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Perhaps my biggest problem is that sense of ARROGANCE, the all-knowing, cant-go-wrong presumptuous attitude evidenced by so many posters in this thread.

I haven't seen that at all in the thread. Instead I've seen a community of posters reaching out to help another poster and it's one of the reasons I love this board. I've not seen arrogance but rather compassion by sci-fi fans who are usually demonized as anti-social morons but in this thread are showing that that is just not the case.
 
Yes, you're only part of that great big friendly community so long as your views don't differ from the rest. How comforting.
 
Yes, you're only part of that great big friendly community so long as your views don't differ from the rest. How comforting.

No, you're acting like a child because people disagreed with you and you just kept repeating yourself again and again as if that should somehow make your point more worthwhile. It didn't.
 
Well, you know, that's the thing about friends. They try to give each other advice about their lives. In the end, the decision rests with the person getting the advice, but sometimes it helps to be reinforced in your decision or get an outside perspective on it.

Most of us here are decent people and just want to help one another. I certainly don't want to see KT or anyone else here suffer needlessly in a bad relationship, and if that's what I see happening, I won't be afraid to say so. I don't expect people to do what I say, just as I shouldn't be expected to do what anyone else says, but advice certainly has its place. Listening to any one person I would definitely say is a bad idea. Take the sum total of the input and figure out what to do yourself.

Drone, you act like she's retarded and can't decide anything for herself. There are certain people around here who do make threads about how their lives suck, we give them advice, and they utterly ignore it. Eventually, people get tired of putting forth the effort to help. But I have not seen anything like this from KT before, and I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I can't imagine what kind of friend you must be in real life. "Hey, don't lay your problems at my feet, I don't want anything to do with them! I'm not qualified!" I'm sorry, I just don't respect that position very much. What kind of friend is unwilling to speak up when they see something very wrong happening to someone they supposedly care about?

*Sigh* Some people just can't get past through my "Grain of Salt" comments and pretty much disregard everything else I've said. Did you at least skim through some of my posts? If not, can you please read my latest reply to Sidious? Please don't try to demonize me as the person looking down on KT; my only advice to her is to be cautious. I'm certainly not the one giving her unsolicited advice urging her which course of action to take.

I've read your replies. They all amount to the same thing. No one has advised her to be incautious, so I find it curious that you find yourself to be the lone voice in the wildnerness, begging her to listen to reason and ignore everyone else.

Unsolicited advice? You can't be serious. This is a message board. You don't start a thread venting about your life unless you want to hear what people think of it. Some people are going to give advice. Shocking, I know. If somebody wants to rant about things without getting feedback, I suggest they go start a blog and turn off all comments. Or keep a personal diary for that purpose. No need to post it online at all. :)

I don't think you're the "villain" of this thread or anything, I just find your attitude rather spineless and unhelpful.

One other thing: You don't know anything about me or my friends at all, and you can't begin to make false and inaccurate assumptions about me. Perhaps my biggest problem is that sense of ARROGANCE, the all-knowing, cant-go-wrong presumptuous attitude evidenced by so many posters in this thread.

Yes, of course, it's arrogant to want to help someone. Silly me. I should have known better. :rolleyes:
 
Drone, Drone, Drone, you're a nice guy and you're trying to be helpful, I get that... but please, just stop. Just. Stop.
 
KT, I suggest you take the guy into the desert with a rope and shovel.

I'm not sure what you'll actually do with the rope or shovel, but I'm sure you can find answers somewhere on the net.
 
Hands and feet would be bound, holes would be dug. You can probably take it from there. Often known as taking care of problems "Vegas-style".
 
Yes, you're only part of that great big friendly community so long as your views don't differ from the rest. How comforting.

No, you're acting like a child because people disagreed with you and you just kept repeating yourself again and again as if that should somehow make your point more worthwhile. It didn't.

:lol: I repeated myself (today) because people were getting on my case. A little clarification was necessary.
 
I don't suppose suggesting that the back-and-forth has become pointless and is best left dropped at this point would accomplish anything?

If it would, I have a suggestion...
 
Well, you know, that's the thing about friends. They try to give each other advice about their lives. In the end, the decision rests with the person getting the advice, but sometimes it helps to be reinforced in your decision or get an outside perspective on it.

Most of us here are decent people and just want to help one another. I certainly don't want to see KT or anyone else here suffer needlessly in a bad relationship, and if that's what I see happening, I won't be afraid to say so. I don't expect people to do what I say, just as I shouldn't be expected to do what anyone else says, but advice certainly has its place. Listening to any one person I would definitely say is a bad idea. Take the sum total of the input and figure out what to do yourself.

Drone, you act like she's retarded and can't decide anything for herself. There are certain people around here who do make threads about how their lives suck, we give them advice, and they utterly ignore it. Eventually, people get tired of putting forth the effort to help. But I have not seen anything like this from KT before, and I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I can't imagine what kind of friend you must be in real life. "Hey, don't lay your problems at my feet, I don't want anything to do with them! I'm not qualified!" I'm sorry, I just don't respect that position very much. What kind of friend is unwilling to speak up when they see something very wrong happening to someone they supposedly care about?

*Sigh* Some people just can't get past through my "Grain of Salt" comments and pretty much disregard everything else I've said. Did you at least skim through some of my posts? If not, can you please read my latest reply to Sidious? Please don't try to demonize me as the person looking down on KT; my only advice to her is to be cautious. I'm certainly not the one giving her unsolicited advice urging her which course of action to take.

