*sigh* Look, Nu-Trek, Nu-Verse. no point arguing about the Old Verse because it doesn't apply anymore.
Period.
now...go back to arguing the ships size
Period.
now...go back to arguing the ships size
Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)
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trevanian
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Well, that exchange had more to do with who makes the shows than what 'verse they inhabit. By virtue (or vice) of having done this kind of restart, Abrams does have license.
The only thing that vaguely annoys me about the 718-meter Enterprise is that the Klingon battle cruiser would look silly next to it. I really love those old Klingon ships and I was really happy to see them virtually unchanged in the Kobayashi Maru scene (and hopefully the deleted Nero/Klingon scenes on the DVD – hopefully they did all the fx before dropping them from the film).
I find it amusing that nobody has complained about the size of the sets (ppl have complained about the look of the bridge and brewery, but not the size), which are bigger than every Trek ever, yet everyone freaks that it’s bigger on the outside too. It’s this weird Trekkie thing – as long as the external size comparison charts look “ok”, no-one gives a shit that the bridge is enormous, there’s an entire brewery down below and the hanger has racks of huge shuttles (the shuttles in fact being the reason for the scale-up in the first place). All these things are bigger than in any incarnation of Trek, even Next Gen and the later movies on the Ent-E. Isn’t it common sense that the outside be bigger too?
If anyone says “the engines would snap off” I point to my old Ertl Star Trek V Enterprise-A model kit, whose engines snapped off all the time - and that was prime universe!. Warp speed! *Snap!*
I find it amusing that nobody has complained about the size of the sets (ppl have complained about the look of the bridge and brewery, but not the size), which are bigger than every Trek ever, yet everyone freaks that it’s bigger on the outside too. It’s this weird Trekkie thing – as long as the external size comparison charts look “ok”, no-one gives a shit that the bridge is enormous, there’s an entire brewery down below and the hanger has racks of huge shuttles (the shuttles in fact being the reason for the scale-up in the first place). All these things are bigger than in any incarnation of Trek, even Next Gen and the later movies on the Ent-E. Isn’t it common sense that the outside be bigger too?
If anyone says “the engines would snap off” I point to my old Ertl Star Trek V Enterprise-A model kit, whose engines snapped off all the time - and that was prime universe!. Warp speed! *Snap!*
Oh, snap!
(Always wondered where that piece of slang came from. Turns out, da boyz in da hood are avid Trek modellers.)
(Always wondered where that piece of slang came from. Turns out, da boyz in da hood are avid Trek modellers.)
I actually rather liked the bridge
It really didn't seem all that much bigger. Bigger yes, but not insanely huge.
Oh, there have been plenty of complaints about the bridge size, beginning all the way back in October when all we had to look at were two still photos, and continuing on through the movie's general release. Engineering/brewery wasn't seen at all until much later (roughly a month before release, wasn't it?) and complaints about the size were immediate and prolonged (and still ongoing, in fact.) I suspect you were simply looking elsewhere at the time.
Change makes some of us feel a little squirmy, at any rate, and to be fair, some of the "size of engineering" complaints had to do with whether it would even fit inside the secondary hull.
Well... NOBODY ever questions whether the lowest level in the Jupiter 2 (the "power core") could have fit inside IT!!!
^ Well I did, but I was too young to notice at a time when anyone still gave a damn.
Professor Robinson was an expert in cramming large things into small spaces below.
I wouldn't be too sure about that.Well... NOBODY ever questions whether the lowest level in the Jupiter 2 (the "power core") could have fit inside IT!!!
ST-One
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Sorry, but the Kelvin's hangar is the same size in each shot we see it (from the inside and outside).
Nope - There is a quick shot of a shuttle leaving the hangar from the inside, and it's showing a substantial perpendicular wall to the left of the hangar door opening, that when looking from the outside there is just no room for that structure.
It just looks like in this movie they were just going for an aesthetic, while not particularly concerned with scale/measurement.
Even with the 2500ft scale ship, there doesn't appear to be enough room for the corridors we saw on the starboard side of the Enterprise Bridge.
trevanian
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I finally saw a few minutes of the movie yesterday (on youtube) and it was the KELVIN stuff. Quality wasn't great, but I think I saw what you're referencing; it didn't seem to jive. Does anybody have screengrabs of these bits, or is posting that all still verboten?
I just rewatched the scene in question. While it may be a bit of a stretch, there is enough room there for that wall to be there with the shape of the hull as it is. The wall is significantly forward of the shuttle bay doors, they are not right next to each other. I think the perspective makes things seem skewed.
ST-One
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I don't see it.
I hear Major West never had that problem with Judy.
Constant issue with Smith and William, though.
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