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Something I've been trying to determine

I can say that I managed to count 20 shuttles in the closing shot (the Narada reeling from the Kelving kamikaze, and the sun dominating the background) before the opening titles. This doesn't include at least one shuttle that was flying next to the shuttle Mrs. Kirk was in that got shot down, the one that Robau was on to go to the Narada, any others that may of already made a fair bit of distance already and thus not visible in the last shot, or any others that got shot down.
 
I don't think any of the shuttles were destroyed.
George Kirk to my recollection managed to destroy all of the missiles heading for the shuttles while the Kelvin took most of the pounding.

As for the shuttle count ... since they are larger, it would be possible to store about 40 people in each if they squeeze in.
Their lives were at stake, so you'd be surprised to which lengths people will go to so save themselves.
Cramming into one smaller place is the least of their worries and people who spend their lives in space (civilians as well) would receive some basics in terms of survival.
 
I don't think any of the shuttles were destroyed.
George Kirk to my recollection managed to destroy all of the missiles heading for the shuttles while the Kelvin took most of the pounding.

As Winona's shuttle leaves the Kelvin [perspective=looking at the front of the shuttle, with the Kevlin's secondary hull the main background piece), you see another one flying alongside that does get destroyed. You do however see a shot of a missile almost hitting her's as well, but a phaser beam from the Kelving does take out that missile.

[quote]As for the shuttle count ... since they are larger, it would be possible to store about 40 people in each if they squeeze in.
Their lives were at stake, so you'd be surprised to which lengths people will go to so save themselves.
Cramming into one smaller place is the least of their worries and people who spend their lives in space (civilians as well) would receive some basics in terms of survival.[/QUOTE]

It's been agreed previously that it would be possible, especially when they're roughly comparable in internal volume to single decker buses that can carry that many people, if not more.
 
That final shot of the shuttles moving away from the damaged Narada, with the massive sun in the background, was to put it mildly... fucking stunning.
 
The shuttle-escape scene is made even more stunning by the introduction of the universally adored "Enterprising Young Men" theme in conjunction with it.

For some reason, the shuttles always look and sound like little mice scampering away to me, while George has disabled the huge, black cat.
 
I think its a fair assumption that many died in the initial attack, probably bringing the Evac number into the 500-600 people range.

That way, the amount of shuttles seen leaving the Kelvin makes a bit more sense.
Pike plainly said George saved 800 lives -- i.e., not dead. Eight hundred survivors.
 
I think its a fair assumption that many died in the initial attack, probably bringing the Evac number into the 500-600 people range.

That way, the amount of shuttles seen leaving the Kelvin makes a bit more sense.
Pike plainly said George saved 800 lives -- i.e., not dead. Eight hundred survivors.

Exactly (though of course he was probably giving a rough,round number as all of us do at times. The survivors could be 774 or 813 etc etc).
Which means that if we logically assume that quite a few people died during the attack,Kelvin's normal crew could be 900 or more.

*Robau is not to be counted as a loss. He ascended in a higher plane of existence.
 
*Robau is not to be counted as a loss. He ascended in a higher plane of existence.
Indeed. I knew what you meant, of course.

Now, the reason there were so many personnel aboard the Kelvin is definitely open to interpretation. I've always liked the colonization theory and the research facility personnel in transit theory.
 
*Robau is not to be counted as a loss. He ascended in a higher plane of existence.
Indeed. I knew what you meant, of course.

Now, the reason there were so many personnel aboard the Kelvin is definitely open to interpretation. I've always liked the colonization theory and the research facility personnel in transit theory.


It seemed like a lot of people be on a starship. Especially, considering that the Ent D had over 1,000 on it. I guess I figured that at that point in Star Fleet history that the number on board a star ship would be much lower. I like the colonization idea, though.

Also, the reference to the "47" klingon ships that were destroyed also seems like a big number. Aside from the in joke of 47, it just seems like 47 Klingon ships seems a bit excessive. I think the writers could have made a point with 20 ships. But, those guys are the screenwriters!
 
Also, maybe back then there weren't so many ships as later, and they wound up carrying more personnel to and from places.
 
I don't think any of the shuttles were destroyed.
George Kirk to my recollection managed to destroy all of the missiles heading for the shuttles while the Kelvin took most of the pounding.

As Winona's shuttle leaves the Kelvin [perspective=looking at the front of the shuttle, with the Kevlin's secondary hull the main background piece), you see another one flying alongside that does get destroyed. You do however see a shot of a missile almost hitting her's as well, but a phaser beam from the Kelving does take out that missile.[/QUOTE]
I don't know. My impression was that the Kelvin's phasers nailed that missile, too.

As to the number of shuttles, I counted 19 when I freeze-framed that shot a little while ago. Add the one that Robau took over to the Narada and that gives us a grand total of 20. Not enough for 800 people any way you slice it, but the ship probably had lifeboats, too.
 
...As to the number of shuttles, I counted 19 when I freeze-framed that shot a little while ago...

Of course, as we all know you work in a theater and have access to the film and can view it whenever and however you like. ;)
 
There were probably a lot of other shuttles not shown.

That's what I figured too, unless they all waited til as late as possible to depart.

It makes sense that they would need to launch in waves, rather than all together to get manuvring room. And it would take time to get Mrs Kirk to the shuttle so it seems reasonable that a first wave had already left before she does.
 
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