there are always isometric exercises, I guess.
 
I've always felt Superman should look massively huge, but my introduction to the character was the 90s comics and 90s cartoon. A realistically drawn Superman just looks wimpy and odd to me.
 
Given the kind of outfits worn and how bulky the superheroes are I always assumed a lot of comic fans were also fans of wrestling.
Personally speaking, yes I've always thought Superman should have at the most normal muscles.
 
I love comics and I absolutely detest wrestling in any and all forms :p It just looks better on the page is all. They should look physically powerful, not like normal people.
 
That's eight people reprising their DCAU roles: Conroy, Daly, Brown, O'Connell, Pounder, Hale, Corey Burton, and Elizondo (who played Bane in Mystery of the Batwoman, though not before, and also played the role in the Rise of Sin Tzu video game). Also two people reprising roles from non-DCAU productions: Robert Patrick was Hawkman on The Batman and Tom Wilson was Catman in Batman: The Brave and the Bold. And the majority of the rest have worked on previous DC/WB Animation productions in different roles.

Andrea Romano said in the Superman/Batman featurette that was a part of the Green Lantern: First Flight DVD that having these actors reprise their roles was something she stipulated as a requirement if she were to do the voice direction for this DVD.


With all these characters in the movie, I wonder if it's going to be at all accessible to viewers who aren't already familiar with the DC universe from the comics or JL/U.

Does it matter? I just wonder who is actually buying DVDs like this one, Justice League: New Frontier, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern:First Flight. I would think that some kids would buy it (well, some, at least, since not all of them are intended for younger audiences), but mostly comic fans.

Is it really something that someone who did not pick up the original story would be interested in for the DVD? I know I personally love GL and thus bought that DVD and I bought the TPBs for New Frontier before I got the DVD.
 
I love comics and I absolutely detest wrestling in any and all forms :p It just looks better on the page is all. They should look physically powerful, not like normal people.

But looking bulky is not the same as looking physically powerful, or at least not the same as being physically powerful. Training for bulk and training for strength are two different things, and people who are really strong, who really use their muscles a lot in actual exertion rather than just building them up for display, are a lot leaner and wirier than the big bodybuilder types.

Women in particular naturally have a somewhat thicker layer of body fat over their muscles, so even when they're really strong, the surface definition of their muscles is less pronounced than on a man. In order for female bodybuilders to have "six-pack" abdominals and otherwise clear muscle definition like male bodybuilders, they have to reduce their body-fat levels by an unhealthy amount.

So I'd rather see superheroes modeled on the physique of athletes rather than bodybuilders. Spider-Man should be built like a gymnast. The Flash should be built like a runner. Batman should be built like a martial artist, which means lean and wiry rather than bulky. And so on.


With all these characters in the movie, I wonder if it's going to be at all accessible to viewers who aren't already familiar with the DC universe from the comics or JL/U.

Does it matter? I just wonder who is actually buying DVDs like this one, Justice League: New Frontier, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern:First Flight. I would think that some kids would buy it (well, some, at least, since not all of them are intended for younger audiences), but mostly comic fans.

Maybe a direct-to-DVD movie can do better with a narrow sales focus than a theatrical feature could, but it's still a good policy in general to make any film accessible to as wide an audience as feasible.


Is it really something that someone who did not pick up the original story would be interested in for the DVD?

I haven't read the original comics, and from what I've heard about them, I don't want to. I'm going to rent this for the actors, mainly. And in the hope that the animation will be good. First Flight had superb animation by Telecom, a division of the great TMS studio that did such fine work on many of the DCAU shows. (Anyone know what studio is animating Public Enemies?)
 
Dan Didio made a comment on another featurette on the GL DVD (I just got it last night, so I watched everything today) about "Blackest Night" to the effect that you didn't have to know the recent history of most of the characters to enjoy the story, just basically have an idea of who they are and whether they are dead (and thus eligible to be a Black Lantern or alive and a target for the BLs).

I think that's probably the same assumption with the DVD movies, as they have all seemed accessible to viewers who did not read the source material. Do you really have to know who Catman, Deadshot, etc. are to enjoy the story? At least in the comic, no, you didn't. Understanding who Superman, Batman, Captain Marvel, Hawkman, Metallo, and Lex Luthor are is really more pressing (though even then, you only have to know superficial things) in the original comic storyline.
 
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If you feel that way and have not read the issues of Action Comics that Gary Frank illustrated (collected in the Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes and Superman: Brainiac TPBs), go seek them out. Most fans agree that his Superman looks to be very inspired by Christopher Reeve.

Oh and you might want to also keep your eye out for Superman: Secret Origins, which Gary Frank is drawing also. The first issue is out on September 23rd.
 
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