Moments that really made you cringe or disliked

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  1. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Why do you see him as a Jar Jar Binks type? I didn't get that impression at all.
     
  2. Temis the Vorta

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    Yep. We don't need no Star Wars muppets mucking up our Star Trek! :klingon:

    I wasn't too happy about the portrayal of Nero and Romulans in general since I was expecting this move to finally move them beyond stock-villain status. But it didn't make me cringe, exactly.

    He was obviously a character that belonged in the Star Wars universe. To me, he was more Ewok, but that's not much better than Jar-Jar.
     
  3. SiorX

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    And really, he looks more like an Ewok. Or possibly the offspring of an Ewok who mated with a cabbage.
     
  4. Mistral

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    Spock stranding Kirk. Just wrong. They have brigs-that would have done nicely. Or even beaming him down to a holding facility on the planet would have made more sense.
     
  5. Jeyl

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    Kirk being an unlikable jacka**.
     
  6. M'Sharak

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    Now, I've got that image running around inside my head. :lol:
     
  7. JustKate

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    My first thought was also "Eek! An ewok!"
     
  8. Shazam!

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    The plot.
     
  9. BlastHardcheese

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    At least the little raisin didn't talk.
     
  10. pookha

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    yeah he did but not much.

    i could have done without two monsters chasing kirk.
    one would have been enough.
     
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    All I could think about that big red monster was that it just didn't look like it would come from an ice planet. Didn't it get cold without fur to protect it? Every time I see the movie, that bugs the bejeepers out of me.
     
  12. Sector 7

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    I agree with JustKate and M'Sharak, the Kobayashi Maru would have been awesome without the smarta** Kirk portrayal. He should have been slightly more serious to show he really did not believe in the 'no win scenario'. The attitude presented shows he is NOT ready for command, nor will he be in time to earn the Big E captaincy.
    The Spock/Uhura relationship probably would not bother me as much if she wasn't all over him in the elevator and transporter pad. It appeared to be more of a sexual relationship than a serious one.
     
  13. Chrisisall

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    You must be sexually restrained not to realize the brilliance of that moment, sir. IMO.
     
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    I really didn't like the whole beamed into a pipe thing in the engine room. Silliness.
     
  15. Chrisisall

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    'Cause silly was never a part of Trek, clearly.:guffaw:
     
  16. pookha

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    i think that it was there to show that while yeah kirk had breezed through the academy he still has some maturing to do.
    and we see it as he progresses through the film.

    plus, to a degree he may not have wanted to really reveal just how deeply he felt about this.
    wouldnt be the first time kirk hadnt just bravado and humor to deal with a situation.

    or he may not have really faced all of his own motives until the confrontation with spock at the hearing.
     
  17. PhasersOnStun

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    Maybe it was a homage to two sci-fi movies: the first monster was rather "Empire-snow beast like" (I forgot the name) the second one very "Starship Troopers like."

    That whole "happens to be jettisoned to the same planet as Spock" is contrived, so I just ran with it. Really, it's all just a great roller coaster, so none of it really made me "cringe."

    Some movies are deep, other movies are popcorn fun. This was a fantastic popcorn movie, that unlike many had some really nice character moments thrown in. But I don't cringe when popcorn movies get...well...popcorny. ;) I cringe when philosophical drama's get hokey, but not popcorn movies.
     
  18. M'Sharak

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    She's not a sir, sir, and the brilliance of the moment is clearly a matter of opinion.

    And "you must be sexually restrained"? Harrumph. Not a particularly graceful choice of words, methinks.
     
  19. Gepard

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    I second all of this, and add to it almost all of Kirk's behavior over the entire film, for those same reasons. Yeah, we're told he graduated after only three years in the academy, but never once do we see him behave himself, act mature, kuckle down and study, or take what he's doing seriously. Kirk's supposed greatness is a major informed attribute.

    I also had a problem with:

    • All the jokes, especilly after Vulcan was destroyed. I get it, the writers are funny. But it's way overdone, and comes across as inappropriately jocular to be playing scenes for laughs ten minues after genocide.
    • Kirk's promotion (duh). Do I even need to say why?
    • The Enterprise wailing on the Narada as it's being torn apart in the black hole. People contest this, but it's right on-screen: "Your ship will not survive." Plus we actually see Nero's ship being twisted and torn apart by the tidal stresses. As a result, Kirk's attack looks sort of petty, like he's kicking a drowning man.
    I have plenty of other complaints with the film, but most of the rest are structural or conceptual issues and not one scene or moment.
     
  20. Shazam!

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    Go on.
     
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