Cringe moments in otherwise good episodes

[GulBahana]

Is there an episode that you like and has a small section that makes you cringe, and wish was not there? For me, it's the part in Caretaker when the crew is transported to the recreation of a southern home with a barn. The lady offers them sugar cookies. That small section bugs me to the point where I wanna skip over to the next part of the story. The rest of the premiere is fine. Are there some small parts of episodes make you turn your head?

 

[NCC-73515]

The entire "corn on the cub!!" scene kinda ruined the pilot for me

 

[GulBahana]

The entire "corn on the cub!!" scene kinda ruined the pilot for me

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall in the writer's room when that scene was developed. It's a serious life and death moment after they arrive, and some crewmembers are abducted for experimentation. Did they think that cheesy scene would be a nice contrast to make it a little funny and less dark?

 

[Markonian]

I love the Klingon "Prophecy" episode. But oooh, the Doctor telling Kim to just accept a warrior's unwanted advances...

Did they think that cheesy scene would be a nice contrast to make it a little funny and less dark?

It was the 90s. Trek of the time didn't have as much psychological trauma in it as it should've based on what the characters go through all the time.

 

[carcinoGeneticist]

This is very vague, but my memory of the episode is vague because I only watched it once and that was when I was like 13, but the episode of Human Error. I found it to be a good episode, but there were a couple interactions with Holodeck Chakotay that made me cringe.

 

[Lynx]

Is there an episode that you like and has a small section that makes you cringe, and wish was not there? For me, it's the part in Caretaker when the crew is transported to the recreation of a southern home with a barn. The lady offers them sugar cookies. That small section bugs me to the point where I wanna skip over to the next part of the story. The rest of the premiere is fine. Are there some small parts of episodes make you turn your head?

The entire "corn on the cub!!" scene kinda ruined the pilot for me

I love that whole scenario with the farm, the barn and the old lady.

Mostly because the old lady looks like an old lady from my childhood both in looks and manners.

 

[tomalak301]

I love Someone to Watch Over Me but the plot with the ambassador and Neelix bordered on cringe for me.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

At the beginning of "Unimatrix Zero," where both the Doctor and Seven act like she has just had "her first dream."

The show is infamous for continuity errors, but this is one of the hardest to get around and the most glaring. Not only did Seven dream in multiple previous episodes ("the Raven," "Waking Moments," "One,") but it was an entire plot point in some of them! Most notably "the Raven," which was a pretty pivotal episode for Seven's character arc.

At that point in the series, saying Seven had never dreamed before would be like saying that B'Elanna had never met a Vidiian before, or that Harry Kim had never died before.

Otherwise, "Unimatrix Zero" is a solid two-parter.

 

[Gaith]

Not VOY, but VOY-related: DS9's "Dr. Bashir, I Presume?" is a good ep, except the subplot about Nog being all woo-woo for a casino worker (that Dr. Zimmerman is also interested in) is pure cringe, and as badly written and acted as any Disney Channel sitcom.

(I once made a personal fan edit of the ep which cuts those scenes out - it's a shame to lose any Picardo screentime on his one DS9 appearance, not to mention Dr. Zimmerman screen time, but it's quite necessary.)

 

[matthunter]

Not VOY, but VOY-related: DS9's "Dr. Bashir, I Presume?" is a good ep, except the subplot about Nog being all woo-woo for a casino worker (that Dr. Zimmerman is also interested in) is pure cringe, and as badly written and acted as any Disney Channel sitcom.

(I once made a personal fan edit of the ep which cuts those scenes out - it's a shame to lose any Picardo screentime on his one DS9 appearance, not to mention Dr. Zimmerman screen time, but it's quite necessary.)

Rom, not Nog.

 

[Yuri Nikolayev]

Any episode with the Borg children. PURE CRINGE. Star Trek is pure cringe every single time it does anything with children. But the Borg children are the worst… the dialogue… UGH…

 

[Anna Yolei]

"Tattoo" is a surprisingly and all too rare story centered on Chakotay and his backstory; as a Black kid born in the first generation post-segregation and in a largely white school, with family that I will charitably say have traumatic experiences that influence their internalized anti-blackness, I could sympathize with teen Chakotay wanting to leave his community versus the older man he's become who understands more of where his father was coming from.

....but that whole "aliens gave Indigenous people the gift of language" bit?! I don't think I need to elaborate on that, we all know how absolutely terrible Voyager was with all of that

On that tangent, "Resolutions" is peak J/C but if I never read another fanfic where Kathryn Janeway, a white woman from Bloomington goddamn Indiana, calls Chakotay her "angry warrior," it will be way too soon.

 

[Smellincoffee]

Any episode with the Borg children. PURE CRINGE. Star Trek is pure cringe every single time it does anything with children. But the Borg children are the worst… the dialogue… UGH…

"Fun will now commence" is a fun line, though.

 

[raneclowd]

This is very vague, but my memory of the episode is vague because I only watched it once and that was when I was like 13, but the episode of Human Error. I found it to be a good episode, but there were a couple interactions with Holodeck Chakotay that made me cringe.

Chakotay makes me cringe. The writing for him was so bad.

 

[Gaith]

I don't know if it's a good episode, but "11:59" becomes a lot less cute when you realize Janeway's ancestor was romancing the Zodiac Killer.


(I kid, I kid! Arthur Lee Allen wasn't the Zodiac... Tolkien fan Paul Doerr was.)

 

[Gaith]

Okay, I just watched "Blink of an Eye" for the first time, and WTF was with the humanoids not experiencing the normal flow of time as soon as they reached orbit? SF Debris compared their initially staying at their own speed like Looney Tunes characters running off a cliff, but not falling until they look down, which seems about right. It's an absurd and completely unnecessary detail, whose only purpose seems to be to kill the female pilot, which could easily have happened during the flight, for whatever reason.

(And, while not seeing the Doctor's time on the planet works for the episode, I wish there'd been a companion episode devoted to it entirely. And, why only maroon him for three years - why not, say, 13? Him remarking to someone upon his return that he spent more time with his "family" on the planet then he'd spent with the crew up 'til then would have made for a hell of a closing line.)

 

[Qonundrum]

The entire "corn on the cub!!" scene kinda ruined the pilot for me

You could say that it was a little corny, but to say it was a little corny was also an understatement...

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Also, at 2:36, would you say that they're forked?

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[Qonundrum]

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall in the writer's room when that scene was developed. It's a serious life and death moment after they arrive, and some crewmembers are abducted for experimentation. Did they think that cheesy scene would be a nice contrast to make it a little funny and less dark?

Whose mind did they pick to decide that the corn scene was the best way to lure them? Probably Tom's, but the original "Battlestar Galactica" and did better use of the same abduction trope. At least VOY didn't show a disco Studio 54 act in the way BSG had, but BSG's reveal was stronger.