Trek's chances at best picture just increased?
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While I understand the desire to keep politics out of the forums, and think the phrase "liberal nutjobs" may have crossed the line, I think it's fair in a thread about Trek's Oscar chances to point out the fact that the Academy does in fact like to nominate films that have a liberal political message. Films that either have conservative messages, or no message at all, are less likely to be nominated.
Right, Trek wining best picture. NEVER HAPPEN!
Then surely, there must be a way to say so without it coming off as having either a political agenda to advance or an intent to troll?
If something with a political aspect does touch upon the movie or upon the story told by the movie, then I have no problem with it being discussed here as such, but I have been asking for a long time that U.S. partisan politics in particular be kept to forums oriented to such topics (i.e., TNZ.) Finger-pointing at "liberal nutjobs" (or at any other similarly-charged political epithet/subgroup) falls well outside the purview of this forum and I would like it to stay outside; we've got enough divisive issues here already, what with canon/continuity, alternate timelines, ship length, Captain April and tubes in Engineering, without party politics getting into the mix, too.
while i dont think it will win i wouldnt be suprised if it gets nominated.
really depends on what comes out in december.
but remember star wars did get nominated.
and star trek got some favorable reviews from some of the influential critics.
so maybe get into some pratice..
Even with 10 nominees, I don't think that Star Trek will be nominated. Summer blockbusters just don't seem to be what the academy looks at for "Best Picture". It would be nice to see a nomination, but after the big academy pictures and the top artsy indy flicks that most people have never heard of make the list, there probably won't be much room for Trek.
I just want all the actors to be invited to the Awards event, so I can watch them walk down the red carpet in their best suits and gowns.
And they all must give a Vulcan salute as they walk...
You missed E.T.'s Best Picture nomination from 1982.
Could say the same thing about why you think it shouldn't.
But it's that exactly WHY the Academy has decided to have ten nominations instead of just five? To open up the possible field of contenders to movies more like Dark Night than The Piano?
That's not an argument for or against Trek getting a nomination or an award, just an observation.
it's sci fi. that's the biggest reason.
yep. and Gandhi won that one. 11 Oscars.
look, if that's the reason, I'm all for it. if Trek gets nominated, I'll sit through all seventeen hours of the frickin' show!
My basic argument, which some here may not like, is not that Trek won't get nominated because the Academy is too elitist and anti-SF -- which they are -- but that it doesn't deserve to get nominated. Trek is just not Oscar material. It's entertaining and it's made alot of money, but is it any particularly great work of art? Not hardly.
Look upthread for the Rotten Tomatoes comparison with Slumdog Millionaire; that's what your opponents' basic argument is. Star Trek with 92% Fresh could expect to get a nomination.
Yeah, a nomination in and of itself isn't an indicator of winning anyways. Lots of TV shows get nominations for Emmys simply to pad out the ballot.
Oh, I understand, but just because the critics represented at Rotten Tomatoes like the film doesn't necessarily mean they think it's Oscar-worthy and, even if they do, I don't have to agree. Heck, there are many films that have actually won the Best Picture Oscar that I don't think were Oscar-worthy. *shrug*
Don't get me wrong. I don't mean any of this as a criticism of the current film. I think it's a great movie. I loved it. I'm anxiously awaiting the sequel. But I just think that an Oscar for Best Picture should denote something more than a good summer blockbuster. I think it should be something that rises above the typical film and distinguishes itself in some artistic way. In the sci-fi genre, 2001: A Space Odyssey did that. So did Alien.
Star Trek did not. It is more akin to Aliens in my mind. An excellently enjoyable film. But nothing exceptional in the annals of filmmaking. A People's Choice Award? Sure. But an Oscar? No.
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