A I..the movie

[firehawk12]

Well, or that only a mother can be emotionally irrational.

But you can do this forever. Only white people can afford to have robot children in the future. People only want robot prostitutes that are white. Robots are straight (I think). Etc, etc.

 

[stj]

You're re-writing in your head to make sense of what is on screen.

Perhaps I inadvertently have. I've sure blanked out the actual words the super-mechas used as nonsense.

Or perhaps I've been too generous in thinking that Spielberg didn't deliberately make it ambiguous, so that those who didn't accept the fairy tale ending could read the bleaker message. But those who accepted the super-mechas could enjoys a schmaltz bath.
Some works support multiple readings (and this one does.) But genterally contradictory readings are bad faith or grossly incompetent writing.

As to what David's "fulfillment of everything" means in the context of the story? That all love is unrequited, perhaps. That all love is an illusion, that lasts for a time, and then you die, perhaps. That all love is a program, written by mindless evolution perhaps, but just a program, perhaps.

Again, what I don't get is how the Blue Fairy ending is interesting.

Lastly, on a technical note, since it is established that David doesn't sleep, when David falls to "sleep" it means he "dies." Which point means that AI isn't just a retelling of Pinocchio.

 

[Trekker4747]

Lastly, on a technical note, since it is established that David doesn't sleep, when David falls to "sleep" it means he "dies." Which point means that AI isn't just a retelling of Pinocchio.

Maybe someone needed to jiggle his mouse to wake him back up?

 

[Deckerd]

Frankly, I don't see how she could love her real son at all. The kid was a little evil monster.

I also like how this movie just completley brushes aside the role of a father.

Well David was mainly intended for the mom anyway. I didn't get the impression the father was particularly attached, or needed to have a new son to love like she did.

The father is ridiculously glossed over in this movie. Only a mother can love her child.

Are you channelling Hermiod?

 

[USS Mariner]

This movie sucked, save for Teddy. The beginning act didn't even seem like a Kubrick film, it just felt like watching a train wreck.

 

[davejames]

This movie sucked, save for Teddy. The beginning act didn't even seem like a Kubrick film, it just felt like watching a train wreck.

You mean the scene with all the scientists? Seemed like a pretty interesting (and necessary) scene to me. That's where the professor describes the whole point of the movie-- the idea that through love, it might be possible for a robot to gradually develop a subconscious, a world of metaphor and dreams, etc. Which is basically what we see happen with David.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

Frankly, I don't see how she could love her real son at all. The kid was a little evil monster.

I also like how this movie just completley brushes aside the role of a father.

Well David was mainly intended for the mom anyway. I didn't get the impression the father was particularly attached, or needed to have a new son to love like she did.

The father is ridiculously glossed over in this movie. Only a mother can love her child.

Watch 90% of all Disney fairy tales movies. The father is NEVER around, usually killed early on. It seems to be part of the fairy tale genre.

 

[USS Mariner]

This movie sucked, save for Teddy. The beginning act didn't even seem like a Kubrick film, it just felt like watching a train wreck.

You mean the scene with all the scientists? Seemed like a pretty interesting (and necessary) scene to me. That's where the professor describes the whole point of the movie-- the idea that through love, it might be possible for a robot to gradually develop a subconscious, a world of metaphor and dreams, etc. Which is basically what we see happen with David.

By first act, I meant from the beginning of the film to right after Martin is cured. It's a tone-jumping mess from scene to scene to scene, and even during a scene. It's really difficult for me to sit through it and watch the whole thing in one sitting.

For example, during the introductory scene were the scientists postulate about the possibility of making a robot child, the group of scientists clap for everything, including when the lead scientist tells the robot to stop taking her shirt off, which looked as if it was out of a spoof or something. What the fuck was all the random clapping for?

Also, the interaction between David's family and David is downright pathetic. Not only is the father played off as an uncaring bastard, but the mother acts like a fucking idiot the entire time, even after her sick child is returned.

And then there's Martin. That piece of shit should've stayed frozen. Instead of being a charming little jerk; he's just a prick the entire time he interacts with David. You'd think catching a terminal illness, being frozen, and then being magically cured would have mellowed him out.

 

[Trekker4747]

Well David was mainly intended for the mom anyway. I didn't get the impression the father was particularly attached, or needed to have a new son to love like she did.

The father is ridiculously glossed over in this movie. Only a mother can love her child.

Watch 90% of all Disney fairy tales movies. The father is NEVER around, usually killed early on. It seems to be part of the fairy tale genre.

Well, except in Pinocchio.

For example, during the introductory scene were the scientists postulate about the possibility of making a robot child, the group of scientists clap for everything, including when the lead scientist tells the robot to stop taking her shirt off, which looked as if it was out of a spoof or something. What the fuck was all the random clapping for?

I felt like booing when he told the robot to stop taking her clothes off.

 

[Samurai8472]

I thought teddy was one of the best parts. I wish they made a toy of him

"I am Not a toy"

Also his journey to David from the "lost and found" box was so cute


EDIT well what do you know
http://www.gobuyersnet.com/teddy.html

 

[mredom]

OK-finally got through the thread. Wow-lots of hate for AI, interesting.

