Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)

[Mangledduk]

There's a Star Trek article in Cinefex #118, with this quote from ILM Art Director Alex Jaeger

The reconfigured ship was a larger vessel than previous manifestations-- approximately 1,200-feet-long compared to the 947-foot ship of the original series. Once we got the ship built and started putting it in environments it felt too small. The shuttle bay gave us a clear relative scale -- shuttles initially appeared much bigger than we had imagined -- so we bumped up the Enterprise scale, which gave her a grander feel and allowed us to include more detail.

BINGO! Finally some conformation about the upscale/super-size. This also seems to confirm the ship may have still been at 1,200ft when the efx were done for the construction sequence.

Now I wonder if this may be leaving a loophole for the ship to be scaled back down.

Hmmm....interesting...great quote though. In my mind this is how big the ship is. Its really the way it was intended to be which is evidenced by the external appearance of the new E.

 

[miraclefan]

There's a Star Trek article in Cinefex #118, with this quote from ILM Art Director Alex Jaeger

The reconfigured ship was a larger vessel than previous manifestations-- approximately 1,200-feet-long compared to the 947-foot ship of the original series. Once we got the ship built and started putting it in environments it felt too small. The shuttle bay gave us a clear relative scale -- shuttles initially appeared much bigger than we had imagined -- so we bumped up the Enterprise scale, which gave her a grander feel and allowed us to include more detail.

BINGO! Finally some conformation about the upscale/super-size. This also seems to confirm the ship may have still been at 1,200ft when the efx were done for the construction sequence.

Now I wonder if this may be leaving a loophole for the ship to be scaled back down.

#%$!^&^%#$ I try to get out, BUT THEY KEEP PULING ME BACK IN! Now it's too late to pull the plug on this thread! we had are chance and blew it! IT'S ALIVE!!!! IT'S ALIVE!!!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

 

[dougkeenan]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

He did?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

He did?

Absolutely.

 

[dougkeenan]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

He did?

Absolutely.

Do you recall in what part of the episode he said so?

 

[Trevacious]

In the next film, then, will they be revisiting Deck 78?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

He did?

Absolutely.

Do you recall in what part of the episode he said so?

Yeah, he was talking to Kirk.

 

[dougkeenan]

Absolutely.

Do you recall in what part of the episode he said so?

Yeah, he was talking to Kirk.

No exact quote? That hard drive slowing down a bit?

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

Well, technically, Enterprise took place before TOS. So you could say TOS frelled up on Klingon first contact; that McCoy got it wrong.

 

[miraclefan]

Absolutely.

Do you recall in what part of the episode he said so?

Yeah, he was talking to Kirk.

Neads me a quote!

 

[SonicRanger]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

Well, whoever wrote TNG's "First Contact" and mentioned the "centuries ago disastrous first contact" with Klingons must be pissed.

 

[dougkeenan]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

Well, technically, Enterprise took place before TOS. So you could say TOS frelled up on Klingon first contact; that McCoy got it wrong.

Or McCoy said no such thing in that episode or any other. In that case Enterprise and TOS are not in conflict.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

Well, whoever wrote TNG's "First Contact" and mentioned the "disastrous first contact" with Klingons must be pissed.

Who cares what some fucking hack thought? I'm right, and I say I'm wrong!

Everybody knows that McCoy said that in "Day Of The Dove." If you don't remember it, it's because you're not really a serious TOS fan.

 

[SonicRanger]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

Well, whoever wrote TNG's "First Contact" and mentioned the "disastrous first contact" with Klingons must be pissed.

Who cares what some fucking hack thought? I'm right, and I say I'm wrong!

Everybody knows that McCoy said that in "Day Of The Dove." If you don't remember it, it's because you're not really a serious TOS fan.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Doesn't anyone care that Enterprise fucked up on Klingon first contact?

McCoy said in "Day Of The Dove" that the Federation had only first encountered the Klingons about a year-and-a-half before "Errand Of Mercy."

Well, technically, Enterprise took place before TOS. So you could say TOS frelled up on Klingon first contact; that McCoy got it wrong.

Or McCoy said no such thing in that episode or any other. In that case Enterprise and TOS are not in conflict.

I've solved it!

What if the latest episode or movie is the only canon source and the flag'll get passed when there's a new one. That way, there are nearly no inconsistencies at all! Problem solved!

 

[EJD1984]

With the conformation from ILM about the up-sizing, could this be why there doesn't seem to be a scale on the packaging for the model - since it could be changed in the next movie.

 

[Silversmok3]

With the conformation from ILM about the up-sizing, could this be why there doesn't seem to be a scale on the packaging for the model - since it could be changed in the next movie.

Sigh.

This thread will not DIE......

 

[buzzknox]

With the conformation from ILM about the up-sizing, could this be why there doesn't seem to be a scale on the packaging for the model - since it could be changed in the next movie.

Sigh.

This thread will not DIE......

It'll die when the next thing to obsess over comes along, such as how many tubes the nuEnt has in its torpedo bay, whether the torpedoes are a return to the old energy weapon or the TWOK style casing, whether they should be called "torpedoes" at all since that term has a specific meaning these days and the way its depicted in Trek doesn't fit, whether Uhuru said "oral" or "aural" etc.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

whether Uhuru said "oral" or "aural" etc.

She said "Earl" as in "extraordinary Earl sensitivity."

"Earl" is Spock's nickname for his "little helmsman."