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Aventine

All this preoccupation with weapons. I'm more interested in what kind of sensor systems the Vesta class has, the technical specs of its propulsion systems, things like that.

I read somewhere that the Aventine has chroniton sensors but I think I missed that in the actual novel.

It has an experimental sensor device associated with the slipstream propulsion system. It allows the ship to take sensor readings from several seconds into the future, allowing it to navigate the slipstream vortex-tunnel-I forget the correct term more easily.
 
It has an experimental sensor device associated with the slipstream propulsion system. It allows the ship to take sensor readings from several seconds into the future, allowing it to navigate the slipstream vortex-tunnel-I forget the correct term more easily.

Is it readings several seconds into the future or several kilometers/light-years ahead?

Can the device actually see into the future?
 
It has an experimental sensor device associated with the slipstream propulsion system. It allows the ship to take sensor readings from several seconds into the future, allowing it to navigate the slipstream vortex-tunnel-I forget the correct term more easily.

Is it readings several seconds into the future or several kilometers/light-years ahead?

Can the device actually see into the future?

It's several seconds into the future, yes. That's what "Destiny" said. It can take readings several seconds before the phenomena in question happen, giving the ship several seconds further to make necessary changes and alter whatever needs altering to ensure the safest and most efficient use of the slipstream. :)
 
It has an experimental sensor device associated with the slipstream propulsion system. It allows the ship to take sensor readings from several seconds into the future, allowing it to navigate the slipstream vortex-tunnel-I forget the correct term more easily.

Is it readings several seconds into the future or several kilometers/light-years ahead?

Can the device actually see into the future?

It's several seconds into the future, yes. That's what "Destiny" said. It can take readings several seconds before the phenomena in question happen, giving the ship several seconds further to make necessary changes and alter whatever needs altering to ensure the safest and most efficient use of the slipstream. :)

Question: So if it can detect an event 10 seconds ahead of time, and this event can be prevented by some technology present on the Aventine, technically they can prevent the event from happening even though their sensor device says it will happen? But in that case, the sensor device should REALLY say there is no event right? Paradox much...or is there a simple explanation like jumping between parallel universes and such?
 
Is it readings several seconds into the future or several kilometers/light-years ahead?

Can the device actually see into the future?

It's several seconds into the future, yes. That's what "Destiny" said. It can take readings several seconds before the phenomena in question happen, giving the ship several seconds further to make necessary changes and alter whatever needs altering to ensure the safest and most efficient use of the slipstream. :)

Question: So if it can detect an event 10 seconds ahead of time, and this event can be prevented by some technology present on the Aventine, technically they can prevent the event from happening even though their sensor device says it will happen? But in that case, the sensor device should REALLY say there is no event right? Paradox much...or is there a simple explanation?

Oh no...time paradox...

Ask David Mack :). I think 10 seconds is pushing it, though. The impression I got was that it was only about 2 or 3 seconds, just enough for a slight edge but not enough to truly plan for upcoming conditions in advance.
 
It's several seconds into the future, yes. That's what "Destiny" said. It can take readings several seconds before the phenomena in question happen, giving the ship several seconds further to make necessary changes and alter whatever needs altering to ensure the safest and most efficient use of the slipstream. :)

Question: So if it can detect an event 10 seconds ahead of time, and this event can be prevented by some technology present on the Aventine, technically they can prevent the event from happening even though their sensor device says it will happen? But in that case, the sensor device should REALLY say there is no event right? Paradox much...or is there a simple explanation?

Oh no...time paradox...

Ask David Mack :). I think 10 seconds is pushing it, though. The impression I got was that it was only about 2 or 3 seconds, just enough for a slight edge but not enough to truly plan for upcoming conditions in advance.

Yeah guess I will. Even if its 1-2 seconds, they could pre-program the Aventine's computers to carry out commands in case certain events (that they know how to handle) happen. Intriguing.
 
Question: So if it can detect an event 10 seconds ahead of time, and this event can be prevented by some technology present on the Aventine, technically they can prevent the event from happening even though their sensor device says it will happen? But in that case, the sensor device should REALLY say there is no event right? Paradox much...or is there a simple explanation like jumping between parallel universes and such?

I think you might be overestimating the use of the sensors. They're calibrated to the integrity of the slipstream tunnel and will automatically compensate for changes about to occur, yes, but I have a hard time seeing how such narrow precognition could anticipate other forms of data, let alone react to it.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Question: So if it can detect an event 10 seconds ahead of time, and this event can be prevented by some technology present on the Aventine, technically they can prevent the event from happening even though their sensor device says it will happen? But in that case, the sensor device should REALLY say there is no event right? Paradox much...or is there a simple explanation like jumping between parallel universes and such?

I think you might be overestimating the use of the sensors. They're calibrated to the integrity of the slipstream tunnel and will automatically compensate for changes about to occur, yes, but I have a hard time seeing how such narrow precognition could anticipate other forms of data, let alone react to it.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

Perhaps they could use more of the same sensors calibrated to watch for other forms of data and react to them?

And it is not inconceivable that this bit of sensor technology can be stretched and upgraded still further to allow for the possibility of witnessing future events.

I'm just curious and intrigued as to how (or if) the authors would justify it.
 
I read somewhere that the Aventine has chroniton sensors but I think I missed that in the actual novel

:wtf: So...the sensors are related to the Defiant cloaking device?

I know--I know. (Bloody technobabble...as if trilithium wasn't bad enough....)


Oh, BTW...the sensors can read several seconds into the FUTURE?

Don't give a rat's rear end about paradoxes--that's just SWEEEEEEEEEEEET!!! :drool:
 
She does look rather splendid, not too keen on the aztecing (if that's the right term) but I'll just put that down to it being a pencilled effect image.
 
Wow, that is one awesome looking ship. Each time I see her she just looks better and better.
 
I came in here looking for the latest picture of the ship and read back too far. Forgive me for addressing an old, maybe off-topic discussion, but I want to point out that there's nothing antithetical about an armed utopia. The ability to defend oneself in anyway necessary is not a bad thing. That one may have to on the other hand...send your letters to Heaven, attn: God.

I'm sure the Federation has developed ways of solving its problems without wasteful, damaging and often cruel and stupid armed conflict. Definitely within its borders and usually outside as well.

But the Federation can be no more omniscient than it can be omnipotent. If others choose to attack them, no amount of reasoning, compassion, or love is going to stop a disruptor beam in mid air. And it would be wrong...un-utopian, to allow themselves to be murdered just as it would be for them to be the ones murdering others.
 
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