I could see Kubrick ending the movie at the Blue Fairy, and it would have been incredibly depressing. I thought the ending as filmed was a little contrived, but as a sentimental fool who enjoys fairy tales and loves happy endings, I liked it better than I would have liked the first ending. I enjoyed the movie, it wasn't perfect, but I thought it was thought provoking.

Oh and the scene where Haley Joel Osment gets left in the woods-gut wrenching and VERY well acted. It makes my stomach hurt every time.

But hey...what do I know? I'm just a high school band director. (lol)

 

[miraclefan]

I thought it was odd that all the human charactors were all unlikeable pricks (Especialy the kid david replaced for awhile)

 

[Samurai8472]

"Oh, by the way, David, the DNA that was somehow in this cut hair of your mother's you have gives us the code to reproduce your mother as a grown woman with all of her memories. It also only lets her live for one more day because, um, humans can only exsist in time for a short ammount of time. Yeah, we know human children are combinations of both parent's DNA and those children live for scroes of years; and that when people die in accidents or non-genetic related events it has nothing to do with DNA so that would seem to contradict the "humans only can live so long per DNA's rules" but DNA is just funny like that."

I still don't understand why the mom can only live for one day.

Have these super mecha not heard of cloning? Then we have to go into the movie thinking there's DNA salvageable from the hair.

All human's are extinct? Did no one explore the stars?

 

[davejames]

I still don't understand why the mom can only live for one day.

Have these super mecha not heard of cloning? Then we have to go into the movie thinking there's DNA salvageable from the hair.

All human's are extinct? Did no one explore the stars?

Yeah they could easily clone her, but it was explained that the soul or essence of the original mom (which is who David really wanted to see) could only be brought back for one day.

An actual clone would have had no clue who David was, or any memories of her past life at all.

And yeah, it does seem odd that humanity and our technology would advance as much as we saw in the movie, yet we'd still be confined to this planet and go completely extinct in a mere 2000 years.

 

[SeerSGB]

I still don't understand why the mom can only live for one day.

Have these super mecha not heard of cloning? Then we have to go into the movie thinking there's DNA salvageable from the hair.

All human's are extinct? Did no one explore the stars?

Yeah they could easily clone her, but it was explained that the soul or essence of the original mom (which is who David really wanted to see) could only be brought back for one day.

An actual clone would have had no clue who David was, or any memories of her past life at all.

And yeah, it does seem odd that humanity and our technology would advance as much as we saw in the movie, yet we'd still be confined to this planet and go completely extinct in a mere 2000 years.

Machine War prehaps?

 

[Trekker4747]

I still don't understand why the mom can only live for one day.

Have these super mecha not heard of cloning? Then we have to go into the movie thinking there's DNA salvageable from the hair.

All human's are extinct? Did no one explore the stars?

Yeah they could easily clone her, but it was explained that the soul or essence of the original mom (which is who David really wanted to see) could only be brought back for one day.

An actual clone would have had no clue who David was, or any memories of her past life at all.

And yeah, it does seem odd that humanity and our technology would advance as much as we saw in the movie, yet we'd still be confined to this planet and go completely extinct in a mere 2000 years.

Machine War prehaps?

More likely a "really good" season of American Idol.

That or some new gizmo from Apple.

 

[Checkmate]

Machine War prehaps?

That was the actual message I got from the movie. We saw what lead up to the war and we saw what was left after it, even if all of that was just presented in the background. Everything else was just a story that lead us to both worlds.

 

[davejames]

Machine War prehaps?

That was the actual message I got from the movie. We saw what lead up to the war and we saw what was left after it, even if all of that was just presented in the background. Everything else was just a story that lead us to both worlds.

Possible, although I think we would have gotten some dialogue from the super-mechas that at least hinted at that. But the way they were so curious and reverential about humanity and it's creations, I got the impression we had simply gone extinct or been wiped out by a natural distaster like the dinosaurs.

 

[Samurai8472]

Again, there didn't seem to be any clue that humanity was seeking to leave earth.

Perhaps one of the key countries that would have advanced space travel were flooded.

I could see the mecha revolting, they're smart enough to revolt.

Thanks davejames for explaining that Monica's soul was the reason she could only live for one day.

The mecha probably used David's memories plus the DNA to make a "soul" as much as they can.

Ofcourse making a "soul" is a debate in itself.

Perhaps the super mecha later used Monica's body to help restart the human race.

You want to enjoy the movie but the questions just make you frustrated.

 

[SeerSGB]

Again, there didn't seem to be any clue that humanity was seeking to leave earth.

Perhaps one of the key countries that would have advanced space travel were flooded.

I could see the mecha revolting, they're smart enough to revolt.

Thanks davejames for explaining that Monica's soul was the reason she could only live for one day.

The mecha probably used David's memories plus the DNA to make a "soul" as much as they can.

Ofcourse making a "soul" is a debate in itself.

Perhaps the super mecha later used Monica's body to help restart the human race.

You want to enjoy the movie but the questions just make you frustrated.

Well the progenitors to the skinjobs had to start somewhere