I've read your replies. They all amount to the same thing. No one has advised her to be incautious, so I find it curious that you find yourself to be the lone voice in the wildnerness, begging her to listen to reason and ignore everyone else.

Unsolicited advice? You can't be serious. This is a message board. You don't start a thread venting about your life unless you want to hear what people think of it. Some people are going to give advice. Shocking, I know. If somebody wants to rant about things without getting feedback, I suggest they go start a blog and turn off all comments. Or keep a personal diary for that purpose. No need to post it online at all. :)

I don't think you're the "villain" of this thread or anything, I just find your attitude rather spineless and unhelpful.

One other thing: You don't know anything about me or my friends at all, and you can't begin to make false and inaccurate assumptions about me. Perhaps my biggest problem is that sense of ARROGANCE, the all-knowing, cant-go-wrong presumptuous attitude evidenced by so many posters in this thread.

Yes, of course, it's arrogant to want to help someone. Silly me. I should have known better. :rolleyes:

If I didn't get any of my points across, I would be more than willing to repeat them for you. :lol:

Now drop it already.
 
Well, you know, that's the thing about friends. They try to give each other advice about their lives. In the end, the decision rests with the person getting the advice, but sometimes it helps to be reinforced in your decision or get an outside perspective on it.

I feel the need to add that people just plain like giving advice. Especially unsolicited advice. I think it's just part of human nature for many people. Of course it's also human nature to avoid a lot of advice!

I can't imagine what kind of friend you must be in real life. "Hey, don't lay your problems at my feet, I don't want anything to do with them! I'm not qualified!" I'm sorry, I just don't respect that position very much. What kind of friend is unwilling to speak up when they see something very wrong happening to someone they supposedly care about?
Aww, I think he'd be a fine friend. Drone's a good guy, really. He's a kind person and was just trying to help out in his own way. I think some of it is misguided and a bit redundant. But I think I can kind of see where he's coming from? Problems like these aren't usually clear cut and sometimes people are just looking for someone to reaffirm their opinions, or they have their own agendas.

I don't think anyone posting in this thread has some sort of ulterior motives. I think we all see a BBSer that we care for on some level that's hurting, and everyone's trying to help in their own ways. And sometimes those ways clash. The main thing is that everyone here has good intentions. Surely we can agree on that much?
 
Well, you know, that's the thing about friends. They try to give each other advice about their lives. In the end, the decision rests with the person getting the advice, but sometimes it helps to be reinforced in your decision or get an outside perspective on it.

I feel the need to add that people just plain like giving advice. Especially unsolicited advice. I think it's just part of human nature for many people. Of course it's also human nature to avoid a lot of advice!

I can't imagine what kind of friend you must be in real life. "Hey, don't lay your problems at my feet, I don't want anything to do with them! I'm not qualified!" I'm sorry, I just don't respect that position very much. What kind of friend is unwilling to speak up when they see something very wrong happening to someone they supposedly care about?
Aww, I think he'd be a fine friend. Drone's a good guy, really. He's a kind person and was just trying to help out in his own way. I think some of it is misguided and a bit redundant. But I think I can kind of see where he's coming from? Problems like these aren't usually clear cut and sometimes people are just looking for someone to reaffirm their opinions, or they have their own agendas.

I don't think anyone posting in this thread has some sort of ulterior motives. I think we all see a BBSer that we care for on some level that's hurting, and everyone's trying to help in their own ways. And sometimes those ways clash. The main thing is that everyone here has good intentions. Surely we can agree on that much?

Kes, thank you for your fair and balanced observation and assessment of the exchanges that have been taking place all day. Let me be clear that I'm NOT stopping people from giving any advice to KT; I know I sounded redundant about the "grain of salt" comments, :o but I had already stopped until I was compelled to explain my position a few times. And when I did, people were attacking me (for lack of a better word) for stating my opinion? :wtf:

This whole thread is not about me or about anyone else; it's about KT and I would like to hear an update on her situation.
 
Drone, I think it's time for you to take a break from the thread. You've made your point repeatedly and now it's just become a back and forth argument with several people. If all you're waiting for is a status update from KT you can do that without responding to the other posters.

I'm not saying you or anyone else did anything wrong, just trying to diffuse the situation. Thanks.

And if everyone else would drop this little side discussion and get back to addressing KT's posts, that would be appreciated.
 
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Relationships are complex but I want to second J's sentiments, you seem like a nice, energetic, and positive person who deserves better. From your comments, this guy sounds like an underachiever (they really get on my nerves!) with a huge sense of entitlement (usually goes together). I personally would not be able to live with a peson like that. If that's accurate, sad to say that it's not too likely that he'll change.

The Craig's list thing should've be an instant "you're done" situation, or at least a severe probation, by itself. That's inexcusable.

Mr Awe
 
Posted by Australis:

And if all else fails, come over to TNZ, and we'll set up the Temple of K'Tights, where you'll have the worship you deserve! :D

Yes, KT. Why don't you leave your partner now (without trying to work out any of the problems first) and let a bunch of horny on-line strangers take his place? :vulcan:

Sorry, but at this point, you're becoming tiresome. You've made your point, move along.

Mr Awe
 
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